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muntrv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 07:46 PM
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Lawrence O'Donnell rewrite: John Kerry was right when he said fighting terrorism
is primarily a law enforcement issue in 2004 campaign.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 07:47 PM
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1. yup. nt
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 07:47 PM
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2. A super rant
Go Lawrence
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 07:50 PM
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3. I'd say it was a special op issue instead.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 10:28 AM
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14. as I recall, the intention was to use special ops at the time of confrontation...
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 10:29 AM
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23. Law Enforcement also has Special Ops.
SWAT being just one of their most notable. The action taken by Delta and Seal Forces was along the exact same format as SWAT follows.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 12:25 PM
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26. Exactly...and I don't think this nation would have ANY problem allowing this type of force to be
used in missions like this one. In fact, educating the public about how much more EFFICIENT and economical this type of force would be in terrorism cases, is exactly what is needed. Excessive bombing and fullscale wars are NOT efficient, not economic, not effective, and decidely INHUMANE....in other words, they are DUMB for ANY country.
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 07:51 PM
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4. Of course he was
Edited on Tue May-03-11 08:28 PM by Cali_Democrat
The notion that you can use conventional military forces to fight terrorism is beyond absurd.
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Mrs. Overall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 07:52 PM
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5. O'Donnell just obliterated Bush, Cheney, and the entire Republican party--wow...
Excellent--I hope a video gets posted of that.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 07:53 PM
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7. Will be here later - in an hour or so
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 09:45 AM
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13. O'Donnell's tough. MSNBC refused to book him after he attacked credibility of Swiftliars on air.
The last months before 2004 election and O'Donnell was put on a chain by MSNBC. Even Olbermann hadn't been allowed much room at that point, as the NBCs, along with rest of corpmedia, were fully invested in keeping Bush in office for that favorable ruling they got in 2005 from Bush's FCC.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 07:53 PM
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6. Yes. I said so at the time.
The minute the idiots began ranting "Act of war" I knew there was absolutely no hope to avoid war. During a week when I was still in shock, that was what gave me the sickest feeling.
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zigzagzed Donating Member (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 09:07 PM
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8. Yep
With intelligence and special operations teams occasionally thrown in to locate key terrorists and remove them from circulation.
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 01:10 AM
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9. Kick
Edited on Wed May-04-11 01:11 AM by politicasista
:kick: :patriot:
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 01:13 AM
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10. Yep, also said so at the time, we were routinely ignored by post-election Kerry haters
Edited on Wed May-04-11 01:14 AM by Leopolds Ghost
Of course, Kerry could have done more to emphasize this sort of thing.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 09:12 AM
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12. Hard to do when every prominent Dem on TV was siding with Bush's military positions. Kerry was on
his own for the most part back then. Even Biden waited till late 2006 before he came around to Kerry's position. And we all know how Bill Clinton used his summer2004 book tour to vigorously and PUBLICLY defend Bush's military decisions and leadership.
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StarsInHerHair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 02:16 AM
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11. yes, also theRand Corp. released a study on what ends terrorism, I
used to post the link.........it said about 40% success rate in ending terrorism was police/detective work, about another 40% was giving the people a political party to look after their needs, & using the military option had about a 6% or 7% success rate in ending terrorism. Why choose what doesn't work?
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 05:10 PM
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15. yes....but, that wouldn't put the big bucks in MIC's and oil barons' pockets.
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StarsInHerHair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 01:22 AM
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16. BUT tellingvthe voting public MAY LIKELY CHANGE THEIR VOTING PATTERNS
nt
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 10:17 AM
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19. That's exactly what I'd like to see, but, corpmedia is in bed with both MIC and oil industry.
Who will tell the people? It's one thing to tell the truth...it's another thing to expect corpmedia will put that truth into its regular reporting and discussions.

As Greider once asked, "Who will tell the people?"
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 01:27 AM
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17. Of course. I'm sorry it's too late to recommend this.
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deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 01:34 AM
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18. Bush used bin laden to beat kerry in 2004. n/t
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TornadoTN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 10:19 AM
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20. This action against Bin Laden is the best argument for ending the wars I've seen
Intelligence, Clandestine Services, and Special Forces are the best methods to combating terror, not using invasion forces and inflaming an entire region, creating more and more people you have to fight against.
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RockaFowler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 10:21 AM
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21. I think O'Donnell is getting better and better each day
His show is very informative and heck - he's cute to look at :)
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 10:23 AM
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22. Personally of all the presidential elections in my life time, the election of 2004 was the hardest
one for me to take.

Even worse than 2000, and that was traumatic in itself. But in 2004 we saw the damage W did to the world and Kerry was going to put an end to it.
I cried for days and I never did get over it.
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 08:51 PM
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24. Kick n/t
Edited on Thu May-05-11 08:51 PM by politicasista
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 08:52 PM
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25. k&r nt
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 12:39 PM
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27. But he windsurfed.
Therefore he was good enough to be president.

:sarcasm:
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BobbyBoring Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 12:48 PM
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28. Since day 1, 9/12/2001
This should have been treated as a law enforcement issue and not a war. Our military is trained to fight wars against other nations with armed forces, not cave dwellers.

However, handling the aftermath of 9/11 by means of law enforcement would have produced a bunch of different suspects
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