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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 03:15 PM
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Osama bin Laden Living on Pakistani Military Property?-Evidence Suggests Direct Role Harboring Osama
Edited on Thu May-05-11 03:37 PM by kpete
Pakistani Military Faces Scrutiny as Unfolding Evidence Suggests Direct Role in Harboring bin Laden

Numerous questions have been raised on how Osama bin Laden could have been living in the Pakistani city of Abbottabad just down the street from Pakistan's premier military academy. CIA Director Leon Panetta has reportedly said Pakistan was either "knowledgeable or incompetent" when it came to bin Laden's whereabouts. Some evidence has emerged to indicate that the Pakistani military may have had a direct role in harboring bin Laden. Meanwhile, the Pakistani government is claiming it warned U.S. intelligence two years ago about the compound where bin Laden was killed.

One journalist that has been reporting from Abbottabad is Graeme Smith, an award-winning foreign correspondent for The Globe and Mail newspaper in Canada. He is in Abbottabad investigating the mystery behind the bin Laden compound. Democracy Now! interviewed him May 5.

VIDEO & MORE:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/democracy-now/was-osama-bin-laden-livin_b_858181.html

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DEMOCRACY NOW

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Some evidence has emerged to indicate that the Pakistani military may have had a direct role in harboring bin Laden. The journalist Steve Coll, who has written extensively on the bin Laden family, reports that local maps show land near the bin Laden compound as "restricted areas," indicating that they were under military control. Coll writes that the initial circumstantial evidence suggests, quote, "that bin Laden was effectively being housed under Pakistani state control."

.........what’s interesting is that all along the way, you know, there would have opportunity to check. One guy who has built 25 homes in Bilal Town, which is—he’s a contractor who works in the area, said that, you know, typically, your ID would be checked about seven times along the way. And what also struck me was that, in that area—it was built on military land, which is not unusual. There’s a lot of suburban development on military land in Pakistan. But in those areas, your application to build something has to be reviewed by a cantonment board, which is chaired by a serving colonel in the Pakistani military. And so, it really does seem like bin Laden was living for years right under their noses and, you know, that these checks and balances were either missed or overlooked.

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http://www.democracynow.org/2011/5/5/pakistani_military_faces_scrutiny_as_unfolding



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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 03:24 PM
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1. Not surprising. With friends like Pakistan, who needs terrorists?
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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 03:27 PM
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2. best flag EVER!!!
happen to love bears too!

peace, kpete
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JustFiveMoreMinutes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 03:30 PM
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3. The data, the files, the information, etc from the compound....
... should tell the 'final' story.

Until then, guess and pontificate all we want.
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tinrobot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 03:32 PM
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4. They warned U.S. intelligence two years ago about the compound
Yet, they didn't have enough motivation to walk down the street from their military academy and check it out for themselves.

Totally plausible :eyes:
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pa28 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 03:36 PM
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5. Not surprising. Pakistan's military spokesman told us as much in 2006.
This little gem seems to have gone down the memory hole.

Pakistan Gives Bin Laden Free Pass

Interestingly General Sultan Khan used to be a faculty member at the military academy near the site of Bin-Laden's capture. I really hope Congress and media decide to take a hard look at this
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 03:46 PM
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6. Lets assume that bin Laden was under house arrest or had safe harbor
in Abottabad. We certainly know the ISI/Pakistani government had ties to AQ - witness the curious case of the $100,000 wired to 9/11 hijackers through people with direct contact to ISI Director Mahood Ahmed. http://www.historycommons.org/timeline.jsp?the_isi:_a_more_detailed_look=mahmoodAhmed&timeline=complete_911_timeline

But, I have to believe their were also honest brokers in the Pakstani ISI, military, and government who wanted to destroy AQ and must have shared this intel with the US during the 6 years that OBL was in the compound (assuming he moved in after completion in 2005). Why wasn't he taken down earlier? Was there a quid pro quo going on? I've yet to hear anyone explain who and why the orders were given days after 9/11 to give the bin Laden family safe passage out of the US while the entire US was shut down for commercial flying. Why weren't they detained and used to get OBL to give himself up?

I think there's still a lot more to learn about OBL and how he managed to evade his day of reckoning for almost 10 years. Now that the game is up...will others start to tell what they knew?

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 03:48 PM
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7. A reporter on the ground there told Amy this morning
that the "mansion" looks more like a security complex or a prison and whoever built it didn't seem to have bin Laden's comfort in mind. Interesting.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 03:53 PM
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8. A quid pro quo?
The quid - billions of dollars of security money to the Pakistan government for the quo - keeping bin Laden under wraps and justifying our continued GWOT - a very lucrative growth industry if you happen to be in the MIC?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 03:54 PM
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9. Possible. Some of that money may only go thru Pakistan.
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Distant Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 04:30 PM
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10. A lot of ?? Not going to get quick Answer now OBL is dead. That might be intentional
Edited on Thu May-05-11 04:31 PM by Distant Observer
My Brother thinks someone involved in the operation was tasked to ensure that OBL never got a chance to shed any light on the Bush/Bin Laden friends and family rumors.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 04:51 PM
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11. There's all kinds of ways that OBL can speak from the grave.
He could have produced his own documentary with all kinds of interesting information that may be in the mail to every major media outlet as we speak. If I was OBL and I hated America as much as we are lead to believe...I could see a final tell all get released as his way of having the last word with the US of A. His day in the court of public opinion, so to speak. I wonder how well the Bush family are sleeping these days....
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