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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 09:22 PM
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75% of Joplin is gone. Just now on CNN.
Wow. This is just horrific.

4 dead at the hospital.

24 total dead so far.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 09:22 PM
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1. Good Lord!
:(
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 09:26 PM
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2. horrible :(
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The Wielding Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 12:12 PM
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139. Just in. Sadly, 90 dead. Still looking for people under rubble.
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 09:26 PM
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3. 75%?
It seems like too much. It's hard to believe.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 09:31 PM
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7. I'm having a hard time with that too
But the more I listen to the scanner, the more I realize how bad this storm was. http://www.radioreference.com/apps/audio/?action=wp&feedId=2798
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 09:34 PM
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9. I have an old classmate down there.
No one's heard from them yet. People all over facebook asking them to call, offering places to stay all over the state for him, his in-laws, and his wife's cousins down there. There's been no response, even those who have called him. No response whatsoever.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 09:38 PM
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11. Oh no.
My friend just found her cousin. He works at the hospital. :scared:
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 09:39 PM
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14. Her cousin is ok, right?
The classmate should turn up eventually. He's lived through too much as it is.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 09:42 PM
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21. Yes he's okay
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 09:47 PM
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28. Good.
Too many others down there. I don't even know where to begin.
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theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 10:21 PM
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54. The lines are down
I know you are worried but all power is out, lines are down and most cell service out of operation, too. Hopefully they are fine and on their way to a shelter, and simply can't contact anyone right now.
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 11:07 PM
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92. That's what everyone is hoping for.
I'm sure a few will keep trying throughout the night to contact them and will let everyone know when contact is made. I know a couple have already stated that they'll drive down and get them.
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trud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 01:13 PM
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147. after Loma Prieta
I couldn't get a dial tone for two hours or more.
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catrose Donating Member (591 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 12:38 PM
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143. Red Cross can look for missing people
And people can register themselves with Red Cross to let their relatives know that they are safe.
Twitter
Red Cross Safe&Well
@safeandwell USA

Web
Register yourself at http://www.redcross.org/safeandwell
http://redcrosschat.org

Phone:
Call 1-800-RED CROSS (1-800-733-2767) to look for someone or register yourself.

Of course, if you have phone and internet access, maybe you could just call your relatives, but in Katrina, we saw cases of people who didn't have chargers, electricity, or cell towers nearby, and they couldn't call their loved ones immediately.

When I was with Red Cross 10 years ago, I encouraged anyone who walked in a shelter or service center to register, even if they weren't staying, because Red Cross used those registration lists to assure searchers of their safety (without giving a lot of personal information like "and they're at this location!").

It's part of our family's disaster plan, if we're separated, to notify Red Cross.


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Keith Bee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 10:28 PM
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60. Yes
Is the 75% figure from CNN itself?
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 11:40 PM
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97. I've heard that it was from CNN
but have also heard that it's unknown at this time.
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Broken_Hero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 12:06 AM
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106. I heard the 75% from a Red Cross
spokeswoman, who was on CNN. From what I've seen via footage, a good portion of the city has been affected.
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Melinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 09:26 PM
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4. Oh those poor people....
I am so sorry to learn this. Many prayers for Joplin and her people tonight :cry:
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Sky Masterson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 09:28 PM
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5. :(
My poor state.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 01:43 PM
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153.  .....................
if this helps at all :hug:
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 09:30 PM
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6. "Major gasleak at Jackson"
They're asking for schoolbuses.
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 09:32 PM
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8. K&R
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Strelnikov_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 09:35 PM
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10. Google Map, the (A) upper Rt. is the Wal-Mart, destroyed
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 09:38 PM
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12. "27 DOAs" at a nursing home.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 09:39 PM
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13. OMG
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Harmony Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 09:41 PM
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20. This was a terrible tornado
Normally, they (tornadoes) drop down, and hit at some spots randomly, but this tornado leveled everything. :(
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RayOfHope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 09:45 PM
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25. And it was 'rain wrapped' so it couldn't be seen because of the rain :( Not much warning :( n/t
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Adenoid_Hynkel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 11:07 PM
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91. sounds like the big one that hit in Kansas a few years ago
Hope most were able to get to safety
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 09:40 PM
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17. Is that the one asking for blankets?
And 27? Wow.
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 10:06 PM
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39. Just 7, I think
I'm listening on the scanner.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 10:18 PM
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52. I like your number better.
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theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 10:23 PM
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56. At least 4 dead at the hospital
Eyewitness said one patient, a very large man, was literally blown out of a window. Top of the hospital is gone.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 10:48 PM
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81. But the building is still there. Why?
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NotThisTime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 12:24 PM
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140. All the windows blew out and there were fires in that building, I assume that's why some died in
that building. The whole Joplin situation is far beyond tragic :(
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 10:11 AM
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171. But any building that survives, I want to know how and why.
If this is the new norm, we need completely different building codes and structures.
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aroach Donating Member (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 02:39 AM
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112. We have family in that nursing home that we cannot find.
My mother went to look for her at the shelter they sent the survivors to. She was not there. Doesn't bode well.
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renate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 11:10 AM
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137. I'm sorry
:hug:

I hope you get good news... meanwhile, the waiting must be excruciating.
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aroach Donating Member (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 12:27 PM
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141. Still can't find her.
Alice Cope was in the Greenbrier nursing home which was completely destroyed.
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aroach Donating Member (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 02:40 AM
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113. Greenbrier
It is Greenbrier nursing home and it was completely destroyed.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 01:47 PM
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154. oh my that is so sad.
:-(
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 02:03 PM
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160. Heard folks died in the hospital as well
Al Roker says he has never seen this kind of damage over and over and over again. Says this is as bad as Tuscaloosa.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 09:39 PM
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15. This was on my Facebook a little bit ago
"I just talked to xxxxx and his family is ok but some of the girls from his church work in the Walmart there and it is gone and they not found them yet. So keep praying took the walmart home depot. burger king etc and xxx said town is shut down."
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rainbow4321 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 09:40 PM
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16. Per the scanner link, multiple deaths at a nursing home
Edited on Sun May-22-11 09:40 PM by rainbow4321
And a morgue :( :( has been set up "MSSU" (?). They are also referring to Home Depot as "what WAS Home Depot"

St John's has set up a triage center at a school.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 09:43 PM
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23. MO Southern University
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 09:45 PM
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24. Missouri Southern State University.
It's part of the state system.

St Johns' probably set it up at MSSU. I think they have a nursing major at the school so they would have some equipment and a clinic at least.

http://www.mssu.edu/
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 09:40 PM
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18. National Guard just sent out. Thank god W. Bush is no longer in control.
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 09:43 PM
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22. Amen, that fuck was a natural disaster himself.
PB
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 11:38 PM
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96. No kidding...
...Our entire nation should have received FEMA compensation for damages--just
from having to endure his presidency!

And look at how quick help is dispatched to this community. It took DAYS to get
food and water in to NOLA. Man, that still makes me so angry to think about that!
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 09:40 PM
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19. Is this for real? Wow. I am astonished and aghast! nt
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 09:45 PM
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26. Part of north Minneapolis is flattened, too
but Joplin is especially hard hit because it hit their hospital.

I hope they get fast and adequate help. This is horrible.
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 09:46 PM
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27. Not just the hospital
but most of the town. Reports are that it's devastating.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 12:40 PM
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145. Joplin has (had) two hospitals
Freeman is still standing but must be slammed. Hospitals in Springfield, the next city over, are preparing for the overload.
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 02:28 AM
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168. Springfield is quite a drive from Joplin
An hour at least by I-44, I think.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 09:50 PM
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29. I'm assuming that is Joplin Missouri? Someone upthread talked about Minnesota, so now I am not sure
Confirmation, please.

Thank you.
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MissB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 09:54 PM
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33. Yes, MO.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 10:07 PM
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44. Thanks, MissB
:hi:
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phasma ex machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 11:43 PM
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98. Thanks for clearing that up.
Edited on Sun May-22-11 11:45 PM by phasma ex machina
Edited to remove a stupid question about population easily answered by wiki.
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cordelia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 09:54 PM
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34. You are correct. The northern suburbs of
Minneapolis was hit earlier today, and it seems that Joplin, MO has been very heavily damaged.

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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 10:06 PM
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41. Thank you. I haven't heard the news all day, so I wanted to be sure.
Do you know... was there low-income housing destroyed, like there was in Tuscaloosa?

If so, this will be really horrible, unless the people of the area DEMAND that it be replaced.

:cry:
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cordelia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 10:22 PM
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55. I don't know right now, reports are
preliminary and sketchy. It appears that some medical facilities, including a nursing home, have been heavily damaged or destroyed.

This is horrible. Reports are that destruction is widespread, so I fear that those in low-income housing will be negatively affected. I hope not.


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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 10:42 PM
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76. We don't know what's been destroyed yet.
Reports have been as high as 75% of the city has been destroyed but that could be an exaggeration.

I have a friend who has been job hunting there recently (they actually had a decent economy, compared to the rest of the state). She had looked at places for rent and was shocked at how few seemed to have basements.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 10:55 PM
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85. YEs, early reports are usually erroneous.
As you know, my heart is with those who are poor. They are usually the hardest hit.

This doesn't bode well for them at all... sounds like Tuscaloosa all over again. :cry:
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 10:57 PM
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86. It will be bad.
They've turned the football field into a makeshift morgue.
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pstokely Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 05:26 AM
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120. The ground is too hard
You have to blast the ground to build a basement in that area
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 07:53 AM
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127. Up here it's mostly the new homes that don't
have basements. They all have "safe rooms" instead, which I don't like.

I have friends who drive to my house for storms because I have a basement.
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pstokely Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 08:49 AM
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129. Do your friends just hang out at your house all day when they expect severe weather?
Can they make it to your house in five minutes? I think most recent large houses around here have basements but we don't have hard clay ground. Do you?
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 09:17 AM
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133. Not quite so hard
as the ground down there. Our ground does have a problem with absorption, though. It floods all the time. Not so many crops grown as there are orchards.

If the weather is predicted to be very bad they do come over for a few hours. Otherwise, most live within five minutes drive-two within a five minute walk.

I've noticed the trend around here for more of the "safe room". Builders around here wanted to get homes built as quickly as possible for the military families buying homes and they didn't want to put up with the additional time and expense of a basement. Me, I'd rather have an old house with a small but strong basement.
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 10:28 PM
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61. I get the impression that Minneapolis was mostly power failures and such
Joplin seems to be much worse


We'll know more when daylight comes.
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Raschel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 11:53 PM
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102. Minneapolis had roofs taken off and some houses destroyed. One death.
Edited on Sun May-22-11 11:54 PM by Raschel
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 10:12 PM
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47. Joplin, MO.
It's about a two hour drive from me. I know kids from my church who attend the university there.

Thank goodness school is not in session!
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 10:21 PM
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53. OMG! Were you close enough to see any of this happening?
If the land there is flat enough, it was probably visible from quite a distance.

What a mess!

:hug:
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 10:40 PM
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75. Not me.
Not that close. We're not that flat around here.

We had tornadoes all around us today but nothing actually came close to us. The closest was about 20 miles from us. We've had them in the past but thank goodness it wasn't today.
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Ed Suspicious Donating Member (336 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 09:52 PM
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30. My wife's cousin lives in Joplin.
Hoping all is well. :(
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bighart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 09:13 AM
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132. My daughert lives there as well.
Her apartment complex sustained minor damage, missing siding and shingles, but the one across the street has missing roofs and walls.
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Fuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 09:53 PM
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31. "Didn't know there were so many gay people there", said Pat Robertson.
Good thoughts sent your way Joplin, MO
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TimLighter Donating Member (131 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 10:17 PM
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50. OMG, what an azzhole! Do you have a link to that, I need to
send that to some fundies on Facebook.
TIA
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Fuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 10:43 PM
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77. No, it was obviously a joke.
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 09:53 PM
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32. Not 75%. Found this on a ham operator's site:
Edited on Sun May-22-11 09:58 PM by tblue37
http://www.hamwx.com/

9:34pm False tweets are beginning to flow. For the record, 75% of Joplin is not gone. The population is not 270,000 and there has been no confirmed reports of 100+ deaths

9:18pm More information from storm chaser Jason Foster: http://www.weatherwarrior.net/blog/

9:12pm High School:


9:11pm National Guard is beginning briefing at this time

9:11pm Damage path being reported at least 3 miles long and a mile wide.
BTW, he has some pictures of the damage on his page (as well as a video).





(That looks like it might be the hospital.)





VIDEO:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bu7B4FMKIPQ&feature=player_embedded#at=21


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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 10:10 PM
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45. Your pic #2 IS the hospital. Not a window left.
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 10:18 PM
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51. One week after my daughter was born by C-section, I was still in
Edited on Sun May-22-11 10:18 PM by tblue37
the hospital when a tornado passed through our city and destroyed part of our local K-mart and part of a nearby trailer park. This was in June of 1981.

One young man was killed when the back wall of the K-mart fell on him. Very sad. He was riding his bike and had taken refuge inside the store. (The man happened to be one of my (then) husband college students.)

We new mothers were evacuated into an inner hallway when the sirens went off. The tornado never came close to the hospital, but I remember how scary it was. I can only imagine what the people in that hospital in Joplin must have felt!
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pintobean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 10:54 PM
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84. Here's another view of the hospital
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 01:53 PM
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157. oh god, that is horrible. so sad
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 09:55 PM
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35. I just saw crushed metal where the Walmart was located
Damn! This is some crazy year for tornadoes - I hope people find their folks.
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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 10:34 PM
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69. Scientists are now predicting that these disasters will become common from now on.
due to global warming.
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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 09:02 AM
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130. "Global climate change" more descriptive than global warming.
The phrase "global warming" is used sarcastically every time there have been record winter storms, low temperatures, etc. Actually what we have are weather extremes, so referring to global climate change cuts off the anti-environmentalists' sarcastic comments.

I agree with your post. Weather extremes are becoming "normal". I've experienced hurricanes (east coast), earthquakes (California), flooding (Illinois), a volcanic eruption (island of Montserrat)and tornadoes (Kansas). Tornadoes were the most frightening. You know where the earthquake zones are and potentially active volcanoes are. You get plenty of warning about hurricanes and flooding. But tornadoes strike so quickly and randomly.
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retread Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 12:39 PM
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144. But it IS warming!! So does this mean the pukes have succeeded with "global warming" as they
did with liberal?

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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 01:26 PM
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149. No -- what you have is Global Warming creating these disasters ...
Edited on Mon May-23-11 01:34 PM by defendandprotect
What you were given in "climate change" was from Frank Luntz, GOP propagandist,

who told W to change the name from Global Warming to "climate change."

Global Warming is about HEAT -- "Global Warming" makes that clear.


What is happening with Global Warming is that we have HEATED up the environment --

which in turn creates chaotic weather -- and that is what you are looking at in Joplin

right now.

Global Warming will continue to create INCREASING NUMBERS of Cyclones, Tornados,

Droughts/Floods, Storms, Hurricanes -- and they will all INCREASE IN SEVERITY.

Global Warming is also bringing increasing Earthquakes -- increasing in number and severity.

Earthquakes in turn generate volcanic activity.


Giving you "climate change" is simply switching you over to a different mindset --

making it look as though something "normal" is happening.


There was a 50 year delay in our feeling the effects of Global Warming -- that gave the

oil industry 50 years to lie to the public, confuse and deceive them. During all of that

time rather than the nation reacting to Global Warming, they were conforted by ExxonMobil

propaganda -- tens of billions spent by oil industry on propaganda to misinform!


Note that we are now actually only up to about 1960 in the effects we are feeling --

Imagine all that came after that time--!!


However, keep in mind that scientits knew 100 years ago that human activity was negatively

effecting nature -- trees, etal. And since the 1950's we have known about the reality of

Global Warming caused by humans. The only thing "new" about any of this is the forceful

attempts by the oil industry to create new propaganda to fool and confuse the public.




Here's a little more on how Global Warming and Glacier Melting effect tectonic plates --

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=4837036&mesg_id=4837639
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 01:49 PM
Response to Reply #130
155. Earthquakes and volcanoes are not weather.
Neither are tsunami (they're the result of strong underseas quakes).
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 02:00 PM
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159. Global Warming is bringing more earthquakes -- increasing in number + severity ....
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=4837036&mesg_id=4837639


That was also part of a warning to W by the Pentagon -- telling him the threat of

Global Warming was greater than the threat of terrorism to the nation ---

in the long list of threats which the Pentagon listed ---

more droughts/floods, cyclones, hurricanes, tornados, storms -- they also made

clear EARTHQUAKES -- which was later scrubbed.


And earthquakes in turn generate more volcanic activity --


Time for the nation to wake up from 50 years of ExxonMobil propaganda lies and

decepiton -- which they spent tens of billions of dollar on to confuse and lie

to the public.


As long as the glaciers are still melting, there will be a colling effect --

after that -- NOT!



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ohnoyoudidnt Donating Member (250 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 04:43 PM
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166. There's a theory that the massive amount of weight being shifted by melting ice caps
is causing more quakes.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 01:36 PM
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150. Not only will they be common, but they will increase in number and severity ---
Edited on Mon May-23-11 01:37 PM by defendandprotect
And, DU'ers should know that "Global Warming" being changed to "climate change" was

a bit of work by GOP propagandist Frank Luntz who advised W to change it --


"Global Warming" makes clear that what we are talking about is HEAT --

heating up the atmosphere which creates chaotic weather.

:)


And, sadly, that will also include earthquakes which will increase in number

and severity --

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=4837036&mesg_id=4837639
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icymist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 09:59 PM
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36. On the scanner: Police at the Walmart now. People yelling for help.
Two critical, calling for more help.
http://www.radioreference.com/apps/audio/?feedId=2798
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rainbow4321 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 10:03 PM
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37. Way to go, CNN..Mel Gibson special instead of Joplin coverage?
Well, guess I don't have to worry about clicking back and forth between CNN and The Weather Channel anymore
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theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 10:24 PM
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57. You read my thoughts.
Incredible, isn't it?
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rainbow4321 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 10:33 PM
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67. They showed the commercial for it and I thought
Ah, they probably had the commercial set to run and couldn't change it in time...but, no, next screen up was "viewer discretion advised" and then it started...buh-bye Joplin coverage. And, not to be out done, M$NBC was still running "Caught on Camera".

Screw the MSM who will, no doubt, fly in their A list people *tomorrow* at their own convenience, giving "we care" coverage. No, no, you don't. If you did, you would at least drag in the B or C list people to be on air while you showed Joplin coverage/feed tonight.
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Broken_Hero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 12:05 AM
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103. Ditto that, whats even worse our Local channels
dropped coverage(except rolling ticker) with very minimal excerpts of new weather warnings and what not....
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 07:42 AM
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124. Best coverage was on the Weather Channel.
KC stations had updates online but not as much live yesterday.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 01:49 PM
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156. You wouldn't want people to wake up to Global Warming, would you ... ??
They've been able to hide this for 50 years because of the gap in our feeling

the effects of Global Warming -- and oil industry/ExxonMobil and other corporations

were able to lie to the public and deceive them -

but at this point, we are beginning to feel the major effects --

As the Pentagon warned Bush, Global Warming is a greater threat to the nation than

"terrorism" -

It will bring more droughts/floods, tornados, cyclones, storms, hurricanes --

and earthquakes ... though "earthquakes" was later scrubbed from the memo.

And all of these conditions will strike with more severity.


However, here's some additional info on how Global Warming causes earthquakes --

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=4837036&mesg_id=4837639



The reality of Global Warming is about HEAT -- HEATING the atmosphere which creates

chaoitic weather -- that's why Frank Luntz, GOP propagandist,

advised W to change the name to "climate change."


Oil industry has spent tens of billions to lie to the public about Global Warming over the

decades --

The effects we are feeling now only reflect human activity up to about 1960 --

Imagine all that happened after that time!!






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icymist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 10:05 PM
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38. People looting from the back of over-turned semis.
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Adenoid_Hynkel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 11:04 PM
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89. Impossible! Rush says only minorities in places like New Orleans loot
White middle Americans in his home state do no such thing

http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2008/06/19/limbaugh-katrina-floods/
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kath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 11:45 PM
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99. Terrible -while in Japan, not only was there no (or minimal) looting after the quake/tsunami, but
people all over the place were turning in money that they had found.
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virgogal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 10:06 PM
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40. OMG.that's awful.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 10:07 PM
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42. I heard on the local EMS radio feed that one local nursing home had 7 DOAs.
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 10:07 PM
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43. Holy crap!
Prayers and wishes out to them....
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 10:11 PM
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46. EMS reports people trapped in the Elks lodge building, shouts for help heard.
Edited on Sun May-22-11 10:14 PM by kestrel91316
Also reporting a major gas leak right there and at least one 10-7 (fatality?).
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rainbow4321 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 10:15 PM
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48. Fuck. EMS reporting gas leak at that lodge
Will they go ahead with the rescue if they smell gas?
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 10:17 PM
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49. was just listening to the scanner for Joplin
All sorts of emergencies -- someone in desperate need of insulin, folks trapped in the Elks Club, looting going on at the tipped-over semi trucks ----
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 10:26 PM
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58. On TV--just said the southern third of the city was completely demolished. nt
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 10:26 PM
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59. It looks like a war zone.
Natural disasters are the #1 threat facing this country...everything else is manufactured bullshit. Instead of investing trillions in GWOTs and War on Drugs, we should be investing in our infrastructure and emergency services. The frequency and magnitude of these disasters seems to be accelerating...when will we stop playing politics with climate change?
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 01:50 AM
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111. Exactly. No terrorist ever destroyed a city.
Since Katrina, I'm way more scared of the weather.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 01:40 PM
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152. And that's EXACTLY what the Pentagon told Bush early on in his administration --
including the fact that Global Warming would also create increasing numbers of

earthquakes --

"Earthquakes" were later scrubbed from the Pentagon Memo --

not unlike much other info which was pulled from scientific reports on Global Warming.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=4837036&mesg_id=4837639



Earthquakes, in turn, will also generate more volcanic activity.


And, here we are, with the rightwing only increasing its efforts to confuse and lie to the

public about Global Warming --


Name change to "climate change" was done by Frank Luntz, GOP propagandist -- which he

advised W to do.

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cordelia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 10:28 PM
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62. Photo of the medical center. Apologies if a dupe.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 10:53 PM
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83. I can't even imagine what it must be like to be inside a builidng when that is happening. The sound
must be horrendous.

:(
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Baclava Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 07:48 AM
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126. Listen to this...First Person video of Joplin MO tornado 5/22/11
Video is dark - they hid in a convenience store walk-in fridge - saved them all

http://youtu.be/cQnvxJZucds
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Amaril Donating Member (447 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 12:10 PM
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138. OMG!
I had tears streaming down my cheeks listening to the fear in their voices. How horrifying.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 10:31 PM
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63. Twitter feeds
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 10:31 PM
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64. OMG....
I have a good friend in Joplin. Can't get a hold of her. :cry:
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 10:31 PM
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65. "I'm a block or two north of where Joplin High used to be"
Holy shit!!!
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 10:32 PM
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66. Radio - just heard a reference to "where Joplin HS used to be".
Possibly the HS is gone????
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 10:36 PM
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70. see post 32 top picture
Edited on Sun May-22-11 10:37 PM by grasswire
that's the HS
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 10:45 PM
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78. What?!
I've been to that school before and I didn't recognize it from the picture.
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Strelnikov_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 10:36 PM
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71. The HS is on a line between the hospital that was hit and the Wal-Mart that is gone.

Probable that it took a direct hit.
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rainbow4321 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 10:36 PM
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72. I know! They did the same with Home Depot
First used present tense, and then changed it to past tense :( I cannot even imagine every landmark around me being GONE. The first responders are having a tough time of it, between landmarks that are gone and roads being blocked off (with debris?)

What a nightmare!
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 10:53 PM
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82. One of them just said he'd never seen anything so horrible ever in his life
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Raschel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 12:05 AM
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104. Looking through those pictures on twitter I can believe it. Cars are crumpled like I have never seen
businesses destroyed, places are just flattened.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 12:09 AM
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107. Death toll seems to have been updated to 30.
Those poor people.
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Raschel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 12:17 AM
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109. I can only think of overused words to say. Unbelievable, horrible, devastating.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 02:04 PM
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161. so sad, so many deaths due to climate changes lately.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 10:33 PM
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68. My prayers go out to all.
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pintobean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 10:47 PM
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79. +1
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 10:38 PM
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73. "Pt trapped at Elks Lodge going into shock"
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 10:39 PM
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74. Rough night all over Missouri
Tornadoes touched down in Saline County, Chamois and Hermann areas, along with dancing around Reform(home of the Callaway Nuclear plant) and Kingdom City area(junction of I-70 and Hwy 54). Nothing as bad as Joplin, thank goodness, but still some damage.

KSN Skycam video of Joplin tornado
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfE6wGceA_A&feature=player_embedded>

More images and video
<http://www.komu.com/news/images-and-video-from-joplin-tornado/>

Prayers go out to all effected by these storms. Daylight will probably bring more bad news.

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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 10:47 PM
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80. Where was the touchdown in Saline?
I graduated from Marshall and I'm a bit curious. If I had to bet I'd say either Grand Pass or Slater.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 11:00 PM
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87. Just west of Slater,
Don't know if it hit Slater, at the time I was busy outrunning the leading edge of the storm, hightailing out of Columbia, going east, headed home. I made it, barely, skirting the wall cloud at Kingdom City.

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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 11:04 PM
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90. Not a shock that it was Slater.
Marshall's in a valley of sorts and almost never gets hit.

Found the info: Channel Five says rope formation just south of Slater and that it moved on to Glasgow.
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 11:14 PM
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94. According to NWS,
house was destroyed.
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Avant Guardian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 11:01 PM
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88. Joplin has a population of about 50k
Hard to imagine it
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 11:23 PM
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95. Just heard them say
Cass County was on scene and they are expecting others.
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 11:48 PM
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100. "Residents 70 miles away from Joplin in Dade County, Missouri,
were finding X-rays from St. John's in their driveways."

:(
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Exultant Democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 11:52 PM
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101. Right now is a time when people what to hear "I'm from the government and I'm here to help."
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 07:40 AM
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123. +1
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pstokely Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 09:06 AM
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131. Even in "Real America"
In sure Joplin qualifies as "Real America"
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 12:06 AM
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105. so very awful. Unbelievable.
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 12:15 AM
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108. Doesn't usregimechange live in Joplin ?
No reports from him yet ? ....

I have been to Joplin quite a few times .... It is a major fueling stop on the 44 .... It is pretty damned big ....

To lose 75% is huge ..... awful ....

I have family in Springfield, Willow Springs, West Plains and Mountain View .... No reports from them ....
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Broken_Hero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 12:36 AM
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110. I think he is very close to Joplin
thats the impression I got from him when we discussed local politics.....
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 02:11 PM
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162. My understanding is that it is a city with 200,000 plus?
Edited on Mon May-23-11 02:12 PM by truedelphi
What a terrible thing this is.

Beyond understanding.

And four twisters hit the Minneapolis area last night.

I grew up in Chicago. And back in the fities and the sixties, it was a rule of thumb that no MidWestern city or town near large lakes needed to worry about tornadoes. Then in the sixties, the southside of Chciago was hit with a tornado. A very minor twister, but it did destroy a few homes.

The older people in the area - especially those brought up on farms -would remark that once the interstate highways came in, and the forests were chopped down for roads, shopping malls and for homes, that the natural protection that places like Chicago and other cities usually had, would be gone. It sure looks like those older people were true prophets.
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 04:24 PM
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165. Thanks for your concern, we made it but the house and car did not
tough road ahead...
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 12:38 AM
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167. Glad you're alive ...
Bummer about your stuff though ..... Gotta remember it's just 'stuff', and that stuff doesn't compare to life, but it still hurts ...

I knew you were down there somewhere, and happy you popped out of it ...
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newspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 10:36 AM
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172. so, how can we help?
do you have a place to stay? What do you need?
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aroach Donating Member (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 02:41 AM
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114. I think I do believe it from the people I know there.
We have five family members who have lost their homes. Two family members still missing. One feared dead in the nursing home that was destroyed. I've only found two family members who didn't lose their homes.
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 03:21 AM
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117. .....
:hug: :hug: :hug:

:cry:

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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 07:40 AM
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122. Wow.
Facebook is still buzzing over an old classmate no one has heard from.

I'm worried that there will be more found before the day is out.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 02:56 AM
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115. I have a son who lives there
it passed within 2 blocks of where he was at. He and his family is fine they all escaped it but there were some tense moments there for a while when the communications were down.
I hate tornado's and if I had my druthers I'd take a hurricane as with a hurricane you know for sure its coming, with a tornado you have no idea.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 07:56 AM
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128. Glad your folks are OK
and yes give me hurricanes over tornadoes
:grouphug:
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 03:00 PM
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164. Thank you
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 03:16 AM
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116. I thought this must be from yesterday
it's been so quiet up here and I have been at work, away from any news reports.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-tornadoes-20110523,0,5528144.story?track=rss

Joplin is so close to Cherokee County, Kansas, I feel like it is part of my district.
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 03:21 AM
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118. Do you see the paradox?
How are they going to send the beer and travel money that needs to be sent with their houses leveled.


I do hope for best comfort and care for those in hardship, and much help to all people that can have a better condition then they are in.
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Glimmer of Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 04:26 AM
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119. Horrible news to wake up to.
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 06:49 AM
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121. My daughter was born in St. Johns Hospital
16 years ago--- Joplin's a nice town with great people.
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 07:46 AM
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125. A friend had an interview scheduled for Wednesday
in Joplin. They're economy really was in a recovery of sorts-lots of rumors floating around about jobs. And Mo Southern isn't a bad school-I drove down a couple of years ago to watch a game.

It's not a bad town.
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snooper2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 09:23 AM
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134. I've got other opinions of Joplin, but won't piss on the town
while it's down
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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 09:26 AM
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135. I have relatives there, all safe, thank God. One was in the hospital when it hit and helping there
till late last night. Car was badly damaged on one side but still drivable. Their house, in north Joplin, was spared, but they have friends whose houses were destroyed and friends who were injured. I nearly moved there several years ago, and the houses I was most interested in were in the area that was so badly hit, one near the hospital and another not far from the Walmart that was hit, west of it and on a hilltop.

I heard someone on the Weather Channel this morning, comparing this to the Tuscaloosa tornado, say that most homes don't have basements in Tuscaloosa, but they do have basements in Joplin. That isn't true. Many homes in Joplin don't have basements because of the rocky ground. That was one thing I noticed right away when looking at homes there. So many people who had only minutes' warning would have had to shelter in interior rooms, without enough time to get to underground shelter.
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 10:20 AM
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136. Holy shit. So horrible. I hope they get the help they need. nt
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matt819 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 12:36 PM
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142. I would hope that Walmart and Home Depot do something
And not only because of the losses they suffered. They claim to be part of the communities they are in? Let them demonstrate that now. They have one of the largest - the largest? - truck fleet in the US. Surely they can coordinate with FEMA and the Red Cross to move what's needed to the area fast.

Or am I dreaming?
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Dirigo Donating Member (157 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 12:47 PM
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146. A Tragedy of Biblical Proportions, When Will Rightwing Extremists Villify the Dead?
As tragic as this human disaster is in Missouri, I am reminded how horrific it was for the beautiful people of New Orleans when a 28 ft high ocean surge crushed over the city leaving thousands dead and missing. We were feted almost daily by Teabaggers, Republicons of every yellow stripe, and the Neo-con crazies from their pulpits asserting it was Gods Revenge on a sinful people. We heard these cretins defame the victims both dead and alive blaming them for the hurricane and resulting carnage. You have to wonder if these same unchristianed sloths will pontificate on the airwaves once again calling out their scurilous insults toward people of color harmed in the floodwaters of the Mississippi.

Is there no shame today from the Republicon Party or will they at least apologize for their hatefulness back then and set about to showing some human compassion.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 01:38 PM
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151. I'm sure Walmart will be collecting the LIfe Insurance on the employees
that they have it on. Other than that? I don't expect very much.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 01:23 PM
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148. Updates here
http://www.koamtv.com/story/14695681/89-confirmed-dead-in-joplin-tornado

This station serves the Joplin area from nearby Pittsburg, KS, so it's still vertical.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 01:56 PM
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158. Terrible news of loss of lives --
and reports from friends and families here show how great the impact --

Sad news for everyone --

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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-23-11 02:40 PM
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163. omg
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Vehl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 02:34 AM
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169. Horrible :(
My thoughts are with those who lost their loved ones in this tragedy.

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SmileyRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 03:18 AM
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170. I wondered where this thread went.
75%.

CNN

really?


It's horrific enough - come on.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 10:40 AM
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173. It was a Red Cross official
And that's exactly what she said.

And I thought Red Cross + CNN made a reliable story. Silly me.
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SmileyRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 08:57 PM
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174. Not YOUR fault.
I can see a local Red Cross volunteer being overwhelmed but CNN reporters should be able to correct it. Granted it was right after it happened and accuracy is not exactly something any of the MSM really strives for anymore.

And let's face it - it's pretty horrific in Joplin.

I just had to chuckle though over the CNN mangling of the truth.
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