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Fri Oct-28-11 08:22 PM
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Poll question: What's more important? |
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Fri Oct-28-11 08:30 PM
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1. Without 270, the 99% get screwed. |
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If the 99% have any brains, they'll vote for Obama.
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Fri Oct-28-11 10:03 PM
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3. If the 270 does not advance the 99% it's worthless. |
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Fri Oct-28-11 10:53 PM
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4. Well then I guess it's a chicken and the egg sort of situation isn't it? |
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That would also mean that anybody trying to force a wedge between the 270, and the 99%, is a tool of the 1%.
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Sat Oct-29-11 12:20 AM
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5. If you think a wedge is needed to separate the 270 from |
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the 99% then you're a tool of the 1%.
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Fri Oct-28-11 08:31 PM
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2. The 270 are already bought and paid for, either way. I'll put |
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my money and energy on the 99%. That's where the real change will have to come from.
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Sat Oct-29-11 02:53 PM
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6. The power structure isn't going to be shifted to the 99% by a presidential election |
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I suggested on another thread, that if Al Gore had been inaugurated in 2001, it's entirely possible that people would still be occupying Wall Street. The guy wasn't exactly a class warrior, other than for 5 minutes at the convention in 2000. And even if he were, it's very hard to shift power like that by the will of a President. A movement is the kind of thing you need for that shift.
However, if Gore had been inaugurated, we also would've never invaded Iraq, and he likely would've used 9/11 as a means to make the country invest in renewable energy. Both of those are VERY GOOD THINGS.
The distribution of wealth and power is, undoubtedly, an extremely important issue. But it's not the ONLY issue that the President deals with.
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Sat Oct-29-11 02:59 PM
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7. Without 270 EVs those 99% get four more years of a guy who will hate them. |
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With them, they will get someone who will listen to them and support them, even if he doesn't give them everything they want.
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Sat Oct-29-11 03:40 PM
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8. They go hand in hand, really. |
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Obama has not been perfect as president, but he's easily done more for the 99% than any president since LBJ. If he doesn't get those 270 electoral votes, we'll get a Romney or a Cain or a Gingrich White House that will screw over the 99% and keep the wealth gap growing.
Plus, you have to think about the long-term effects of this election. I truly believe that this is the most important election in decades, and I normally hate these "It's the most important election EVER" cliches. The obvious one is the Supreme Court. If Obama is re-elected, we can have a liberal, or at least center-left, Supreme Court within the next few years. If a GOPer gets in, expect a 7-2 conservative SCOTUS for years and years to come. That means more Citizens United rulings for 20-30 years.
Also, whoever's in power when the economy recovers will get credit for it. Obama deserves a lot of the credit for an economic recovery (which may be starting *fingers crossed*), but if Romney or whoever is in power, the GOP will get credit, and we'll have another 20-30 years of Republican dominance because they'll get all the credit for doing nothing.
This election will have a lasting impact. Either we can head in a more liberal direction by re-electing Obama and giving him a liberal Congress, or we can just let the GOP win and screw over the 99% even more than they already have.
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