Who else thinks that if Dubya (or any Repub. Prez) had had a ceremony at the WTC site to celebrate

[kath]

the killing of Bin Laden we'd all be screaming that it was political theater, political grandstanding, exploiting the Sept. 11 tragedy, pulling the Guiliani "9/11, 9/11, 9/11" crap, or whatever??

But if Obama does it, it's all A-Okay and peachy keen.

UGH.

{donning flame-proof suit. But the events of the past 4 days have really left a bad taste in my mouth.}

[virgogal]

1. # 1

[ingac70]

2. Depends on how it is done....

Prancing about in a flight suit with a bull horn would be OTT. But if it was the Chimperor simply laying a wreath I wouldn't have a problem with it.

[steve2470]

7. Agreed nt

[onenote]

3. sure some would

but if bush had been in office when OBL was nailed and bush went to ny in the same low key manner as Obama's visit, I'd be fine with it. Of course, I wouldn't have bet on Bush taking a low key approach.

[kath]

5. but did he really have to show up there at all?

I'm just really not into all the flag-waving and "USA USA USA" stuff this week...

[JoePhilly]

4. I know, when Obama pulled up in that aircraft carrrier, I thought that was tacky.

Obama met quietly with people ion NY, did not parachute in, no parade, no speeches.

But let's play the false equivalency game.

Fail.

[LiberalAndProud]

6. If the President met with me and my fellows to honor my loved ones, I would feel honored.

So there is that.

[handmade34]

8. I think Presiden Obama

going to New York was awesome and very appropriate! It would be appropriate for any sitting President

[cliffordu]

9. How did you like the debate this evening? Who do you like???

[Old and In the Way]

10. I thought the "Mission Really Accomplished" Skywriting was overboard.

If Obama had just stayed with the ticker tape parade down Broadway, I'd have thought that was sufficient.

:eyes:

[NYC_SKP]

11. You are correct! Because if Dubya had done a ceremony at the WTC to celebrate...

the killing of Bin Laden, it would truly have been shallow political theater, political grandstanding BIG time, exploiting the Sept. 11 tragedy for sure, and pulling the Guiliani "9/11, 9/11, 9/11" crap, and more!

And he'd never had let those dirty fire fighters and children so close to him.

And Barack Obama did none of these thing.

Why, he even invited Dubya and the dick turned down the opportunity.

It was the right thing to do, and he did it with dignity.

:patriot:

[kath]

12. The OP to this other DU thread expresses the sickened, nauseated feeling I've had the past 4 days:

A Cold Feeling
Why I Don't Feel Much About Osama's Death
By GARY LEUPP
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1043714

What do I feel? First of all, a kind of matter-of-fact appreciation of the report that a mass murderer is no more for this world. His death was his hubris and his karma.

But when I see crowds of Americans waving the flag, singing patriotic songs, and chanting “USA! USA!” I feel a little nauseated. How can anyone aware of what the U.S. is doing in Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, Yemen and Libya feel nationalistic pride at this moment in history?

When I watch NBC’s Brian Williams eagerly prompting CIA director Leon Panneta to affirm that “enhanced interrogation methods” facilitated bin Laden’s killing, implicitly justifying the water-boarding torture chambers of Guantanamo, I feel sickened further.

But the nature of the death---by assassination, illegally, in a foreign country---fills me with disgust. The lies that immediately accompanied it (just as the U.S. UN ambassador was falsely claiming that Gaddafi’s forces in Libya were being rationed Viagra so as to better rape members of the opposition!) repulse me too. “Fierce firefight”! Doesn’t that make the assassins seem heroic? Wife used as “human shield”! Doesn’t that make bin Laden seem all the more evil? (Recall the false stories that accompanied the capture of Panama’s Manuel Noriega, including the cocaine that turned out to be tamale flour; or that surrounded the attack on Iraq in 1991, including the lie that Iraqi forces invading Kuwait had slaughtered prematurely born babies dragged from incubators in the hospital.) It is amazing what people will believe, disgusting to observe how rulers exploit their gullibility.

Read the full article at:

http://www.counterpunch.org/leupp05052011.html

And then there's another thread asking when will all this Osama coverage end - I wonder the same thing. I was expecting a huge media blitz of WTC/Sept 11 stuff this fall, with the 10th anniversary - but to have it all now, then AGAIN in September? - OY.

[Tx4obama]

16. There is always the option of turning off your TV if the coverage bothers you in September. n/t

[Warren DeMontague]

13. I would have greatly preferred that Bush do that instead of invading Iraq.

Bush told us, in no uncertain terms, that he essentially 'didn't give a shit' about the guy behind the attack that was being used to justify his war. When I protested the Iraq invasion, I seem to remember "Where's Osama" being the refrain of the day; certainly, at least there, there were no 'sickened' moral qualms about going after and actually GETTING the fucker who DID ATTACK US.

We have a right, as a nation, to self-defense. 9-11 was an attack. This shitwit killed over 3,000 innocent people, forcing some to jump out of a burning skyscraper. I'm sorry that you've got a 'bad taste' because people are glad he's dead. I don't. I'm not glad we had to endure 2 terms of Bush and a whole host of ancillary crap before we got to this day, but now it's here. Finally.

Now, maybe, we can get our act together as a nation and start focusing on our real problems.

[NYC Liberal]

14. No. Obama gave a 5 minute speech the night bin Laden was killed

and went to the WTC to lay a wreath, four days later. That's it.

I didn't even have too much of a problem with Bush's "standing on the rubble" thing. I mean I already hated the guy so it's not like I was rallying behind him. But in light of what had happened (and knowing everything he did since), that was a blip.

[Raine]

15. No, not necessarily. I WANTED Bush to get OBL so

I would've been happy if he had, at least within the first couple of years. Later depending on how it was done I might have been suspicious. Unlike the other side I don't want the US to fail it's people and be a laughingstock to the rest of the world.

Besides if we trust our side more than their side (known liars) in what they say or do that's just being smart, duh.