Something happened while y'all were mesmerized by a weiner....

[Skidmore]

Suddenly, Romney has become the front runner in the R field and could beat the President by 3 points (49-43). Fancy that.

No one is talking about anything else but Weiner on this board. Oh, except for the "I'm so disappointed that the President can't make everyone in the world do what I want them to" crowd, who apparently haven't yet found one thing they can get behind.

Gack.

[Ineeda]

1. Gack to the nth degree. K&R

[Syrinx]

2. Romney was always the frontrunner

Republicans generally nominate the number two guy from the previous cycle. Not always, but usually. And Romney, so far, has no serious competition. Herman Cain? Please.

[IndyPragmatist]

3. I think Cain will end up being the nominee

nm

[Syrinx]

4. no way

Racism is such a vital part of Republican DNA, there is no way that is going to happen.

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[cali]

5. uh, romney has long been the frontrunner and

with the economy sinking again, it's not surprise that it's close. Oh, and what poll are you using? Link please.

[muriel_volestrangler]

20. This ABC one, I'd guess - it's 49-46, but that ties in with the '3 point lead'

Romney appears formidable: In a general-election trial heat in the latest ABC News/Washington Post poll he runs evenly with Barack Obama among all Americans, and numerically outpoints him, 49-46 percent, among registered voters -- not a statistically significant lead, given sampling error, but a clear reflection of Obama's vulnerability to a well-positioned challenger.

Romney, though, is the only Republican to run that well; Obama leads all other potential opponents tested in this poll -- Palin, Newt Gingrich, Tim Pawlenty, Michele Bachmann and Jon Huntsman. Palin fares worst, trailing Obama by 17 points among all adults, 15 points among registered voters.

Indeed, despite advancing in GOP primary preference, Palin faces daunting challenges. Sixty-four percent of Americans say they definitely will not vote for her for president, a new high. Sixty-three percent describe her as unqualified for the job, below its peak but still a substantial majority. Even in her own party, among Republicans and Republican-leaning independents, 41 percent rule out voting for her and 39 percent see her as unqualified.

Overall, 21 percent of leaned Republicans support Romney for the nomination, 17 percent Palin, with all others in single digits. Still, while those two lead, the flipside is that each is not supported by eight in 10 potential GOP voters, indicating plenty of room to move as the field coalesces and voters tune in. Today just 22 percent of Americans (and 24 percent of leaned Republicans) are following the 2012 presidential election very closely.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/abc-news-poll-romney-pulls-obama-head-head/story?id=13776546

[liberal N proud]

6. In one week we had a President who was unbeatable

One fucking week and now two faced flip-flopper Romney is more popular? :wtf: All the doom and gloomers over the last week have accomplished exactly what they were working on and that includes those posting the doom and gloom here on DU.

If you post Doom and Gloom and slam the President, don't be shocked when the GOP has a front runner.

From clown to front runner in one short week (it was a short week).


:nuke:

[barbtries]

8. gack indeed.,

obama for president

[Tesha]

9. I've stated here (all along) that if Romney could actually get nominated, he'll win by a mile.

Our one salvation is that he probably can't get nominated (because
the Republican nominating process is mostly controlled by the cer-
tifiably insane), but if cooler Republican heads ever prevail over the
nutcases, our 2012 goose will be well and completely cooked.

Tesha

[madrchsod]

13. there is`t a whole lot of difference between him and obama

you are correct the republicans will not nominate him because of that.

[Solomon]

17. I disagree. Fear of skin color trumps fear of Mormonism

big time. Romney will be the nominee.

[madrchsod]

26. never thought of that...sad but true

[dionysus]

27. really? " if Romney could actually get nominated, he'll win by a mile"

:spray:

[Tesha]

33. Yes really. What factors argue against that?

Did he not win handily the Governor's chair in
true-Blue Massachusetts?

Tesha

[TreasonousBastard]

10. Well, Weiner is the hysteria du jour when one has nothing else worthwhile to say, but...

polls, including whichever one you're talking about, mean little at this point. Let's wait for the Iowa caucus and New Hampshire to see who's really in the race.

I suspect Romney is actually benefiting from the ankle-biters over there attacking him and getting not only better name recognition but attacking him on his record in MA seems to be backfiring.

What's really backfiring is the asshole wing of our own party constantly slamming Obama and giving those other guys giggles with "See, even his own people want to primary him..." Nobody's perfect, certainly not our current President, but they are not doing anything but giving whatever Republican runs a better chance.

And if we lose, they will never, ever, own up to their responsibility for the loss.

[Tesha]

11. Thank you for once again referring to all of the folks on my side of the party as "the asshole wing"

That will surely help secure our votes in 2012.

Important clue: it wasn't my side of the party that took the
cynical calculus that having worked hard to elect Democrats
in 2006 and 2008, we on my side of the Party could all now
be not even passively ignored (as was so-often done in the
past) but instead be *ACTIVELY VILIFIED* by your (apparent)
side of the party.

Yet now you expect our unquestioning fealty to the Party?

Tesha

[TreasonousBastard]

19. The first problem is thinking that you're ignored...

just because you didn't get what you wanted. None of us will EVER get all we want, and rarely even half.

Thin skins and politics don't work well together-- if you don't want to be vilified, work with the system to get what you can get and stop the tantrums when you run into a wall. It's OK to call Obama a sellout and demand a primary but not OK to whine when his people call you out over it.

Right now, I'm in the middle of local campaigns at the county and town level with a town that has only two Democrats out of 19 elected officials. We even went so far as to recruit a few decent Republicans to run on our line and are working like crazy trying to define our party.

Next year we don't have just the Presidential election, but our rep is going to have another battle to the death, and we're gearing up for that already.

What we DON'T need is a faction whining about how the White House isn't doing enough-- it's doing far better than the last one, and will do better than the other guys in the next term.

[TheKentuckian]

15. Yeah, the Turd Way is sure going to take responsibility for their failed agenda, counter-productive

policies, piss poor governing, capitulation, and putting corporate interests over the good of the many which killed any momentum and pulled a floundering TeaPubliKlan party off the scrapheap and legitimized their wicked policies with heaping helpings of bipartisanship and lack of accountability for the crimes and acts that destroyed our economy, made torture not only legal but fashionable, emptied our treasury, rewarded economic insanity, mired us in multiple stupid conflicts, and strip mined the Bill of Rights.

Own responsibility? The Turd Way has been evading responsibility and hippie punching for decades. Fuck your cancerous "side" which is nothing but a seemingly more inclusive Republican party with softer rhetoric and lots of finger pointing that starts nice and early.

The Turd Way might be smarter than the TeaPubliKlans but they are just as crooked, dishonest, and wicked as their friends across the aisle. Why does the Turd Way think that doing the exact same thing as the Republicans while giving a different narrative to explain the actions?

[TreasonousBastard]

22. Well, that Turd Way is all you got, so find a way to deal with it...

You're NEVER going to find the perfect administration that does everything just the way you like it, so start figuring out where your real battles should be.

I've got my own problems here trying to get more Democrats in town and county government with a critical election coming up this year. You go see what you can do about Washington (not much, from what I see) while I work on stormwater runoff, creek pollution from cesspools, hamlet density and a few other things we care about here.

And start thinking seriously about just how bad Obama is compared to the last guy who stayed there. Or McCain would have been.

[TheKentuckian]

36. I responded to a hit piece on accountability for "sides" and accountability.

Where is the Turd Way accountability for their failed Republican rehash?

That's right, all the Turd Way has is lies, propaganda, corporate money, and finger pointing. No way a Turd Wayer actually responds to substance. Like the Republicans, there is a heap of bullshit.

[Le Taz Hot]

23. +1

:applause:

[mfcorey1]

12. +1

[Le Taz Hot]

14. Polls are meaningless

a year-and-a-half from the election. Too many variable. However, if Obama doesn't get his shit together and start throwing us a few more crumbs, it WILL be President Romney.

[lame54]

16. Weiner's weiner is tangible...

Romney's poll #'s are pure fantasy

Everyone knows he was shown up by the traveling history dits

[Bluenorthwest]

18. I have read that the President has lots of highly paid political

advisers whose job it is to get him elected again. I offer that if he's slipping so badly that all discourse must cease to silently preserve his chances, that those advisers might not be earning their keep. I mean, 'this board' is a political discussion board. Those advisers are paid to keep Obama in office. If they are failing to do so, that is on them, not on us.
And of course, years of McClurkin and Warren, 'one man, one woman, plus the mistress and her kids' crap has gotten old. Defending that dogma, so that Ensign can have a 'clean sacrament' gets old. Look at the parade of events the last few weeks. Then think about the President saying that straights are 'Sanctified by God' and have a 'spiritual element in their relationships' that gay people lack. Arnold, Edwards, Tony, Newt, Ensign, Vitter, SANCTIFIED, and others, simply not and never will be. Vitter can go to prostitutes wearing diapers, and he's Sanctified by God in doing so, apparently. But a gay couple with 25 years of loyalty are not nearly as good as Mr and Mrs Vitter. Or the Ensigns. Arnold and Maria and the Help....
I simply do not agree with you and the President that such people are superior to me and Rachel Maddow. All I need out of the President is for him to stop telling fairy tales in defense of adulterous liars. He needs to admit that they are not 'Sanctified' they are humans, just as we are. He needs to stow his nasty prejudice and be President to all, starting with those of us who elected him. He needs to cut out the language of division and prejudice. Recent events have made the raving about the divinity of straight marriages sound fairly absurd, if not downright mendacious.
I stand with my family. Sue me.

[seabeyond]

21. i am a multi tasker. i was able to know about that and do the weiner threads AND feed the kids....

amazing how that works

[Skidmore]

24. seabeyond, .......

:7

[seabeyond]

25. skidmore,................

:rofl:

[Pisces]

28. What a joke.

[Shagbark Hickory]

29. Plenty of time to worry about that.

[sufrommich]

30. He might be the front runner among republicans in general,

but I'll be amazed if he gets past the primaries. It all comes down to who gets out the primary vote.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

31. And of course, while the Corporate Media is using Weiner against Democrats,

they'll prop up Mitt Romney. It's really disgusting. If this country elects this asshole, the people deserve exactly what they get.

WOW! What a difference a week in politics make. Obama was unbeatable, but hatred for the black man on the Right and impatience and whining on the Left could lead to another Republican in the White House. When will we ever learn?

[Nye Bevan]

32. Polls mean *nothing* at this stage. Dukakis was way ahead of Bush Sr early on in the polls (nt)

[flamingdem]

34. What about the Mormon thing? Let's not let the evangelical right forget that.. nt

[Skidmore]

35. Or the flip-flop thing or the corporate consultation which lead to lost jobs

and millions for him.