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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 03:46 PM
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I'd like to put this out here - I'm 100% whomever the Democrat Candidate is in 2012 Prez race....
Edited on Thu May-05-11 03:50 PM by LynneSin
Mind you, I suspect that 99.99999999995% chance that it will be Barack Obama, a candidate I'm about 99.99999999995% supporting in the primaries. (There's a chance I could fall off the bandwagon if something extreme happens).

But what annoys me is this - for those of you who feel "I Can't Vote for Obama" I'd like to ask a simple question - who will you vote for should Obama win the primaries?. I welcome all discussions and debates from all the democratic presidental primary candidates in 2012 because that is something that will be something we can all expect during the primaries.

But seriously, if Obama wins that primary then what?

EDIT NOTE:

I guess I would have to say I'm 99.99999999995% for the democratic candidate. Say some bizarro twist of fate we end up nominating someone like Donald Trump or Rush Limbaugh as the democratic candidate, I won't vote for them because I know that somehow our voting system was tampered with.
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 03:48 PM
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1. It's Obama all the way without a doubt.
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TTUBatfan2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 03:52 PM
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6. Yeah...
With his fundraising ability and the fact that America's bogeyman was killed on his watch, there won't be a Primary unless the economy completely collapses in the next few months.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 03:50 PM
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2. The unrecs are telling...
People cut their noses off to spite their faces.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 03:51 PM
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5. But they won't reply because they know it is against DU rules
to support someone other than the dem candidate in the election especially with the primaries.

And I'm ok with that - for those people this is more of a rhetorical question I guess.

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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 03:58 PM
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13. I unRec'ed. Only because this stuff should be in GD:P
LEAVE GD ALONE !!!!!111111

:cry:
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 04:06 PM
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20. Awwww you meanie....
:pals:

:loveya:
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 04:08 PM
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22. LOL Well Obama does have an entire forum here
GD has to cover everything from Politics to Sarah Palin to the Economy to Royal weddings to Libya to Wisconsin to how Chavez is ruining the world this week.

It's daunting

:o
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 04:13 PM
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27. Sarah Palin should be in the DU Lounge, she's not a politician
Just a reality TV star and a bit of a novelty
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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 04:05 PM
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18. Some trolls live under bridges, others inhabit message boards.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 04:10 PM
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23. Un-recced for whining about un-recs.
:P

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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 04:26 PM
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29. LOL!
Yeah, this could be a vicious circle!

:P
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 03:51 PM
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3. I'll vote for the most progressive, anti-war, candidate on the balllot ..or write one in.
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 03:51 PM
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4. Who Would They Vote For?
Maybe Nader -- is he going to run again?

:)
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 03:54 PM
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7. I prefer to call him "periodic cicada Ralph Nader"
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 03:56 PM
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9. Well if That Were True
He should have a cycle based on a prime number (17, 13, 11 years, etc). Guess he's atypical.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 03:56 PM
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11. One write in vote is as good as another...
I guess diluting the vote is a gotcha for some.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 04:10 PM
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24. A Kucinich-Nader ticket or Grayson-Nader ticket?
:shrug:

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coccom Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 04:12 PM
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26. I hope both of those guys sit this one out
And I think they will. Losing an election is a death sentence in US politics, just look at Dean and Gore, two of the most solid people to run for president in the past few decades. Love me some Kucinich, though.
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coccom Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 03:55 PM
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8. When has an incumbent president ever lost a primary?
That being said, I'll be happy to campaign against Obama in the primaries in whatever limited capacity I can. I hope a real progressive candidate steps up (Warren/Sanders 2012?). But obviously when it comes down to brass tacks I'll put in a vote for Barack over Newt Gingrinch or whoever the other guys run.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 04:04 PM
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17. Here you go:
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Has_an_incumbent_president_ever_lost_the_nomination_to_run_for_a_second_term


Four incumbent presidents have been denied a nomination to run by their own party. Franklin Pierce, Millard Fillmore, Andrew Johnson (sort of), and Chester A. Arthur; but only Pierce had actually been elected president. The rest were vice presidents who who ascended to the presidency after assassinations or deaths in office.
Pierce was our 14th President and served from 1853-1857. John Fremont defeated Pierce in his bid for renomination, making Pierce the only elected President (rather than a Vice President who succeeded to the position) to not gain his party's nomination for a second term.



____________________________

But to be fair, in modern times I don't think it's happened. Kennedy came close in 1980 but Carter pulled it out.
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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 03:56 PM
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10. Why so curious?
Do they have to explain to you why they vote the way they want to? Isn't that their own private business, and also, its against official rules to say you won't vote for Obama anyway.

Bizarre OP.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 03:57 PM
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12. Well then why do we get threads everyday about how DUers won't vote for Obama
:shrug:

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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 04:00 PM
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14. Well, it will be clamped down on in time probably
maybe not close enough to the 2012 election season yet, so its still ok. I may have spoke too soon about that rule.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 04:02 PM
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15. I understand where you're coming from - it is a strange post
But When I see these anti-Obama posts I wonder 'who are they voting for should he win the nomination'.

I highly expect few answers from those who post that type of thread.

But thank you for your feedback :D
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coccom Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 04:11 PM
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25. I assume nonvoters
the US has a pretty high rate of voter apathy
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 05:16 PM
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31. To me it seems some of those posts are more about discouraging other DU'ers to vote rather than
Edited on Thu May-05-11 05:18 PM by emulatorloo
to talk about an alternative.

We have to face the highly likely possibility that Republican operatives are posting here and attacking Obama from the left.

Those operatives' goal is to suppress democratic turnout.

However in more serious posts, I have seen these names floated

- Russ Feingold
- Howard Dean
- Dennis Kuchinich
- Alan Grayson

However none of those people have any interest in running, and I beleive all of them support Obama's re-election.

Just my 2 cents worth.
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former9thward Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 04:04 PM
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16. There will be no primaries.
No one is running against him.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 04:08 PM
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21. There will be a primary and I think there will be those who run against him
But I highly doubt it will be any truly serious candidate that could give him a run for the money even if they have hardcore progressive values.
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former9thward Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 04:14 PM
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28. No candidate will run against him.
The primaries are only about 8-9 months from now. Any candidate would have to be raising money, and a lot of it, right now. Everyone would know about it. There is nobody. There are a few states where a nobody can get on the ballot for a $100 filing fee just to say they did it but those types are not serious and no one cares about them.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 04:28 PM
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30. They must know it would be a big waste of a LOT of money...
I would think money alone would be a deterrent.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 04:05 PM
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19. Of COURSE I'm voting for him.
Honestly, despite the disappointments- really, Holder's asinine DOJ behavior towards medical marijuana is the worst of it- obviously, it's no contest.

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