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ProfessionalLeftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 12:23 PM
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A Republican just said to me that he didn't feel safe...
Edited on Fri May-06-11 12:24 PM by ProfessionalLeftist
....with Obama as President because "Obama only killed bin Laden to get re-elected". This statement is wrong on so many levels...I don't even know where to begin.

You can't fix stupid. :shrug:


Edited to add quotes to dumbass Republican's comment.
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SDuderstadt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 12:24 PM
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1. Nor should you...
try.
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 12:26 PM
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2. I once had an "R" proclaim with an entirely straight face that
he was so grateful Bush was in the WH on 9/11 and I should be too. You're right. You can't even begin to address this. It makes no sense.
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ieoeja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 12:46 PM
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24. Did you remind him that Bush repeatedly mocked Gore's assertion that terrorism was a serious threat?
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 02:08 PM
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25. My response was something along the lines of, "I have no idea
Edited on Fri May-06-11 02:10 PM by LibDemAlways
what you are talking about. The man ignored important warnings and then sat and continued to read a kid's book when told the nation was under attack. Then he proceeded to fly around the country like a big chicken. And when he returned to the WH he and the missus admitted to having a chuckle that night over what a crazy day it had been." I further told him to go to the PNAC website and read about "the new Pearl Harbor" advocated by the chimp's neocon buddies.

That shut him up.
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ieoeja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 02:24 PM
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29. 9/11 was the day I stopped thinking 1984 was the stupidest book ever written.

I couldn't imagine people could forget everything just to support their side.

And the weird thing is, many really, actually did. I responded as I suggested to everyone who said it to me, and every single one of them replied, "you're right; I completely forgot about that."


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demwing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 12:26 PM
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3. Yeah, avoid beginning that conversation
it's founded on teh stupid, and will go downhill from there.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 12:27 PM
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4. And the difference is that Dubya, to get reelected, gave OBL a free pass.
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ProfessionalLeftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 12:33 PM
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9. Dubya walked right by him in Tora Bora...
...and claimed he didn't care where he was in 2002.

I guess it was the image of Duhbya trotting out on the aircraft carrier in the flight suit with his junk practically hanging out, and a "Mission Accomplished" sign in the background after invading and occupying the wrong country (which had nothing to do with 9/11) that made them feel safe.

Pfft.

Chronic. Stupid.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 02:21 PM
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27. No Dubya played the Bin Laden 'fear' tape
just before the 2004 elections
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 12:27 PM
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5. "You can't fix stupid"
That's right.

So how do we combat it?

How do we protect ourselves from it?

You can't reason with these people so how do we defeat them?
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 12:30 PM
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6. Show them this...



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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 12:32 PM
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8. You really think that'll change their minds?
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 12:40 PM
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16. No. But if they throw the first punch, you can sue them :) n/t
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 12:32 PM
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7. LOL. Stupid idiots.
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 12:33 PM
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10. If he had done this to be re-elected, he would have done it closer to the election
Not 18 months before the election.
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ProfessionalLeftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 12:36 PM
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14. Uh yea....
...for one thing.

For another, I'm pretty sure Obama didn't just arbitrarily choose this mission (which was a prime objective for the last two administrations as well even if not for bu$hit himself) the same way he chooses what speech to recite or what suit to wear - just to get re-elected.

:wtf:
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LeftinOH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 12:33 PM
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11. That's unspeakably stupid; welcome to "Bizarro" world.
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Avant Guardian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 12:34 PM
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12. Tell that person they are scared because they are a coward
Conservatives are driven by fear. Liberals are driven by optimism.
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ProfessionalLeftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 12:41 PM
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17. Yes the guy went on with a terrified missive about how afraid
he was about 'these extremists' and how dangerous they are.

Hell, we have extremists in the US who are just as dangerous: skinheads, militia groups, etc. The fact is no President can 'make you feel safe' - if you're driven by fear. No matter who they are. No matter what they do.

Further, if bin Laden was planning an "anniversary" strike on the rail system on the 10th anniversary of 9/11, Obama just may have thwarted that attack by nailing bin Laden. But that doesn't register in the pea-brain of a Republican, somehow.

:eyes:


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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 02:12 PM
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26. I have a friend who is planning a trip to Italy next month. She
e-mailed me this AM to ask my opinion of whether or not she should cancel because of the possibility of terrorism in the wake of Bin Laden's demise. I told her she has more to fear from being felt up by TSA than by any boogeymen terrorists.

R's sure are an easily frightened bunch.
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ProfessionalLeftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 04:11 PM
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30. I agree with what you told her. n/t
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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 12:36 PM
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13. He's just jealous because;
President Obama succeeded where bush failed.

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ProfessionalLeftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 12:45 PM
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23. If Drinky Dumbass had somehow managed to nail binLaden in spite of himself
I wonder if Mr. GOTealiban would have the same opinion of bu$h - that he did it 'just to get re-elected'?

I'm guessing not.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 12:36 PM
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15. So, for the free market to work, it's OK to get good results through selfish motives
But that doesn't work in this case?

Jackass doesn't even understand his own philosophy.

Clearly, his claim is false. But even if we accepted that it was true, the GOPer that believes in the free market should see no problem with Obama producing a good social result through purely selfish motivations. That's the whole premise of the Republican ideology, after all.
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ProfessionalLeftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 12:42 PM
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20. Excellent point
The inconsistency in their philosophy is quite interesting.
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northoftheborder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 12:42 PM
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18. A soldier was killed in Iraq early in the war, from a small town in Texas. His mother...
....spoke at the memorial held in the football stadium. She told the audience she was grateful that GWB was president, and admonished everyone to NOT vote for Kerry. (this was during the 2004 election).:-( :crazy: :shrug: :banghead:
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ProfessionalLeftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 12:43 PM
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21. No shortage of Stupid in this country. n/t
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 12:42 PM
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19. He can always move to Somalia
I heard they're looking for Americans to pack their boats offshore.
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mulsh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 12:45 PM
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22.  President Obama succeeded where bush failed.
that's all you need to say to any random republican.
posted earlier her on DU

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1052015

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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 02:23 PM
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28. He feels unsafe because he's crossed from cynical and into paranoid. n/t
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 05:48 PM
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31. Morning joe panel refuses to acknowledge that Obama's ...
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