People who claim to be Democrats but threaten to vote third-party, I call them "Palin Democrats".

[LoZoccolo]

[Incitatus]

1. ok

[blondeatlast]

2. OK. nt

[BlueCaliDem]

3. Or Fairweather Democrats. But why Palin Democrats? eom

[LoZoccolo]

4. Because they claim they would let Sarah Palin win the presidency.

[Cali_Democrat]

7. They claim that?

How so? Who does?

[blondeatlast]

9. +1, with links. I don't believe it for a moment. nt

[LoZoccolo]

10. Because 50 - 1 = 49.

[BlueCaliDem]

13. Got it! lol Well, some people do like to cut their nose to spite their face

It's self-defeating, but very helpful to the Repubic Party.

I was debating one on Huffpo who claimed she was a card-carrying Democrat for 26 years...but decided to join the TeaBaggers. Um...how do you go from being a Democrat to a TeaBagger? Don't you become either an Independent or Republican first?

When she claimed she joined the TeaBaggers because she's concerned about the state of this country, that it was about jobs, the deficit, spending, blah-blah-blah, I listed why she was never a Democrat, because if she were, she would've known the choice she made was as stupid as Palin.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

24. They who? Source.

[madville]

5. So would that mean that R's who vote third party are Obama Republicans?

nt

[LoZoccolo]

6. I think some Republicans might think so.

[mmonk]

8. I call New Democrats old Republicans.

But name calling isn't going to get us anywhere.

[Electric Monk]

11. edit: nevermind

I wasn't as witty as I first thought I was...

[mmonk]

12. Eisenhower was actually more liberal than many Democrats today.

But clearly the New Democrat movement comes more philosophically from the Republican Party (without the tea party nutjobs) tradition. I'm convinced that is why change was so hard even when we had both Houses of Congress and the Presidency.

[mmonk]

15. Actually I liked the quote.

:)

[Electric Monk]

19. ok, reposting that part

Don't join the book burners. Do not think you are going to conceal thoughts by concealing evidence that they ever existed. - Dwight D. Eisenhower

more

http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/d/dwight_d_eisenhower.html

[mmonk]

20. .

:thumbsup:

[tkmorris]

14. Well this certainly changes everything

I'm sure using that moniker on 'em will bring 'em around tout de suite. Well done!

[blondeatlast]

16. ...

:thumbsup::rofl:

[Cant trust em]

17. Dude, let it go. You're not helping whatever you're trying to help. nt

[PurityOfEssence]

18. That Postman's leg looks really tasty

I say you give it a try...

[Lil Missy]

21. I'll alert the media. n/t

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[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

23. IBTL

[Avant Guardian]

25. Why?

[Raine]

26. eh

:boring:

[bluestate10]

27. Baffles me why some think setting their cause back 30 years by voting

a third party that has no fucking realistic chance of winning is being true to principles. What principles, repeatedly and viciously hitting one upside the head with a brick? Now, a request will be made to ban you for calling out a DU member, even if you did not name one.

[Tesha]

29. The problem (as has been mentioned thousands of times before)...

...is that our party, since at least the formation of
the DLC by Clinton and others, has been on a steady
march to the Right. They claim that this allows them
to win elections.

We claim that this makes the elections meaningless
since we're still getting the policies that Republicans
would have supported only a few decades ago.

This situation cannot continue. At some point, the
Democrats must stop moving Rightwards or their
existence itself becomes meaningless. But the
Party doesn't respond to gentle persuasion so at
some point, the democratic (sic) electorate will be
forced to use the only weapon available that is likely
to actually be noticed by the Democratic Party leadership:
the denial of votes.

I believ 2010 was the first real rumblings of this. And
I don't believe that 2012 will see a quieting of those
rumblings. Certainly Obama's not doing anything to
satisfy/pacify the Left.

Tesha

[LoZoccolo]

30. Do you think the 2010 rumblings were good for Wisconsin and Michigan?

[Tesha]

37. Of course not.

They weren't good for my own New Hampshire, either.

But neither is the steady Rightward drift of the Democrats
good for any of those places either.

As someone said, would you rather be slowly killed or just
have it all over in one fell swoop? That's the choice we're
being offered by the choice between the ever-more-Republican
Democrats and the ever-batshit-crazier genuine Republicans.

Ultimately, there's got to be a change. And either way, there's
likely to be a lot more pain before it gets better.

Tesha

[Electric Monk]

69. It's better than not voting at all, isn't it? nt

[Hannah Bell]

28. unrec for baiting

[JTFrog]

31. from the master

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

42. Ahh but the servant waits. While the master baits.

:evilgrin:

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[cordelia]

32. OK

[Bluenorthwest]

33. The real and countable problem are those who claim to be

Democrats who actually vote for Republican candidates and issues when they want to. The 'Reagan Democrats' they have been called or 'moderate centrists'. These are the 'Democrats' who run from a candidate who is 'too liberal' and vote for the GOP, these are the 'Democrats' whose votes elected Arnold in CA and then passed Prop 8. Take a look at how many people voted both for Obama and Prop 8, then look at how many voted for a 'third party' and get your priorities in line. The folks I am speaking of elected Reagan twice while claiming to be Democrats.

[Le Taz Hot]

34. I'm sure they have a few names for you, too.

Me? I'm not a Democrat so I can vote however I choose. Call me whatever you want but I'm free of the shackles of being forced to vote for someone just because they have a specific letter next to their name. I call that freedom.

[IDemo]

35. Sorry, but the Palin voodoo doll isn't threatening anymore

And that's assuming it ever was to begin with.

[dionysus]

36. dooga dooga dooga

:eyes:

[xphile]

39. I am a registered Democrat and I will vote any damn way I choose.

Your sense of entitlement is appalling. If Democrats want to make sure voters don't vote for a third party. Act like a Democrat. Get a spine. Fight for what you claim to believe in. Caving in to Republicans and expecting people to vote for you then complaining about it is just pathetic.

[Iggo]

41. I'm not a Democrat, and I vote a straight Dem ticket.

Every time.

[socialist_n_TN]

44. +1 and welcome to DU.........

nm

[LoZoccolo]

46. I'm an American and the constitution allows free speech.

[Johonny]

40. That's stupid, Palin isn't even in a third party.

[LoZoccolo]

45. This is my favorite response so far.

[DainBramaged]

47. This is a call out thread of Democrats

[LoZoccolo]

48. It is against the rules to support voting for third parties.

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[LoZoccolo]

51. Is it against the rules to call out Republicans?

[DainBramaged]

52. Are you calling Dem's who don't pass your purity test Republicans?

Who do you think you are? Why do you think that you and you alone can purge the DU membership of those you deem unworthy?

[LoZoccolo]

54. Is it against the rules to call out Republicans?

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[Evoman]

49. I just call them "fed up".

There are people who have been Democratic Party members for decades who have been frustrated with the leadership ever since Bill Clinton came on the scene. The attacking of labor, the attack on social programs, etc...these all have ramifications on party loyalty. And they should....a party is meant to represent the interests of it's supporters, not the other way around.

Calling them "Palin" democrats just alienates more people, when you should be trying to renew their interest. It's counter-productive.

[Joe Fields]

53. News flash....voting is irrelevant. When will you realize that unless you

are wealthy, it doesn't matter how you vote?

[JackRiddler]

55. Your bright move will surely swing the election.

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[LoZoccolo]

64. Where do I say anything about trapping people?

[Electric Monk]

68. Here

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=439&topic_id=652852

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=439&topic_id=1131209&mesg_id=1131258

[LoZoccolo]

71. Where do I say anything about trapping people into breaking the rules?

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

60. What do you call Democratic politicians who vote with Republicans?

And/or cave-in to Republican demands?

[LoZoccolo]

62. There are neither Democrats in name only, nor pure Democrats, that I have found.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

67. Wouldn't it be more accurate to call Democrats who support Republican policies "Palin" Democrats?

After all, they are the ones actually "enabling" the Republicans. Not the 3rd party voters.

[LoZoccolo]

73. No.

[robertpaulsen]

61. People who claim to be Democrats but support conservative policies, I call them "Fascist Enablers".

Unless, of course, that "Democrat" decides to register with the Republican Party. Then I would just call that person a straight-out Fascist.

[LoZoccolo]

63. I have never been presented with a Democrat who always votes with Republicans.

[robertpaulsen]

70. If "always" is your criteria, you've set the bar too high for Fascist Enablers to operate underneath

I say lower the bar to squash those fascist tendencies. Switch "always" to most of the time, or even half of the time. You'll find quite a few "Democrats" who fall within that category ripe for a primary challenge in 2012. So make sure you keep your Democratic Party registration current if you want to participate in keeping the Democratic Party the way it should be: true blue liberal!

[LoZoccolo]

74. In any case I've seen, there is some advantage to voting Democratic.

[Zorra]

65. Seriously? There are actually more than a few of them. Here's one:

http://www.zimbio.com/Joe+Lieberman

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[leeroysphitz]

76. Guess what we call you...