The GOP Support Men Deducting Viagra But Attack Planned Parenthood

[Donnachaidh]

http://www.politicususa.com/en/gop-viagra-planned-parenthood

The recent passage of H.R. 3 in the Republican controlled House of Representatives sent a strong message to women that the conservative Christian-inspired legislation is serious about eliminating access to abortion services provided by Planned Parenthood. The legislation also eliminates the health insurance deduction on Schedule A of a 1040 Personal Income Tax return if a health policy includes abortion coverage regardless if the health plan is paid for with personal funds or a company health plan. Some Republicans have stated that eliminating Planned Parenthood is meant to eliminate birth control for women altogether so they will be little more than birthing machines.

Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN) gave a recorded video address at a conservative Christian political convention, The Awakening, where she said that Washington elites have “declared war on marriage, on families, on fertility, and on faith,” and regardless the veracity of her statement, the war on fertility is being quietly used as motivation by the Religious Right to defund Planned Parenthood. In Texas, a state lawmaker, Rep. Wayne Christian told a reporter who asked if the push to defund Planned Parenthood was really a war on contraception. Christian responded that, “Well, of course, it’s a war on birth control and abortions and everything. That’s what family planning is supposed to be about.”

There is a inequality in the Republican’s attacks on women, and their ability to acquire contraception is the next logical step in defining a woman’s role as “hyper-fertile wives and mothers in obedient service to God” and it is unfair and unethical. If H.R. 3 becomes law, women will lose their income tax deduction for carrying a policy that includes abortion coverage, and it will eventually include contraceptives, but men can deduct erectile dysfunction pills and all manner of “male enhancement” devices so they can impregnate women with greater ease.

The idea that women are fertile wives is derived from the bible (Genesis 1:28) and expounded upon by a Catholic screed based on a 1995 letter from Pope John Paul II to women at the United Nations’ Fourth Conference on Women in Beijing, China. The Pope’s letter proffered the example of the Blessed Virgin Mary and her life’s purpose as an expression of love and he stated, “Mothers conceive new life, the fruit of the womb, as a result of being fertile and receptive to the love of a husband and to God’s love, both of which are potentially life-giving.” If that sentiment is the motivation for the elimination of Planned Parenthood, then eliminating abortion services is not the real goal of conservative Christians because Planned Parenthood cannot use federal money to pay for abortions and the great majority of their services are for reproductive health including safe, low-cost and effective contraceptives.

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[Cant trust em]

1. Man is that a good point.

Great angle.

[pipi_k]

2. Actually I'd like to see...

one of these enclosed with every starter pack of Viagra...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpGS3_fRwo4

[femrap]

6. I suppose that

beats what the sailors used when stuck asea years ago.....milk bottle filled w/ liver...don't know if it was beef or chicken?

[The Backlash Cometh]

3. I think men who take Viagra and impregnate women should submit to a drug test.

[femrap]

4. I think only women

should be given scripts for Viagra...then she can chose the dude who needs it. It makes perfect sense to me.

[Horse with no Name]

5. I agree

Wanda Sykes did a great skit on this(paraphrased)--said that before any man is given a script for Viagra, he needs a note from THREE women who want to fuck him.:rofl:

[femrap]

7. ...

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: Love Wanda!

[CrispyQ]

10. I'm remembering that.

:applause:

[Shandris]

12. So by comparitive analysis, you're good with a man being able to choose...

...what women he's been with who can have an abortion, right?

No, I didn't think so. But look how easy 'they' -- the very small percentage of Dominionist-style ancient old men in Congress -- manage to get you thinking poorly of all men. Mission accomplished, and they split us even more. We make it so easy for them.

[femrap]

14. Men rape

and impregnate women. That's the difference...a biological difference. Women give birth. If men want to pop one out his ass, good luck. Biology can not mandate one's freedom even though it has been doing so for centuries. Patriarchy is oppression.

You are so funny....you 'think' that the old men in Congress have made me think poorly of 'all men.' WOW. My thinking is a result of personal experience and analysis of our patriarchy.

WOW...you're telling me how I think. Just wow. You are telling me why I think what I do. Patriarchy in all its glory.

And it's ALL organized religions who are telling women what to do and what to think...I don't listen to them.

[Aerows]

8. That's how you know..

..all of this business about attacking Planned Parenthood isn't about abortion - it's about attacking women. It's an attempt to get women back to their place barefoot, pregnant and in the kitchen.

[nilram]

9. Genesis 1:28 -- "fill the earth and subdue it". Come on, it's subdued already!

The whole thing: God blessed them and said to them, “Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground.”

There are so many ways one could argue on the principals in that verse that there are other ways to fulfill it than to increase the population further. Increase in number? Been there, done that, got the sippy cup. Rule over the fish, etc? If we're going to do that, then we've got to have fish & stuff to "rule over". And heck, we're already farming fish, putting cattle into feed lots, and chickens into horrific egg-laying apartments -- doesn't all that count? We're there, you wackos, now act responsibly over it all.

Oh, nevermind, just had to vent.

[femrap]

11. The Domionists love

that crap.....rule over everything.

God also gave people brains....too bad most of them don't use them.

[jmowreader]

13. Now, hang on a second...

isn't this government intrusion in the private sector?

I'm serious here. One of the reasons the Repukes are so hell bent on killing the health care reform law is it is seen as intrusion by the government into the affairs of the private sector.

This is more of the same: a private insurance company should be allowed to decide for itself what services it will cover. If a health insurer decides to cover abortion, it's because it is responding to the will of its customers who have determined that abortion is a service they want included in their health plans.

This proposal is just another way to get rid of abortion without running afoul of Roe v. Wade: they just want to make abortion so expensive working-class people can't afford them. (Rich people who can jet off to island paradises with discreet physicians have always been able to get abortions)

I would really like to see one of our liberal members--I don't know, Keith Ellison looks pretty reliable here--ask the Repukes why they are attempting to apply the heavy hand of government regulation to the private sector with this law. The reaction alone would be priceless.

[AuntPatsy]

15. Good thread, ironic fits so neatly in their obvious agenda