Catherine Vincent
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Wed May-04-11 09:57 AM
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The Repubs have started on the "Obama first nobel prize winner that kills" meme |
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I just googled it and it's spreading fast. Of course if you mention there were others like Yassar Arafat, then they take joy in equating the President with Arafat.
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Wed May-04-11 09:59 AM
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1. Well it is somewhat ironic. |
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That is the risk with giving someone the peace prize based on potential. You can end up with some ironic situations.
Personally I don't think Obama SHOULD have gotten the Peace prize WHEN he did. At the end of his Presidency is the prize was deserved he could have been awarded it at that point.
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Wed May-04-11 09:59 AM
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2. What about Henry Kissinger? |
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And are the Republicans *against* killing Bin Laden then?
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Wed May-04-11 10:02 AM
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9. Ding, ding, ding. I'll take "American governmental mass murderers |
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Wed May-04-11 01:23 PM
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Wed May-04-11 09:59 AM
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3. Hint: bringing up Arafat is *not* the best strategy to counter this (nt) |
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Wed May-04-11 10:00 AM
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4. I'd add Kissinger to that list. |
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Wed May-04-11 10:00 AM
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5. If this mission had been carried out in the year after 2001 |
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Edited on Wed May-04-11 10:01 AM by undeterred
think of the innocent lives that would have been spared.
It would have been worthy of a Nobel Peace Prize, although it is only possible to see that in the hindsight that sees a horrendous presidency that wasted over a million lives.
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Wed May-04-11 10:01 AM
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6. Like others who've already posted, my first thought was Kissinger nt |
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Wed May-04-11 03:05 PM
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28. Are you saying the Kissinger won the Nobel Peace Prize? If so, I'd |
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forgotten. That would be an enormous travesty. He engineered the deaths of thousands for Reagan et al.
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Wed May-04-11 10:01 AM
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7. Removing a terrorist isn't necessarily anti-peace. In fact, I hope it helps |
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bring about the end of the war sooner.
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Wed May-04-11 10:03 AM
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11. "Removing a terrorist" - nice sanitary language you're using there. |
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While I hope the war ends sooner too, I doubt that executing someone without a trial will do the trick.
But the jury's still out (npi).
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Wed May-04-11 10:06 AM
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12. Splattering his brains across the room, then. However it had to happen, one |
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major proponent of violence is gone. That's not against the goal of peace. I think it furthers it.
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Wed May-04-11 10:07 AM
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13. Except there's that little problem of executing an accused person |
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without giving them a trial.
I think we will have to agree to disagree.
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Wed May-04-11 10:02 AM
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8. I thought he didn't kill anyone, so he doesn't deserve the credit? |
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And Bin Laden is still alive, and he's also been dead for several years now?
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Wed May-04-11 10:03 AM
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10. Serioiusly? That is all they got? |
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Like they actually give a shit about peace of the Prize.
Keep on trying on the "bad-Obama" memes guys. Throw enough against the wall maybe something will stick. Or, not.
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Wed May-04-11 10:32 AM
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18. They're really reaching, aren't they? |
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Throw anything against the wall and hope it sticks. Pathetic, just pathetic.
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Wed May-04-11 10:07 AM
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14. What happened to the part where Obama wanted to sing kumbaya to the terrorists? |
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I thought Obama was a wussy liberal who just wanted to reason with al Qaeda.
He went from that to a cold blooded killer awfully quick, huh?
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Wed May-04-11 10:08 AM
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15. Yes, bringing up Arafat is not a good response |
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But I also thought of Kissinger too. When they did award Pres. Obama the peace prize, I thought they shouldn't be awarded to any President since they have the authority to start wars. If anything, they should receive it after their presidency.
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Wed May-04-11 10:10 AM
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First, I don't think Obama should have gotten the Nobel when he did. It seemed to be based on his goals, not his accomplishments, but that is another issue.
Obama did exactly what he should have done in this situation. He allowed the intelligence and military communities to devise a very sound plan to rid the world of OBL. He then had the stones to order the attack even though there was a possibility it could go wrong, and almost did.
The only thing I fault the administration for is changing the story after the fact. It was initially reported from the White House that OBL put up an armed fight and that is why he was killed. Changing the story to killing an unarmed man makes it look like and assassination. I don't have a real problem with assassinating OBL, but the court of world opinion might.
BTW, I think Arafat getting the Nobel was a complete joke.
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Wed May-04-11 10:17 AM
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17. So, having won the Nobel Peace Prize |
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ties his hands when it comes to using the military for anything? I'd have a big issue with him having the prize if he was invading and/or occupying other countries like what Bush was doing but judiciously using the military to hunt down and capture/kill the most wanted terrorist in the world isn't unseemly to me. I suppose that we can all imagine the hue and cry, particularly from the Repubs, if he refused to pull the trigger on Bin Laden because he's a Nobel Peace Prize winner.
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Wed May-04-11 10:41 AM
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19. Careful insanity is contagious. |
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Wed May-04-11 10:49 AM
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20. Arafat, Begin, Teddy Roosevelt, Kissinger, Wilson. |
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Wed May-04-11 10:52 AM
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21. If they are so all-fired worried about killing (NOW), why do they respect |
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the Nobel Prize at all? Are they seriously aware of Alfred Nobel's line of work?
One more pathetic instance of their regimented, black-and-white thinking. They simply don't understand nuance or compromise or anything involving a third way.
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Wed May-04-11 11:10 AM
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22. You know, if they want to keep bringing up the fact that the world |
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was so pissed off with Bush, that Obama got the NPP, that's fine with me. What's the worst case there? Oh, he should only have been considered for the NPP. Too bad.
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Wed May-04-11 01:29 PM
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24. Many killers have been given that prize. But you who never was? |
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Gandhi.
It says a lot of about the value of it.
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Wed May-04-11 01:31 PM
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25. The more they attack him, the bigger we'll know they think this is. |
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Edited on Wed May-04-11 01:37 PM by EFerrari
They'll lose this one, anyway.
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Wed May-04-11 01:32 PM
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I hope they keep talking about it.
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Wed May-04-11 01:55 PM
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27. Killing is only okay when the GOP does it. |
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And no, I don't condone killing.
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Wed May-04-11 03:09 PM
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29. How does one expect the President of the US, who happens to be a Nobel Peace Prize winner |
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not kill someone. I can't think of a single president that doesn't have blood of some sort on his hands. I'm pretty certain one item in the job description is ability to kill people with a word.
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