And now, another gem of conservative wisdom from Facebook

[OmahaBlueDog]

"Florida is the first state that will require drug testing when applying for welfare (effective July 1st)! Some people are crying this is unconstitutional. How is this unconstitutional yet it's okay that every working person had to pass a drug test in order to support those on welfare? Re-post if you agree"

:eyes:

[lolly]

1. Yes, just started seeing this

Another case of "if I'm getting the shaft, I'm going to fight to make sure everybody else is too."

Heaven forbid they should ask why (almost) every working person has to pee in a jar to work at a crappy job.

[chalky]

3. Yes, this and the inevitable brilliant response of,

"Yeah! Why should they be allowed to spend their welfare check on drugs and booze?!?1!!"

:eyes:

[LiberalAndProud]

2. I'd agree that both practices should be deemed unconstitional.

It's an unreasonable search, in my opinion. If you want a job, prove that you're not a criminal? It's one of the vestiges of the Reagan era that have proven to be instrusive and expensive; to what end? It has always been unjust. It should go away yesterday already.

[MrDiaz]

11. although I do not agree with the testing at all

It is not unconstitutional.

[Newest Reality]

4. We live in a free country!

Well, that is, until you walk into the doors of an establishment of an owner/rider. That is where the freedom and liberty end: just where your need to make a living begins and continues. Nice facade. Great game. We all go with it and live by the theme.

Why not extend that glorious and profitable facade, while we are all busy complying with it because we seem to have no other choice other than our attachments to what is presented as the only way we can live.

We can either go with the idea that people who need help should get it, or we can extend the very same criteria that we are accepting for our own employment, (no matter how invasive and unconstitutional it is) to pretend to save money while throwing the needy, (and their potentially homeless and starving children) into a virtually invisible purgatory for having substances, (that many of us now agree are inconsequential and not morally abhorrent) in their bloodstreams.

We can judge the current state of our culture/society, (in which we were created and molded) by how it treats the least amongst us. If we are going to take down the poor and spare/protect/enrich, the wealthy, then what do you think that means about our collective values and what we will do to hold on to our own, bare slivers of this diminishing pie which we are all worried, (to the point of suicide and pharmaceutical lifesavers) will soon evade us, too?

The boat goes down as we watch the poor become more disenfranchised than they already are. The thing is, we are not at all as far from the cliff off of which they are falling and we already know how deep the cavern is and how horrifying the drop into can be.

[Orrex]

5. If those freeloaders didn't want to be drug-tested, they shouldn't have been poor in the first place

[ChoppinBroccoli]

6. You Can Sum Up Right-Wing Beliefs In One Sentence

"They're trying to take our shit!!!"

That's what EVERY right-wing belief boils down to. YOU (the deserving person) have something, and THEY (the undeserving) are trying to take it from you, so you need to fight like hell to protect it.

That's it. Nothing more. It sums up their position on EVERY issue. This is just another example of it.

If you don't believe me, just try it. Pick an issue at random, then sum up the right-wing's position on that issue, and when you're done summing up, add the phrase, "They're trying to take our shit!!!" (kinda like that South Park episode where they keep yelling, "They took our jobs!!!") at the end of it.

[lolly]

7. Well, I'd say that's 95% of it

But I'd suggest there is a moralistic/control issue here as well.

As in--people on public assistance should never, ever, ever have any FUN at all. They should be miserable and feel ashamed ALL THE TIME.

[OmahaBlueDog]

32. Right, because the misery and shame will fuel their rise out of poverty

...just like all that money trickling down from the rich will bring us all prosperity :sarcasm:

[lolly]

36. Well, without the misery and shame

People would just enjoy poverty too much, and would never try to work their way out of it!

[Rabblevox]

8. I would be shocked, simply shocked, to see that as a friend's status in my establishment...

and if I did, they would be in immediate danger of un-friending.

[left is right]

9. how about drug testing

radio personalities and politicians before each broadcast and congressional session

[Nictuku]

16. Drug test Corporate Welfare Recipients (n/t)

[JSK]

10. A friend of mine posted that

And I responded with the details of Rick Scott and his HMO (that he put in his wife's name after he was elected) and the huge profits they will make from the testing. I also mentioned Scott's medicare fraud and his record 1 3/4 BILLION dollar penalty.

She took down the post. :-)

[ejpoeta]

12. maybe i should try that. i may just unfriend the person, but i imagine

my family will start posting this shit soon so maybe i should be prepared.

[Fumesucker]

13. The only drug you can't do on Friday night and pass a piss test on Monday morning is pot..

Or Tuesday at the latest..

So users are very likely to move to drugs other than pot, like meth, cocaine, heroin and so forth.

Mission accomplished.

http://www.toxlab.co.uk/dasguide.htm#DETECTION TIMES

[ejpoeta]

14. i don't drink (except wine coolers) or do drugs. haven't ever done drugs.

have never committed any crimes. i have felt like a piece of shit every time i have had to go ask for any sort of help. i do not live in florida. i live in ny but i can see how fast such a thing will spread everywhere. it makes me sick. just because people are poor or need help does not mean they are doing drugs. they are not poor because they are spending their money on drugs. fucking idiots.

[Fumesucker]

15. Eh, I was just pointing out an argument I used recently against the "drug test welfare" meme..

When it was spouted by a family member.

[OmahaBlueDog]

31. I try not to unfriend people just because they hold contrary political opinions

This particular friend is aa known, longtime wingnut. What shocked me were the peole who "liked" the post.

[drmeow]

25. Could you provide a link

with more information - I'd like to reply with similar information to one of my friends who posted.

[sufrommich]

17. I have 3 of these on my facebook now, none from people I

would label conservative. It's a hard thing to argue against whether you agree with it or not. It strikes a nerve with people obviously.

[The Backlash Cometh]

18. Unfortunately, it is resonating, even with Democrats.

There is so much misery out there that everyone is dragging everyone else down.

[sufrommich]

19. Yep. Here was my remark to everyone posting it.

"I'm OK with it as long as everybody taking government handouts is included, bankers and CEOs next.right?"

[The Backlash Cometh]

20. Holy crap!

I said the same thing!

[sufrommich]

21. We all need to say the same thing. Cheers. nt

[OmahaBlueDog]

28. I like that response for two reasons

1) Almost no one receiving "welfare" actually is just handed money. One gets vouchers for rent, food, etc. So the idea that you ae getting cash to just go out and buy drugs is absurd.

2) The handouts the corporate and ag sector get dwarf what we give to the poor.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

22. I saw this posted and I responded....

"Only if they also drug test legislators and government officials, business owners who've receieved loans from the government, CEOs of corporations who've been awarded government contracts....just about anyone who recieves any government money."

I don't think the OP knew what to make of it.

[dog_lovin_dem]

33. I stole your response.

I hope that's ok. I wasn't sure how to respond to this and read your comment...then copied it, along with my addition of testing for prescription drug levels and alcohol blood levels. Now it's wait and see how the poster responds!!

[Tommy_Carcetti]

35. Not a problem. Use at will. nt

[toddwv]

23. And these drug tests are free.

Seriously.

[drmeow]

24. The irony is that

the only FB friend of mine who posted it is the biggest pot head I know.

[hifiguy]

26. I have never been drug-tested for a job in my life.

The notion that anyone with a job has been drug tested sounds like run of the mill reichwing stupidity.

[OmahaBlueDog]

27. I suppose "Joe the Plumber" can burn all the lettuce he wants

If he's self-employed, I suppose he can set his own drug policy.

Pilots have to take a flight physical every year, and I believe a drug test is part of it. I say that the same approach should be used with automobiles.

[Vinee]

29. Oh noes, unemployed drug addicts will have to stop taking drugs now! Where is the humanity?

[RooseveltTruman]

30. What scares/surprises me...

...Is that some of the people posting this are liberal/Democratic otherwise. It seems this has broad, "bipartisan" (for lack of a better word) support. It's really sad/surprising to me that more people aren't willing to think about this issue a little more deeply for a moment.

[arbusto_baboso]

34. "Every working person had to pass a drug test"? How do they feel okay just making this shit up?

In the many, many jobs I've had, I only had one drug test, and that was for a law enforcement position.