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LuckyTheDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 09:55 PM
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Right-wing conspiracy nuts go ape over made up "military coup" theory of Osama bin Laden killing
Edited on Tue May-03-11 10:03 PM by LuckyTheDog
This is an update of an earlier thread.

One example:

A report which is quickly gaining traction on the web suggests that Obama did not want to take out Osama bin Laden but was overridden by senior military commanders who ordered Navy Seals to carry out the successful operation.

Several reports lead back to Ulsterman, a writer claiming to have direct contact with a White House insider who has been revealing the machinations of the Obama regime and discord among senior executive branch officials. Ulsterman’s report of May 2, 2011 indicated that Obama and his adviser, Valerie Jarrett, did not want the military to kill Osama bin Laden and that Obama did not issue the order to do so.

Source: http://www.thepostemail.com/2011/05/03/did-the-u-s-military-act-on-its-own-authority-to-kill-bin-laden/



From a Freeper thread based on the article posted above:


This is not the first time this version of events has hit the Internet. knowing what we know about Obama I am more inclined to believe this than Obama answering the three am call and acting decisively in our interests.

the alternate narrative has the military going ahead with attack orders and the BHO White House desperately trying to countermand them ... A cancellation order not received or not obeyed. if you look at BHO in the briefing room picture in golf attaire, he looks pretty angry at the events unfolding.

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Think about it. Obama orders the Navy Seals to begin an operation to capture the most wanted man in the world- and he goes and plays golf. Nope. The Seals did it on their own and notified the White House. Obama had to be called in from the links to watch it

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I love our Military... they are the LAST BASTION of our government that STILL BELIEVES IN THE US CONSTITUTION! We owe our Freedom and Liberty to every man and woman that has ever answered America's call... and we may soon owe them for our very existence.
LLS

Source: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2714592/posts




From the "Atlas Shrugged" blog:

Skulking Towards bin Laden: Obama Overridden by Military and Intel Officials in Takeout of OBL?

As Obama continues to politicize and mine the takedown of Osama Bin Laden and the outrageous "Islamic burial" that followed, new details emerge of his reluctance and refusal to sign off on the mission. It is the height of hypocrisy and crass opportunism to draw out the release of the death photos so as to prolong the news cycle on the story, and to neglect the tornado-ravaged parts of the country -- instead, Obama campaigns at Ground Zero on Thursday for an "O-victory lap," while it appears that in fact Obama had to be dragged kicking and screaming to the OBL operation.

The story that follows is deeply disturbing, but hardly surprising. When news broke that Obama rejected bombing the complex last month, one had to wonder why. It was reported that Obama feared collateral damage, despite being assured that the walls of the complex were high enough so that no civilians would be killed. Instead, he risked losing Americans in a mano-a-mano raid.

Source: http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2011/05/skulking-towards-bin-laden-obama-overridden-by-military-and-intel-officials-in-takeout-of-obl.html



The apparent origin of the "story":



A reluctant American president who was ultimately overridden by senior military and intelligence officials to finally take out terrorist Osama Bin Laden…

Note: This communication came from our long time D.C. Insider and details previous and ongoing conflicts surrounding the decision to assassinate terrorist Osama Bin Laden. This has been reproduced here as originally communicated to us.

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Please get this out ASAP. Want specific people to know we know.

RE Osama Bin Laden. Significant push to take him out months ago. Senior WH staff resisted. This was cause of much strain between HC and Obama/Jarrett. HC and LP were in constant communication over matter – both attempted to convince administration to act. Administration feared failure and resulting negative impact on president. Intel disgusted over politics over national security. Staff resigned/left. Check timeline to corroborate.

Now Intel already leaking to media facts surrounding how info obtained. Namely from enhanced interrogation efforts via GITMO prisoners. Obama administration placed in corner on this. Some media aware of danger to president RE this and attempting protection. Others looking for further investigation. We are pushing for them to follow through and already meeting with some access.

Point of determination made FOR Obama not BY Obama. Will clarify as details become more clear. Very clear divide between Military and WH. Jarrett marginalized 100% on decision to take out OBL. She played no part. BD worked with LP and HC to form coalition to force CoC to engage.

IMPORTANT SPECIFIC: When 48 hour go order issued, CoC was told, not requested. Administration scrambled to abort. That order was overruled. This order did not originate from CoC. Repeat – this order did not originate from CoC. He complied, but did not originate.

Independent military contacts have confirmed. Stories corroborate one another. This is legit.

The killing of Osama Bin Laden was in fact a Coup within Obama WH.

Speaking with additional contacts RE info.

Stay safe.


Source: http://newsflavor.com/politics/us-politics/did-senior-militaryintelligence-officials-overrule-president-obama-regarding-mission-to-kill-osama-bin-laden/#ixzz1LLf5Goi3



More:



White House Insider: Obama Hesitated – Panetta Issued Order to Kill Osama Bin Laden

by Ulsterman in Issues, May 3, 2011"What Valerie Jarrett, and the president, did not know is that Leon Panetta had already initiated a program that reported to him –and only him, involving a covert on the ground attack against the compound."

At the conclusion of the mission, after it had been repeatedly confirmed a success, President Obama was once again briefed behind closed doors. The only ones who went in that room besides the president were Bill Daley. John Brennan, and a third individual whose identity remains unknown to me. When leaving this briefing, the president came out of it “…much more confident. Much more certain of himself.” He was also carrying papers in his hand that quite possibly was the address to the nation given later that evening on the Bin Laden mission. The president did not have those papers with him prior to that briefing. The president then returned to the war room, where by this time, Leon Panetta had personally arrived and was receiving congratulations from all who were present.


Source: http://socyberty.com/issues/white-house-insider-obama-hesitated-panetta-issued-order-to-kill-osama-bin-laden/#ixzz1LLgQfObB
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Sanity Claws Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 09:58 PM
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1. the military overrode the Commander in Chief?
What is wrong with these people? They are delusional.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 10:03 PM
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3. This is so sad.
But not unlike alot of the shit that was claimed during the Bush years.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 11:39 PM
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10. Freaker trifecta, delusional, ignorant, racist.
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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 09:58 PM
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2. I read that Osama was wearing a "Rush is Right" T-Shirt and
had posters of Hannity and Beck in his home.
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Puzzler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 10:05 PM
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4. I thought this was planned for several months beforehand...
... including constructing a full mock-up of the whole compound for the seals to practice in. In reality, Obama was very involved right from the git-go.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 10:05 PM
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 10:09 PM
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6. Scraping the rw barrel.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 10:37 PM
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7. I wonder why their Bush didn't find Bin Ladin?
Bush did say that he didn't care where he was and yet he was supposed to have been 'the one'.
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Demobrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 11:01 PM
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8. Oh shoot I've got that beat
At least they admit it actually happened. The ones I've run into are sure the whole thing is a fabricated story to deflect from Donald Trump's request for Obama's transcripts.
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 11:34 PM
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9. ThaNKs for the first hearty belly laugh I've had all week!
:hi:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 11:42 PM
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 11:47 PM
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12. Very Odd Source, Sir
Edited on Tue May-03-11 11:49 PM by The Magistrate
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 06:25 AM
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13. It would have been a tough decision. The military leaders would have had to
show absolute confidence. But judging from the looks exchanged between Gates and Obama at the Press Roast, I would say that they were clearly coming from the same place with regard to going ahead or not. There was a camaraderie in Obama's smile at Gates that showed a lot of confidence.

This was a military operation. It is the job of civilians to be very cautious. The report is that Obama insisted on making sure that Bin Laden was really present and that it was Bin Laden and not someone else that they were attacking. A misunderstanding about Obama's caution on that ground might have caused this report.

But I don't think the Freepers are right about this. The entire Obama administration National Security leadership was in the room watching the events unfold. They were clearly on one page.

It is understandable that Valerie Jarrett might have had doubts about going ahead. Had this attack failed, then she would have had to face the world and explain.
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 06:34 AM
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14. They just can't stand the truth. Reality is too much for them so ...
they have to invent a story that gives them comfort. They need their alternate universe, without it they have nothing.
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LuckyTheDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 11:39 AM
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15. As usual...
... I missed what was said in the deleted message. Could somebody fill me in -- here or via a PM?
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 12:04 PM
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16. According to the teabillies, this is what happened:
Panetta: Sir, we have OBL captured.

POTUS: Oh, let him go. Let's all be friends.

Panetta: No. We're going to kill him.

POTUS: KILL HIM?!? But why? He's my friend! He's going to help me destroy the United States!

Panetta: Sir, YOU will be present as we kill him, and YOU WILL LIKE IT.

POTUS: ...if i have to...ok...

Panetta: Don't you ever try to countermand my orders again! Now go wash my car!
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