Liars for Jesus. Now available as a free download.

[Viking12]

In response to Christian Nationalist David Barton's appearance on last night's The Daily Show, author Chris Rodda has made her book, Liars for Jesus, available as a free download. As she writes at http://scienceblogs.com/dispatches/2011/05/do_well_by_doing_good.php#more">Dispatches from the Culture Wars, "A lie can be told in a few words. Debunking that lie can take pages." Well here is a 500 page take down of the most egregious lies of the right's most celebrated historical revisionist:


http://www.liarsforjesus.com/downloads/LFJ_FINAL.pdf

[JuniperLea]

1. Interesting...

I was just telling a fundy cousin that he is bearing false witness when he furthers such lies.

He's stull stuck on Rev. Wright... claims he knows someone who used to go to that church but left when the Rev used the Lord's name in vain... which we know is a damn lie. Now Obama has some "disease" that is putting us in danger... oy.

[Viking12]

2. She has a great website, too.

Lot's of video responding directly to Christofacist appearances on RW talk shows.


http://www.liarsforjesus.com/

[JuniperLea]

11. Awesome!

Saved the link; downloaded the book! Thanks!

[Skip_In_Boulder]

3. Thanks for posting

I have read excerpts from this but would like to read the whole book.

[crickets]

4. Wow. K&R!

[Fuzz]

5. Wow, watching the extended interview now. That guy is just talking in circles.

He is quite the bullshitter.

[BeHereNow]

9. And the danger is...

The people who listen to him are thinking in circles.
A dangerous fit indeed.

BHN

[ejpoeta]

12. i don't understand his line of thinking. i mean when you think of what the people

who came here were escaping from.... the spanish inquisition..... places where people were forced to hide their religion.... they didn't want that for this country. that is why they said congress shall make no laws.. religion was supposed to be left up to individuals. there is no 'christian nation'. i just watched a documentary on pbs last night that was talking about the case that took religion out of the schools and what the mccullum family went through fighting the school about it.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

6. K&R

[hifiguy]

7. This Barton klown is to an actual historian

what my cat is to theoretical physics. A non-player.

But my cat doesn't go on the teevee machine and spread lies and horseshit at the rate of tons per minute.

[Fuzz]

8. Found this interesting, he's an admitted liar.

"Christian nation" propagandist David Barton has issued a statement conceding that the following twelve quotations attributed to prominent historical figures are either false or at best questionable. WallBuilders' observations about the quotes are in parenthesis.

It cannot be emphasized too strongly or too often that this great nation was founded, not by religionists, but by Christians; not on religions, but on the gospel of Jesus Christ!
-- Patrick Henry (questionable)

It is impossible to rightly govern the world without God and the Bible.
-- George Washington (questionable)

Our laws and our institutions must necessarily be based upon and embody the teachings of the Redeemer of mankind. It is impossible that it should be otherwise. In this sense and to this extent, our civilizations and our institutions are emphatically Christian.
-- Holy Trinity v. U.S. (false)

We have staked the whole future of American civilization, nor upon the power of government, far from it. We have staked the future of all of our political institutions upon the capacity of each and all of us to govern ourselves ... according to the Ten Commandments of God.
-- James Madison (false)

Whosoever shall introduce into the public affairs the principles of primitive Christianity will change the face of the world.
-- Benjamin Franklin (questionable)

The principles of all genuine liberty, and of wise laws and administrations are to be drawn from the Bible and sustained by its authority. The man therefore who weakens or destroys the divine authority of that book may be assessory to all the public disorders which society is doomed to suffer.
-- Noah Webster (questionable)

There are two powers only which are sufficient to control men, and secure the rights of individuals and a peaceable administration; these are the combined force of religion and law, and the force or fear of the bayonet.
-- Noah Webster (questionable)

The only assurance of our nation's safety is to lay our foundation in morality and religion.
-- Abe Lincoln (questionable)

The philosophy of the school room in one generation will be the philosophy of government in the next.
-- Abe Lincoln (questionable)

A general dissolution of principles and manners will more surely overthrow the liberties of America than the whole force of the common enemy. While the people are virtuous they cannot be subdued; but when once they lose their virtue then will be ready to surrender their liberties to the first external or eternal invader.
-- Samuel Adams (questionable)


I have always said and always will say that the studious perusal of the Sacred Volume will make us better citizens.
-- Thomas Jefferson (questionable)

America is great because she is good. and if America ever ceases to be good, she will cease to be great.
-- Alexis de Toqueville, Democracy in America (definitely not in the book; perhaps in other more obscure writings; questionable)

http://www.positiveatheism.org/writ/founding.htm#MYTHING

Edited because of an oops

[Viking12]

14. Not lying makes the baby jesus cry.

[patrice]

10. K&R + Shared.

[harris8]

13. K&R

Fascinating book, can't wait to read the whole thing!