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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 07:31 AM
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Rapture Ready: The Science of Self Delusion
from Mother Jones:




"A MAN WITH A CONVICTION is a hard man to change. Tell him you disagree and he turns away. Show him facts or figures and he questions your sources. Appeal to logic and he fails to see your point." So wrote the celebrated Stanford University psychologist Leon Festinger (PDF), in a passage that might have been referring to climate change denial—the persistent rejection, on the part of so many Americans today, of what we know about global warming and its human causes. But it was too early for that—this was the 1950s—and Festinger was actually describing a famous case study in psychology.

Festinger and several of his colleagues had infiltrated the Seekers, a small Chicago-area cult whose members thought they were communicating with aliens—including one, "Sananda," who they believed was the astral incarnation of Jesus Christ. The group was led by Dorothy Martin, a Dianetics devotee who transcribed the interstellar messages through automatic writing.

Through her, the aliens had given the precise date of an Earth-rending cataclysm: December 21, 1954. Some of Martin's followers quit their jobs and sold their property, expecting to be rescued by a flying saucer when the continent split asunder and a new sea swallowed much of the United States. The disciples even went so far as to remove brassieres and rip zippers out of their trousers—the metal, they believed, would pose a danger on the spacecraft.

Festinger and his team were with the cult when the prophecy failed. First, the "boys upstairs" (as the aliens were sometimes called) did not show up and rescue the Seekers. Then December 21 arrived without incident. It was the moment Festinger had been waiting for: How would people so emotionally invested in a belief system react, now that it had been soundly refuted? ...............(more)

The complete piece is at: http://motherjones.com/politics/2011/03/denial-science-chris-mooney




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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 07:37 AM
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1. Nobody has refuted my belief system.
Edited on Sat May-21-11 07:38 AM by RandomThoughts
Why is that? Then again I learn over time, and my beliefs grow over time.

Ahh, I know, I don't say I know for sure, or make predictions or anything like that.
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FLPanhandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 07:40 AM
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2. You have to look no further than our own 9/11 forum to see that in action
The internet really helps to validate insane beliefs (although those doing the validating are also insane).
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 07:48 AM
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3. The American electorate really helps to validate insane beliefs - n/t
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-11 07:59 AM
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4. And this is why....
I roll my eyes in frustration when apparently sane DUers post asking others for suggestions on how they can refute the arguments of their RW friends/coworkers/family.

They want to know what there is that will change the minds of these people.

The answer is...

Not a fucking thing.

Don't even bother. They wanna talk themselves blue in the face? Go right ahead. It won't matter. They'll just convince their opponents even more that their crazy opinions are RIGHT.


It's like arguing with a drunk. Or someone with dementia.

Completely and totally pointless except as an exercise in frustration.

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