Daughter says bin Laden captured alive then killed

[humbled_opinion]

BEIRUT: Osama bin Laden was killed at close range after he had been captured alive by U.S. commandos, one of the al-Qaeda leader’s daughters told investigators, reported a pan-Arab newspaper Thursday.


Ash-Sharq Al-Awsat newspaper said Saffia, bin Laden’s daughter who is believed to be 12 years old, told Pakistani security intelligence while under interrogation that she had witnessed the demise of her father at the hands of U.S. Navy Seals at a compound near the Pakistani capital Islamabad.


President Barack Obama announced Monday that the al-Qaeda leader had been tracked down and killed by U.S. Special Forces in the Pakistan city of Abbottabad Sunday.


Saffia, who was one of several of bin Laden’s family members to survive the May 2 operation, said her father's killing had taken place on the ground floor of the complex, the paper said.

"She saw the Americans capture her father alive, then they shot him at point-blank range in a room at the ground floor," Ash-Sharq Al-Awsat said. "Bin Laden's was dragged toward a helicopter hovering over the compound," it said.



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[dkf]

1. Maybe she is being coached by the Pakistanis.

I don't trust them one inch.

[flamingdem]

28. I agree. They are furious with the US

want to have an excuse to rail and please the fanatics in their midst

[Zynx]

2. Even if true, I wouldn't care.

[coalition_unwilling]

4. So you'd be OK with executing a parent in front of his young children??? Oh wait, that's right, she

was a terrorist disguised as a child.

:sarcasm:

[Joe the Revelator]

7. She's better off not under his influence.

[coalition_unwilling]

10. Come on, admit it. She was a terrorist disguised as a child, therefore

not entitled to any consideration like the kind we'd accord an American 12-year-old.

:sarcasm:

[Joe the Revelator]

You think that if a mass murdering American was in a room with a kid, we wouldn't shoot him?

If we felt it was justified by his threat level? Seriously?

[StClone]

12. Agreed

[rbrnmw]

18. the 9/11 victims had kids too

what about the kids who watched their parents die on TV as The Twin Towers collapsed?

[coalition_unwilling]

24. If we can agree on one principle, maybe it's this: if you are going

to execute someone, you don't do it in front of his or her children.

[Drahthaardogs]

23. Well, if Osama was a better father

he would not have his twelve year old daughter anywhere near him considering there was a $25,000,000 bounty on his head and the army of the Western World out looking to blow him into a million pieces. I say this was a clear cut case of child endangerment. Maybe we should have called Social Services.

[coalition_unwilling]

25. In addition to the "End Justifies the Means" and "Two Wrongs Make

a Right" justifications, we can now add a "Blame the guy who got shot that he was shot in front of his children." Oy vey.

[Drahthaardogs]

29. Seriously?

You have an entire army after you and chose to hole up with your wife and children and do not think that was a totally self-absorbed fucked up decision?

[seabeyond]

43. we have seen the picture of the bedroom and all the blood on the floor. contradicts her story. nt

[coalition_unwilling]

46. You probably believe to this day that the North Vietnamese actually

did fire on the U.S.S. Maddox while it sailed innocently in international waters.

I really don't think there's much further to discuss.

[seabeyond]

47. logic, dontcha love. blood all over bedroom floor. say shot in bedroom. daughter says first floor

under pakistan watch....

yup

really going to go with the daughter.

oh, wait, seals put the blood on the floor to fool us....

[Zynx]

48. In terms of the question, nasty things happen when you're involved in the business he was.

I do not whine when an overall good thing was accomplished.

[foxtrot]

3. I hope they get her on Al Jazeera and she tells the entire

Muslim world what happens when you fuck with President Obama. It won't be pretty, he isn't Bush.

[coalition_unwilling]

26. 'What happens when you fuck with President Obama'? Somehow

your anger and possibly your partisan leanings have clouded your sense of chronology, I fear.

But that aside, you really have no problem executing a parent in front of his or her 12-year-old child??? would that be any parent and any 12-year-old child or only this parent and this terrorist disguised as a child?

[Texasgal]

5. So the fuck what.

Your DADDY was a POS terrorist. Fuck him.

[coalition_unwilling]

6. Thereby proving the Old Testatment adage that the sins of the

father fall on the children.

You do realize the daughter is 12 years old??? But you're OK that her father gets shot in front of her??? I guess they do things differently in Texas.

Ugh.

[Joe the Revelator]

8. Your self righteousness this evening is bordering on schtick.

[aquart]

15. Yes. I'm okay with it.

[dionysus]

58. rather than jump, you seem to have jet-packed over the shark...

[TheKentuckian]

41. Sounds like you've decided him winning is the way to go.

It is not about him. It is absolutely about us and this is dark age thinking.

If you don't care if a child is witness to their parent being whacked because you hate the parent that bad then I think you are following what you hate. There is nothing that child could have done for that and I think we as a people should aspire to be better. I'm no pacifist and have no issue with taking bin Laden out but if you capture someone then you have a prisoner and that is it.

[OHdem10]

9. They went there to kill him.

[tabasco]

11. Waaaaaah! They killed my mass murdering terrorist daddy!

Boohoohoo!!

[coalition_unwilling]

14. In front of me, no less. After he was in custody. Boohoohoo!

That's OK though. I may be 12 years old but I'm a terrorist disguised as a child.

:sarcasm:

[dionysus]

20. every time you say "but I'm a terrorist disguised as a child." it weakens your strawman further....

[tabasco]

34. Waaaaaah!!! Boohoohoo!

No sarcasm.

[aquart]

13. Slaughtered him while he was unarmed and helpless?

WONDERFUL! I hope that entitled rich boy pig was terrified. I am sincerely sorry that they didn't make a decent attempt to put three thousand bullets in him. Starting at his toes.

[coalition_unwilling]

17. Yeah, and abova all be sure to do it in front of his 12-year-old daughter.

Because everyone knows she's a terrorist too, disguised as a child.

:sarcasm:

[aquart]

56. How many children were on those planes?

No, I don't give a damn about his daughter. I hope he didn't make her spend five years in a single room like his wife is saying she had to.

But her trauma is the least of my concerns. The family has money. They can deal with it.

I don't appreciate his daughter being used as a human shield by propagandists who need to believe this execution was wrong or unwarranted, however.

[spanone]

16. dupe dupe dupe dupe

[enlightenment]

19. Wow. This thread would fit right in on

FR.

yuck.

[aquart]

21. HOW MANY CHILDREN WERE ON THOSE PLANES?

Maybe someday someone will tell her. And you.

[cliffordu]

If Bin Laden loved his children or his wives he would have stayed the fuck away from them.

Apparently he could have given a fuck that the US wanted to run a J-DAM up his ass since his daughter was 2....


Fuck me. LET'S JUST TAKE ALL THE FUCKING BLAME FOR EVERYTHING ALL THE TIME.

Nevermind, You'll NEVER be happy.

[Mz Pip]

32. Here's a memo to terrorists:

Don't bring your family into your bunker or your foxhole or your compound.

He was hiding out with his kid. So yeah, she might have seen him killed. But that's his fault, not ours.

[cliffordu]

37. Exactly.

[cliffordu]

22. duplicate rant. nevermind.

Ap

[Honeycombe8]

27. Hogwash.

If they had orders to kill, exterminate, execute, assassinate, or whatever, they wouldn't capture him to begin with. And even if they had, they wouldn't need to shoot him several times to kill him, if they had him in their custody.

If it doesn't make sense, it's not true.

The Seals knew what they were doing. They were there to kill, and they did.

[notadmblnd]

30. "Dead or Alive". bush said it himself Sept 17th 2001

[flamingdem]

31. Well if she's lucky she might get to learn to read now nt

[backscatter712]

33. You say that like it's a bad thing...

The only regret is that Osama's death was far too quick. He should have suffered exquisitely.

[coalition_unwilling]

36. And in front of his 12-year-old daughter, just to drive the point home

to any terrorist disguised as a child.

:sarcasm:

[lunasun]

40. more like a terrorist group's tool disguised as a child i call BS on her story

they can say what they want to contradict the footage that was filmed for sympathy and rage to whoever will listen

[coalition_unwilling]

45. My sarcasm is wasted. The age of satire is dead. Go ahead and

call BS on the story of a 12-year-old girl who may have witnessed first-hand her father's violent death. I shall pray for your soul but regret we can have no further discourse.

[WildEyedLiberal]

52. You talk about this situation as if he was a loving father

Given the way OBL's brand of perverted "Islam" views women, I think you're assuming a hell of a lot. Her life was very likely far worse than the lives of the children raised in those horrific FLDS compounds, and that's horrifying enough. If you really care about this 12 year old girl - and I mean really care about her and not just using her to make your angst-ridden political point - then you should be happy she has a ghost of a chance at a normal life now instead of being an illiterate slave concubine to be auctioned off at her sociopathic homophobic misogynist mass murdering evil fundamentalist father's whim.

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[NYC Liberal]

35. Good riddance. nt

[agentS]

38. At least we didn't shoot the kids

That would be really fucked up. But, at least on this day, we were better than the terrorists.
Now, if we had gone thru with the drone strike, there would not be a little girl to talk about what happened. There would just be a pile of rubble and bones.

So sorry to see your father get killed by Navy Seals, but look at it this way- they didn't shoot you. That's a bit of mercy your father did not grant the many Muslim victims of his organization after 9/11.

[coalition_unwilling]

44. Oy vey. "At least we didn't shoot the kids." We adhere to such

high standards. No, we just shot the father IN FRONT OF HIS KID! Obviously, the kid deserved to witness her father's death first-hand, because she's really just a terrorist disguised as a child.

:sarcasm:

[EC]

39. Well yeah.

I really doubt they found him dead and then shot him.

[seabeyond]

42. except all the blood is in the bedroom where they confronted him.... we have seen the pictures. nt

[Quixote1818]

54. That is exactly what I was thinking too. nt

[Cali_Democrat]

49. I don't know....there's something about executing a father in front of his children....

that doesn't seem right. Couldn't they have waited until the children weren't in view to execute him?

[coalition_unwilling]

51. You have a delicious talent for the art of the understatement. Or maybe

tbat's a talent for the art of the delicious understatement :)

Executing a parent in front of his child is so 16 Century (Shakespeare and Marlowe would have revelled in dramatizing such.)

As one DUer noted, in attempting to rationalize the unspeakable, "At least we didn't shoot the kids."

I guess there's that, eh?

[grahamhgreen]

50. K&R

Not necessarily true, however.

[admonish]

57. she could be telling the truth

they may have considering taking him alive (but only to get some answers). it could also be argued that this "mission" is illegal, but what is absolutely not in question is the fact this was a kill mission....wanted: dead or alive