"Obamacare"

[Stinky The Clown]

Every time I hear some nooz reader, nooz analyst, pundit, political spokesmodel, or some such use that term, I discount every other word he or she utters. Their intent is clearly to push an agenda and not to inform.

[no limit]

1. Yup, same here. And I dont support the bill

[dionysus]

2. pretty much.

[City Lights]

3. Same here. nt

[Ed Suspicious]

4. Agreed.

I see so many liberals accepting/adopting the language. The health care plan needs a serious rebrand and no democrat should use the term obamacare or romneycare. It's Health Care Reform or something much more dignified. We need to call stop and correct at every opportunity. Do you think the New Deal would have been accepted if it were called "Roosecare/Roosefare"?

[FiveGoodMen]

12. Do you think the New Deal would have been accepted...

...if it required ever-higher payments to a private, for-profit group who was then under little or no obligation to dole out the benefits at the appropriate time?

[bvar22]

15. Nailed It,

and Stuck the Landing.
:patriot:

[Ed Suspicious]

17. No sir.

[Ed Suspicious]

18. I guess I bought into the "baby steps" argument from the

administration. As far as Fascist policy goes, this is better than most. >.< At least the poor derive some benefit.

[Shagbark Hickory]

5. It's too bad the bill had to suck it so hard otherwise we'd be the ones calling it that.

[Deep13]

6. "Obamacare" vs. "Republicancallousness" nt

[AmericaIsGreat]

7. The worst is when liberals use it

A total wtf.

[Vinca]

8. I've found that among members of the healthcare community,

sometimes you have to use the term "Obamacare" (with air quotes) to get them to understand what you're talking about. Unless you want to spend a couple of hours explaining the whole thing. When I first produced my card from the pre-existing condition pool, I swear the lady who takes info at the hospital thought I was a scamster. She insisted, at first, the card was for prescriptions only. So I explained it and she still wasn't getting it until I said "Obamacare."

[Turbineguy]

9. That's right

it's reminiscent of the old style Soviet/Marxist propaganda. Capitalist-Imperialist running dogs.

[Angry Dragon]

10. +1000

I was all ready to rip on you for using that word.........


:hi: :fistbump:

[AmandaRuth]

11. hey, maybe if we promise not to talk about RyanCare,

they will stop with the ObamaCare...

but I do so enjoy explaining RyanCare to all my friends and family. :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin:

[unblock]

13. "ryandoesn'tcare" would be more accurate....

[madokie]

14. You got it Stinky

my eyes glass over when I hear it too. I've been around long enough to know what getting smoke blown up my ass feels like :hi:

[bvar22]

16. It should be EASY to claim the term and make it a positive.

Surely there are MILLIONS of Americans who have been helped by this "historic reform".
Just march them across the National Stage tearfully thanking the Democrats for "ObamaCare".
Own it with PRIDE...don't run from it.

[JTFrog]

22. Considering it's racist origination..... NO

we shouldn't claim the fucking term.

[bvar22]

24. "racist origination" ???

Was "HillaryCare" racist? :shrug:

Is "RomneyCare" racist? :shrug:

If the "Historic Reforms" are really helping MILLIONS of Americans,
march them across the national stage.
Bring on the millions of grateful Americans!
Testify!
Own it with PRIDE!

[JTFrog]

32. W.T.F. You're kidding right?

Like I'm going to post that racist pic that was emailed around coining the phrase "Obamacare".

Try googling it.

I TAKE NO FUCKING PRIDE IN THAT SHIT!

[frylock]

26. hunh?!

care to elaborate?

[JTFrog]

33. No. Not really.

Try google.

I'm not bringing that shit here.

[frylock]

36. fucking really?!

the term was used long before the shithead racists created that image. i've used the term "obamacare" and i will continue to use the term, although i do prefer obamneycare.

[underpants]

34. I agree

posted below

[Liberal In Texas]

19. It's a way to trivialize it.

And to make it seem like a Big Brother plan.

The RW spends jillions of $ on coming up with ways to twist the language and formulate these talking point slogans.

[Ed Suspicious]

20. I'd bet money trivialization was the intention.

[JuniperLea]

21. Yep

That's all they have... since they can't come right out and say... psst... he's black!

[blondeatlast]

23. Yup--and form now on, the scurvy lot will forever be known as "spokesmodels" to me. nt

[TorchTheWitch]

25. They should be calling it Romneycare - that's what it is

This thing about getting all upset about calling Obama's health insurance law "Obamacare" is just stupid. Nobody ever complained about "Romneycare" as if it was coined to be a slur. "Obamacare" is only a slur in some peoples' knee-jerk Dem defensive minds.

[Stinky The Clown]

27. Are you suggesting I'm a "knee-jerk Dem defensive" person?

Not arguing. Just asking.

[salin]

28. long into the future - this will continue to have a back firing effect...

Forget politics for a moment - our system of health care delivery has been dysfunctional for at least two decades - and had gotten unsustainable. For two decades democrats had led several efforts to try to change the system. Dispute the fixes - but the GOP has offered no changes on the national level.

There is no question that there will be tinkering with this system, that is years before going into full effect, on a policy level. But there is no turning back to 2008 on this issue. As more parts come into effect and at least some of the dysfunctions are corrected (ex no coverage available except for the extremely rich for pre-existing conditions for those needing to self insure), the harder it will be to try to turn the clock back. Too many people leave too much.

By using the slur "Obamacare" (which at this point is only used as a slur) it becomes part of the lexicon of the future.

Republicans have hated social security for nearly 3/4 of a century - and medicare for nearly 50 years - in part because both programs have been perceived to a big part of why voters support democrats. These slurmeisters are ensuring that whatever form of a broader system of healthcare will forever be associated with a democratic president, and democrats in general. For a brief year they got some traction - which has since been eroding. Now, IMO their continued slur continues to plant a seed that they will regret for a great part of yet another century.

[bobbolink]

29. Thom Hartmann used it today. Seriously. Does that count?

[BREMPRO]

30. one of the many (R) buzz words that signal "i'm going to lie to you now"

they'd still be calling it obamacare even if the dems didn't adopt many of the R's amendments to water it down and make it palatable enough to pass the conservative corporate Senate...

some others...

they are starting "class warfare"
tax and spend
job killing policies or taxes (ie for taxes on the rich)
they want to tax "small businesses"
the "death tax"
he doesn't love America or believe in American Exceptionalism (about obama)
Democratic party called the "Democrat Party"...

[underpants]

31. I like it. It concretes the term into the American psycho and he(we) will be remembered for doing it

Far from perfect but people like it. They will like it more as time passes and they demand more changes.

"Obamacare", in this world of exulting the king-individual, makes everyone remember who actually made the fundamental change (or at least started it).

[TheKentuckian]

35. Me too Stinky. It should be referred to as "The Wealth Care and Profit Protection Act"

If one must shrink it down then "Gingrichcare" would be accurate.