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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-11 10:51 PM Original message |
Every time you give in, it becomes all that easier to give in the next time |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-11 10:53 PM Response to Original message |
1. CORRECT |
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RandomThoughts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-11 10:55 PM Response to Original message |
2. I havn't backed down to any fight. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-11 10:57 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Well hey, we're going to need everybody to fight, in whatever way they can |
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RandomThoughts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-11 11:02 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. Same to you. |
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notesdev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-11 10:56 PM Response to Original message |
3. You're about to get a real crisis |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-11 10:59 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. That is going to be the yammering point, |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-11 11:01 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. The Rethugs hold the House, and I think there ARE plenty of them |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-11 11:06 PM Response to Reply #7 |
14. Then you really don't know how politics work |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-11 11:06 PM Response to Reply #6 |
15. Are you kidding me? They've already taken us over the cliff. |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-11 11:08 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. seriously, and the corporations are doing just fine rebounding.... |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-11 11:17 PM Response to Reply #15 |
23. You think we've gone over a cliff now? |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 12:05 AM Response to Reply #23 |
67. How many boulders we were going to hit on the way down was unspecified. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-11 10:59 PM Response to Original message |
5. There would have been no benefit to them to back down. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-11 11:03 PM Response to Reply #5 |
10. Again, Obama had an ace that he could have played, |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-11 11:05 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. Paying for the UI extension out of left over stimulus funds wouldn't have prevented families at |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-11 11:15 PM Response to Reply #12 |
20. Oh puleeze Vulcan, stop trying to pull that Keynesian economics card out |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-11 11:16 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. I'm sure you would like it if I stoped debunking economic quackery. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-11 11:18 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. No, actually I'd like you to stop spreading economic quackery, |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-11 11:20 PM Response to Reply #24 |
28. Well in that case, you're in luck, since it hasn't happened. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-11 11:23 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. And yet you continue to refuse that tax cuts are the least effective form of economic stimulus going |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-11 11:31 PM Response to Reply #31 |
39. Actually, I've admitted that tax cuts are the least effective form of stimulus multiple times. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-11 11:35 PM Response to Reply #39 |
43. Then either you don't know many economists, |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-11 11:42 PM Response to Reply #43 |
52. Care to point out a single progressive economist that believes the 2-year package that actually |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-11 11:48 PM Response to Reply #52 |
58. Perhaps you should go look at why those things I mentioned are coming about |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-11 11:49 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. Still waiting for a single progressive economist that agrees that the economic impact of the bill |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-11 11:56 PM Response to Reply #59 |
63. Surely you go look at what is happening with Moody's and our status as reserve currency |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 12:08 AM Response to Reply #63 |
69. Here's what Stephen Hess (the economist in your article) said the day the package came out: |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 02:05 AM Response to Reply #69 |
72. *crickets* |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 07:09 AM Response to Reply #72 |
74. Yeah, some of us have to go to bed and sleep once in a while |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 08:49 PM Response to Reply #74 |
82. you can;t guess why anyoe would be on a different schedule than you? |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 07:33 AM Response to Reply #69 |
78. And do you honestly think that this extension is temporary? |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 09:55 PM Response to Reply #78 |
83. Actually, Krugman/DeLong/etc agree that the problem is too LITTLE money being printed, not too much. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-11 11:35 PM Response to Reply #10 |
42. That's the card the Rethugs WANTED him to play. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-11 11:37 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. The compromise is a "stimulus bill" |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-11 11:05 PM Response to Reply #5 |
13. Bingo, thank you. |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-11 11:01 PM Response to Original message |
8. Ah, but part of the problem for those against Obama is that they already threatened to enable a |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-11 11:11 PM Response to Reply #8 |
18. Another who is willing to the elderly and disabled kicked into the street, |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-11 11:14 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. At least I'm not willing to enable Republicans in the voting booth who will privatize SS and |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-11 11:19 PM Response to Reply #19 |
26. Umm, what do you think that the Dems are going to do if we don't stop them? |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-11 11:23 PM Response to Reply #26 |
33. Why do you act like you have the power to stop them? |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-11 11:27 PM Response to Reply #33 |
37. Again with the President Palin shit, |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-11 11:32 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. Perhaps if you want me to stop bringing her up, you should stop threatening to enable her election? |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-11 11:38 PM Response to Reply #40 |
46. You're the only one talking President Palin. |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-11 11:44 PM Response to Reply #46 |
55. You are talking about enabling her election, regardless of whether you mention her by name. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-11 11:50 PM Response to Reply #55 |
61. No, I'm not |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-11 11:53 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. "suffer repercussions the next time they stand for election" |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-11 11:58 PM Response to Reply #62 |
64. *GASP* OMG! I just advocated for. . .for. . .for. . . |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 12:09 AM Response to Reply #64 |
70. So you would vote for Obama if he won the primary? n/t |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 07:15 AM Response to Reply #70 |
75. Right now, no, probably not |
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U4ikLefty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 12:08 AM Response to Reply #37 |
68. Love that last sentence. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-11 11:38 PM Response to Reply #26 |
47. How do you plan to "stop" the Democrats? n/t |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-11 11:40 PM Response to Reply #47 |
50. Thought I explained that in the OP, |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-11 11:45 PM Response to Reply #50 |
56. I read your OP twice and there's nothing in there that answers |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-11 11:59 PM Response to Reply #56 |
65. No, actually I want you to read and open your mind, and understand |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-11 11:40 PM Response to Reply #18 |
49. Why are you posting on a Democratic site when you continually |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-11 11:42 PM Response to Reply #49 |
53. Why do you keep acting like the loyalty police |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-11 11:36 PM Response to Reply #8 |
44. LOL. n/t |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-11 11:04 PM Response to Original message |
11. We will fight them! Every one of them! Somebody better get a clue. |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-11 11:06 PM Response to Original message |
16. I agree. |
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jaxx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-11 11:17 PM Response to Original message |
22. PRESIDENT OBAMA didn't cave, he got what he went after. |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-11 11:19 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. Perhaps you missed |
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jaxx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-11 11:22 PM Response to Reply #25 |
30. I didn't miss anything. |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-11 11:23 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. Oh. |
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jaxx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-11 11:26 PM Response to Reply #32 |
36. Was that smart? |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-11 11:20 PM Response to Reply #22 |
29. Oh, you again |
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jaxx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-11 11:25 PM Response to Reply #29 |
35. Yes, and you were wrong then too. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-11 11:29 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. Really, I was wrong |
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jaxx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-11 11:33 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. I will profit? |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-11 11:39 PM Response to Reply #41 |
48. Oh, Olberman is under the bus now |
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jaxx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-11 11:46 PM Response to Reply #48 |
57. About my profits? |
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unapatriciated (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 08:27 AM Response to Reply #48 |
80. +1000 |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-11 11:42 PM Response to Reply #29 |
51. Right, you think Obama should have done what the Rethugs told him to -- |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-11 11:19 PM Response to Original message |
27. Even if rolling over didn't diminish the roller it certainly encourages the bully |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-11 11:24 PM Response to Reply #27 |
34. Thank you, |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-11 11:44 PM Response to Original message |
54. knr n/t |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-03-11 11:49 PM Response to Original message |
60. We need to act on Dems "by force and threat"? What is that supposed to mean? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 12:00 AM Response to Reply #60 |
66. Deleted message |
pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 12:19 AM Response to Reply #66 |
71. "Force" often implies physical threat. I don't know you and I can't read your mind. n/t |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 07:17 AM Response to Reply #71 |
76. So instead you just assume the worst and proceed from there, |
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anAustralianobserver (440 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 02:17 AM Response to Original message |
73. MadHound knows how to regulate his own thread haha |
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mstinamotorcity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 07:18 AM Response to Original message |
77. Then you need to move to |
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pecwae (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 08:09 AM Response to Original message |
79. Recced for the subject line |
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unapatriciated (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-04-11 08:33 AM Response to Original message |
81. k&r |
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