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Mon Dec-21-09 11:10 AM
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Obama--lead or lose--well, obviously he's leading |
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since he is the first president to pass massive health care reform bill which will insure over 30 million people and reform the insurance industry. Truman proposed it, JFK, Carter, Clinton--but none succeeded except for President Obama.
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Mon Dec-21-09 11:14 AM
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Mon Dec-21-09 11:15 AM
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2. It isn't on his desk yet. |
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Be careful thinking this is over, it is not over yet.
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Mon Dec-21-09 11:24 AM
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4. that is a good point. I think that, however, Obama can be lauded for getting it further |
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than any other president.
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Mon Dec-21-09 11:17 AM
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3. Keep spewing those talking points. |
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This bill won't insure 30 million people. At best the subsidies will kick in for 13 or 14 million americans, the rest... well do you think that they choose to run around with no health insurance at all?
And, what will be passed in a few weeks is NOTHING like what Truman proposed or even Clinton proposed.
Just because it says "Health Care Reform" doesn't mean that you are comparing apples to apples.
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Mon Dec-21-09 11:38 AM
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Mon Dec-21-09 11:27 AM
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5. Leading the people of this nation like sheep to the slaughter into a predatory monopoly |
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We're paying them full value for whoever gets covered and mandating everyone to buy their product, what the fuck do you think was won?
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Mon Dec-21-09 11:29 AM
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a point lost on too many here
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Mon Dec-21-09 01:03 PM
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13. yeah -- it reverses slavery - makes it okay for EVERYONE |
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Mon Dec-21-09 07:01 PM
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I would rather it be successful. We shall see. None of us know, for better or worse, how it will turn out. Hoping for the best.
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Mon Dec-21-09 11:31 AM
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7. Wha?!?! Do we get a pony with it?!?!...........no?! Well fuck it then!!!!!! |
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Mon Dec-21-09 11:51 AM
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Edited on Mon Dec-21-09 11:59 AM by GreenArrow
You get to be ass raped by an insurance company owned pony, and then presented with a bill for said insurance companies services. You do not get to keep the pony, but you do have to pay the bill. And that's not all! You get all this with the connivance of your Government.
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Mon Dec-21-09 11:33 AM
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8. REFORM the insurance industry? Putting them on WELFARE is more like it |
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But hey -- it assures the party gets big money for the next elections, so I guess that's okay then. :eyes:
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Mon Dec-21-09 11:36 AM
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9. Leading us down the Primrose Path. n/t |
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Mon Dec-21-09 11:43 AM
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11. So was General Custer. |
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Let's see how Obama does.
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Mon Dec-21-09 02:56 PM
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14. As far as I can tell ... |
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Obama didn't do shit to make this bill better.
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Mon Dec-21-09 03:04 PM
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15. This bill is HARDLY "massive" HCR. It's a giveaway to the Big Health INSURANCE Industry. |
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Edited on Mon Dec-21-09 03:04 PM by democrat2thecore
You must be too young to understand what all those Democrats you mentioned were TRULY seeking.
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Mon Dec-21-09 06:48 PM
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16. LOL. I thought the same thing when I saw that other thread. |
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He just accomplished what no other President ever has. He's leading quite well, thank you.
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Mon Dec-21-09 07:19 PM
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18. He's leading us right over a cliff |
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which will cause him to lose.
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