I almost got into a fist fight with a right-wing guy (Realtor) this morning.

[BlueJazz]

He was looking at my neighbors house and told her to hold on to it ...that prices were going to go WAY up in the next year now that we have the Republicans back in charge. (I was looking at her internet cable outside...she lost the web..etc)

I didn't say a word...it wasn't my place to get involved. (of course)

BUT..She asked: :What to you think about it, Bud ?
---What I'm about to write is not exactly what was said but not very far off..my neighbor is helping me) :)
I said: Well, as I understand it, Prices will drop even more.
Realtor: What do you mean?
Me: I know lots of people that are under-water right now and who are wondering how to even make their next house payment....and soon these houses will be on the Market..adding to the overflow already.
Realtor: That's not true
Me: I beg to differ.. I know just about every one of them ...I see...ah...maybe 50-60 people each week and know most of my clients
(I'm a IT tech and Microsoft engineer and all that crap) ....tell me things that only their hair-dresser knows. :)
Realtor: (Nasty Tone)..Ah..you're full of it.
Me: (just slightly pissed)"I see the economy getting worse now that the same people who caused this down-turn in the economy are now back in charge again...plus the fact that the spread of wealth is going to get worse..much worse.
Realtor: Oh...you're one of those class-war liberals who don't understand that the wealthy built this country.
Me: Oh..Pleeeese..spare me that right-wing talking points..they're not true...the Rich are the ones that started the class wars.
If the wealthy were not getting all the money, the rest of us could just maybe afford their house payments and wouldn't have to put their keys in the mailbox and walk away from their responsibilities ....and houses wouldn't be sold for half their previous value.
Realtor: (Changing direction) George Bush and the Republicans have kept us safe. It cost us money but WE ARE SAFE! (starting to holler).
Me: Safe from what?? untold thousands of people have committed suicide from this down-turn and millions are under such stress that I guarantee their lives are being shortened...ask any doctor about that.
Realtor: No one's attacked any more buildings.
Me: Oh that's brilliant...right.. and if I turn around and clap my hands 3 times every day, no tigers are going to attack me at night.
Realtor: What??
Me: Never mind..The analogy is way over your head.
Realtor: (Balls fist) maybe you need some sense put in your head.
Me: Don't even think about it pal..you wouldn't stand a chance. It would be a very bad move on your part.
(My neighbor is smiling through all of this..She's a FAR-left intelligent woman)
Realtor: turns around and gets in car..leaves..

Oh me...another day in Paradise
:) :)

[Iggo]

1. LOL...That's why I don't talk to strangers anymore.

:fistbump:

[luvspeas]

The asshat realtor wanted her to hold on to her house so he could buy it low...

that's the repug mentality. lies are OK when there is money to be made, and who cares who gets hurt by it.

[FreakinDJ]

2. I'm sure that realtor isn't doing very well economicly

and your words well burn into his brain for a very long time to come

[emulatorloo]

38. Yes. you are absolutely right. Those words are going to trouble him.

[Mariana]

86. Nah. He likely turned on Limbaught when he got into the car

and is probably watching Fox News this very minute. He's being effectively re-inoculated against reality.

[Enthusiast]

76. Couldn't happen to a nicer guy. nt

[LiberalLoner]

3. Don't take this the wrong way, but I LURVE you!!!!! K&R n/t

[Enthusiast]

126. LOL! nt

[molly77]

136. I admire anyone who tries to debate the brown shirts.

The agent would be the first one to report a suspicious looking person at the Wal Mart.

The brown shirts in our family still think we are fighting them over there so we won't have to fight them here. College graduates too. Propaganda works .

[KansDem]

4. Excellently done!

Your deed has earned you membership to the Order of the Contrabass!



May you wear it proudly!

[kurtzapril4]

53. Great Googly Moogly! n/t

[Enthusiast]

77. Dang! Can we hear a clip of that thing? LOL! nt

[ornotna]

85. Ask........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXBeu7o9uUM


First time for me too. wow.

[csziggy]

108. Really Big Blues

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwTorKNmED4

[PSzymeczek]

84. That is one extraordinarily large

relative of the saxophone

[BlueJazz]

98. I played one of those years ago for about 10 minutes. It was like playing..

...a Bulldozer. :)
Wouldn't it be cool to go into a little club and ask the band: You Guys mind if I sit in??

[axollot]

133. Did you pass out after those 10 minutes? Looks like it takes a lot

of air!!

Sista Sarah, "Crazy eyes" Bachmann and Beckkk to name a few folks with a lot of extra hot air could put it to good use instead of being nails on a chalkboard!

Cheers
Sandy

[BlueJazz]

134. You know,..strange enough.....it (supposedly) doesn't take any more..

..air than playing even a soprano. I know there's not much difference than playing an alto or baritone. :)

[axollot]

135. Awesome! I played the flute and clarinet, DH played any brass he

could for HS marching band. My son Alex found it relatively easy to go from his 1st sax (tenor) to soprano and baritone (he had a solo in Jazz Band on the Bari).

Just noticed your nick!! Alex plays the bari and tenor in Jazz Band; after Marching Band finished (competition band, came in top 10 @ State). During the 'try-outs' they had too many sopranos and tenors so he took up the baritone. He is working towards a scholarship in state (FL) and wants to do marching band while in University. He loves it and became depressed when he realised he has only 1 more year of HS Marching Band left after this school year.

Their HS has an excellent instructor, but the budget was cut pretty roughly last year so it costs a lot (more!!) to keep him in it. If not for family help not sure if we could have done it on our own. Which is frustrating because it's a great way to keep teens busy. It does take a lot of dedication and team work. But due to cost it also has the effect of keeping kids that cannot afford it from participating.

Would love fundraising ideas (from anyone!! PM me if nec) to help with next year and maybe support a couple of kids that otherwise wouldnt get the opportunity.

Cheers
/rant off ;)
Sandy

[BlueJazz]

142. Yep...I understand the cost issues as far as school bands go.

Brass and Woodwind Instruments are not cheap and even reeds are expensive.
As far as Fund-raising ..um...We did the usual "Car Wash" thing but now it's winter that might not be possible.
We also played outside in Shopping Centers (We had a small big band, (12-14) ...and raised usually about $150.00
per Saturday.

As for my playing...I worked for CBS as a studio player for 7 years and then went on the road in a band until the
"Rap stuff" started.
I could tell you some stories...regarding the "Stars" and their attitude and talent. :) :)

[axollot]

131. A little OT but WTH is that? My son plays several types of Saxes

from Soprano, tenor and baritone. His baritone is much smaller than the instrument in the pic.

Thanks!!


Cheers
Sandy
Edit: It's a "contra-bass" like you mentioned, never heard of it. Still love to hear (no pun) more about it! I bet those cost a pretty penny. The bass and baritone do.
as an aside, if anyone is in need of an instrument or would like to help out area schools - I've found that pawn shops have nice ones, well priced usually and you can negotiate further if it's been in stock for a while. That was how we were able to get my son's other saxes (tenor was purchased new) a flute and a bass guitar/amp.

[KansDem]

143. I played baritone in school; alto in college

I also have a bass...but it would be a once in a lifetime event to play a contrabass!

Here's me with my Conn and Chevelle:

[Whoa_Nelly]

5. It would not have mattered anything you said or could have said

The guy is obviously a FAUX hostage, and embraces it.

Good for you in taking a stand, but no matter what holes you shoot in their beliefs, no matter how many straw arguments you knock down with facts, these people are not going to change their view unless they are directly and/or severely affected by the economy, wars, employment, or any of the other woes now being visited upon our democracy by those who have sought and continue to seek destorying it, reshaping oit for personal gain and getting their piece of the pie in owning some part of it.

However, kudos to you for standing up and speaking up out :hug: I applaud you! :applause:

[Horse with no Name]

11. They are brainwashed lemmings

and in their "with me or against me" state of mind--you cannot reason with them.
Out of everything--THOSE people terrify me the most.

[Grinchie]

55. You are so right -- They are all about "ME!"

They couldn't give a damn about anyone other than themselves if they tried.

I can assure you that the Realtor described above will soon be latching on to other unsuspecting folk that are easier game than what he encountered.

The best way to irritate these people is to say no. They cannot take No as an answer. No is a direct insult to there sense of entitlement, which is taking your wealth for their own.

They fabricate their own reality, and when they run into someone that actually says No, they will go out of their way to get back at them, even though it is in violation of the Laws of Nature, Mathmatics, the Legal System, of of Common Sense.

The final straw is when they are forced to spend money to defend their lies. They hate that so much they can explode.

[awoke_in_2003]

83. "shoot in their beliefs"...

but don't you know "belief" is a virtue in this country :) Seriously, if you can buy the story of feeding 5000 people with a couple loaves of bread and fish, or of being able to turn water into wine, you can believe anything.

[LibDemAlways]

6. Hopefully the best thing to come out of that altercation is

that your neighbor will list with someone who has some integrity and smarts. That guy sounds like a dumbass.

[LucySky]

7. You did great! the only thing I would have done differently (if I was male)

is to tell him to "go ahead", then taken a punch and turtled. Then, I would sue the bastard for all he is worth.

Gotta hit these bullies in the pocketbook.

[Maru Kitteh]

37. My first thought too. Sue the bastard, or at least get him arrested, hopefully both.

That would be quite satisfying. They ARE the "law and order" people after all.

[awoke_in_2003]

88. no, they are...

"law and order for other people" people. Same asshats are usually anti-choice- at least until it comes to their teenage daughters.

[MedicalAdmin]

148. I've noticed that too. And I wondered why and then I had a revelation...

That came about while talking to my wife, the doctor, about genetics. Of course they don't want their daughters to carry to term.. Incest is hard to convict unless you have corroborating witnesses or hard genetic proof. No baby, no blood test, no proof.

[Renew Deal]

8. I was talking to a guy at one of the big non-US international banks a few days ago

He sees the housing market getting tougher meaning prices going down mostly for the reasons you mentioned.

[KurtNYC]

26. Real estate agents were part of the bubble

putting people into homes they couldn't afford. Pushing prices higher even as they knew the bottom had to fall out soon.

And now they are left to just lie their butts off daily, telling people it is a good time to buy.

[louis-t]

66. Ah, the Realtor haters club again. I knew I would find you.

You need to stop getting your talking points from Fox. You must also think Barney Frank is responsible for forcing banks to loan money to poor people. After all, that's what follows in the imaginary world of teabag crazies.

The mortgage companies and banks came to us in 2003 and said "we can now write 0 down, conventional mortgages. We were a little stunned, to say the least. People came to us with pre-approvals from lenders. What would you have us do? Say "no, I forbid you from buying a house that the bank that's loaning you the money says you can afford"? Remember, these people ALL HAD JOBS THEN. The lenders pursuaded the bush administration to loosen up regulations (you remember those, don't you?) You all know what the lenders did with those mortgages, I don't have to educate anyone here about that. The banks made a fortune off these loans when they packaged and sold them, at the same time removing all liability from themselves.

Some of the people that ended up defaulting were in an adjustable mortgage. They were told that they could refinance in a few years, and traditionally properties would go up in value (they went down) and they could move into a fixed rate, but they were also told (in writing) that there were no guarantees that financing would be available. Realtors do not push buyers into adjustable mortgages, that is between the lender and the buyer. I sold very few houses on adjustables. Most people were afraid of them.

So, you claim all us Realtors "knew the bottom would fall out soon"? What, I have a crystal ball? And WE are responsible for pushing prices higher? Demand causes prices to go higher. Now, we just "lie our butts off"? You know, you can choose to educate yourself, or you can just remain ignorant.

[sendero]

113. Nice try..

.. I've been screwed over by enough realtors whose ONLY INTEREST is in seeing rising prices for real estate, in their simple minds More Commission, to not be swayed by your missive.

EVERYONE with a brain bigger than an English pea knew by 2006 that what was going on was completely unsustainable. Any REALTOR who claims otherwise is an idiot or a liar. Yes, plenty of realtors were complicit in this mess.

[louis-t]

147. How do Realtors control prices?

The value of something is "what someone is willing to pay". It still has to appraise when getting a mortgage. Realtors have very little sway when dealing with appraisers. The best we could ever do was point out a comparable sale that they had missed. Your comments are ignorant. Actually, buyers' agency (proposed by Ralph Nader) has us working FOR buyers to get the best deal on property. 2006 prices "completely unsustainable"? YES! History of market correction? YES! Bottom falling out and prices returning to 1980's levels? Never in a million years did anyone think that would happen. We were unaware of the manipulation going on in the banking industry and had no idea the job market would get so bad. You still haven't explained how Realtors "screwed" you or how we "knew" or how we "control prices". You are like a Republican trying to explain how tax breaks for billionaires creates jobs. Plenty of noise, but no real facts. Investors and speculators drove prices up in Sunbelt states. Pre-builds were big in FL, AZ, NV, CO, mostly condo complexes. Investors would plunk down cash before anything was built, then sell for $100,000 more when it was finished. Those were the areas that got hit the hardest. Yes, there are unscrupulous people (probably Republicans) in our business, but demonizing an entire industry based on what a few greedy hacks are doing?

[KurtNYC]

116. I used to work for HQ at a real estate company that had 900

agents. 3% of bigger and bigger numbers -- that was the goal for most.

[gtar100]

124. Where do I sign up for that club?

It's probably standing-room only.

[Mimosa]

9. Most realtors are smarter than that guy

I've known a few realtors. In the 1980s I was in the business. I'm sure that fool isn't successful or even representative of the majority. It's obvious he listens to Limbaugh and O'Reilly all the time.

Good for you, BlueJazz. You're very erudite.

[BlueJazz]

19. Yep....most of the Realtors I've met are pretty helpful and Sharp.

[hlthe2b]

10. Heavens you are in Florida...

Surrounded by the crazies. Give 'em hell!

[pinboy3niner]

12. Yeah--I bless George W. Bush every day for keeping us safe on 9/11

:sarcasm:

[Statistical]

13. What realtor (one who works on commissions) advised a potential client to not sell a home?

That is like saying "Boss I would like to not get a paycheck this week please. Hang on to it and maybe give it to me in a year"

I mean who does that especially Realtors in this economy where commission checks are smaller and there are less of them?

[Zywiec]

20. +1

We have some creative writers here.

[BlueJazz]

22. My neighbor is an Author. Wish I could tell you her name. She's the one that remembered most of ...

...the conversation.
(She's a fairly solitary lady...doesn't want her book sales to be influenced by "Party" means)

[BlueJazz]

21. I agree...see post 19 :)

[tsuki]

68. Some banks and realtors are doing that here. The number of houses

on the market is huge, and they don't want to add more.

[zeemike]

73. The Realtor/investor/house flipper.

Who hopes to make a lot more money than what a Realtor makes in commissions.

[avaistheone1]

110. The law in most states requires a realtor to disclose to the seller when they

want to purchase a home for their own account. Then it would be up to the seller to evaluate if the realtor's offer is a fair offer or if the seller believes he can do better if the home is sold to a different party.

Do you reeaallllly think it is easy to flip a home these days with prices continually going downhill? :rofl:

I assure they are not many realtors flipping properties in today's market. It is highly risky.

[zeemike]

145. Yes it seems you can do anything as long as you disclose.

And if you get screwed then it is your fault because dud bit evaluate wisely.
But still if you have some extra cash and buy low when it is high you make a killing....that is how it is done.
A true story I know of....during the depression one man that was wise enough to not have all his money in risky investments and had cash used the opportunity to go to the Ozarks where people were dirt poor but had a lot of land....he bought up 50,000 acres of mostly timbered land for something like 50 cents an acre...and over time cut and sold the timber and made a fortune that way....and still owned the land....and that land is worth a lot more now than then.
And I am convinced that is what is happening today....they are using all that cash they have to buy up real estate.

[MedicalAdmin]

74. Some realtors aren't retor but speculators.

That's what this guy sounded like. Predator.

[The Backlash Cometh]

14. Bravo!

[postalanthrax]

15. He "kept us safe"? What about the anthrax that came AFTER 9/11?

I suppose since it didn't effect him in a manner the same way that buildings collapsing on tv can, it wasn't a big deal.

They make it up as they go along.

[Cherchez la Femme]

29. Anthrax from a Federal laboratory

yet nobody
especially from the so-called the "Camel Club"
was ever arrested, much less convicted.

I guess it's really easy to intimate that a now-dead man did it.
Rather Mafioso like, 'the dead don't talk'

[butterfly77]

32. That was ...

mitch mcconnell,dick armey and the gang. There is a pic on that day with Mitch smirking know it was them all along,I can never seem to find that pic.

[NewJeffCT]

39. Welcome to DU, and not just anthrax

the DC Sniper was a terrorist
There have been nearly monthly attacks on various family planning clinics around the country.
The assassination of Dr. George Tiller was a terrorist act
there have been a whole slew of others since Obama took office (some guy flew a plane into an IRS building, no?)

or, do they not count as terrorist attacks because all of the attackers were Americans, and most of them white Christian males?

[90-percent]

72. Good point

Also, what about 9/11 itself? Bush sure didn't keep America safe after that day. (An aggravating hypothetical: Would a 9-11 have happened to President Gore?)

He also did a terrible job keeping the troops safe. Bush' decision to go to wars is responsible for the deaths of 4,500 patriotic young Americans. And about 800 contractors, and what, maybe 100 journalists? To say nothing of the permanently scarred and wounded.

I love the smell of corporate fascism in the morning.

-90% Jimmy

[MedicalAdmin]

78. That whooshing sound you hear is a clue flying over your head.

If you remember 911, people died. He didn't keep us safe. You are responding to high satire.

[csziggy]

109. And the TWO planes that were flowen into buildings since 9/11

The kid that flew one into a building in Tampa and the anti-IRS guy in Texas.

[peacetalksforall]

120. How about the arsenic that came BEFORE 9/11?

[WinkyDink]

137. Safe, schmafe! NINE-ELEVEN, BAYBAY!! Nine to the one-one! 9/11/01! NEVER FORGET IT WAS ON BUSH'S

WATCH.
If that is the measure, I guess everyone from Ike to Clinton "kept us safe."

[Javaman]

16. another realtor trying his best to whistle past the grave yard.

but he fails to understand, we have all heard that tune before.

[TNDemo]

17. Bush kept us safe??

Perhaps that guy has not heard about 9/11.

[Raster]

18. The disconnect is astounding!

"George Bush and the Republicans have kept us safe."

NO, they didn't. The worst "terrorist" attack on the United States happened on their watch... with plenty of advance warning from multiple, verifiable sources that an attack was eminent.

[markpkessinger]

63. Old GOP Talking Point

You're right, of course, that they certainly didn't "keep us safe" from the attacks of 9/11. But even if one grants that, well, ok, 9/11 was unprecedented, possibly no administration would have seen it coming, etc. -- even granting that (for the sake of argument): to argue that because another attack akin to 9/11 didn't happen, that this is somehow evidence that "Bush kept us safe" is simply ludicrous on its face. But if they really insist on going down that particular road, it is worth reminding them that, apparently then, so has President Obama kept us safe in his two years in office.

[felix_numinous]

23. So is this realtor screening people for political affiliations?

Sounds like it.

[sweetapogee]

24. regardless of who is

in the majority in the US House of Representatives, if the attitude among dems is consistent with the attitude here, that is the economy is going to get worse not better before 2012, then get ready for a bad experience in 2012.

The President and the dem controlled senate must make fixing the economy their number 1 priority.

[ooglymoogly]

25. And hilarity ensued. Standing up is all that is left to us.

If a few laughs are had so be it...KR

[VeryConfused]

27. Not hard to get into a fight with right wingers

most of them have serious anger issues.

[MedicalAdmin]

80. All hat. No cattle. ... They are all talk

In prison they would be known as a punk assed bitch. Big mouth and all talk until the cell door opens and then they shut up and hope to be unnoticed. They are extreme cowards ( see recent articles on the brains of conservatives) who are hoping that no one would notice.

And so it is with your realtor. All talk and no action. All fear. A punk assed bitch.

[VeryConfused]

132. true

[Cherchez la Femme]

28. "the wealthy built this country"?!

No, the poor immigrants built this country. Were the wealthy out there laying the first railroad tracks? Were they digging the coal so steelworkers could manufacture? Were the wealthy building bridges, houses, tunnels?

No. The poor were.

The wealthy financed some things, but only be cause they expected a profit.


& as for "Bush kept us safe"... shit :puke:
that is not the duty of the president. Safety may the the consequence of good (and attentive: 'who could have imagined they'd fly a jet into a building?', 'The Aug. 6 Presidential Daily Brief --PDB-- was 'just history'. *grimace*) governance, but it is NOT the duty of the president

nor would I want it to be.


As for 'putting us in danger', now THAT has been the unintended consequence of decisions of every president since Carter, and even some prior to him -- and that obviously includes Bush!
That 'kept us safe' bullshit drives me crazy

[GoddessOfGuinness]

54. The wealthy built the country on the backs of slave labor.

That's the kind of America they want again.

[Cherchez la Femme]

64. We're just looking at it from different angles

I'd say slave labor did the building, not the wealthy.
Financing a profitable venture couldn't make anyone break a sweat...

But yeah, that's the kind of country they want again

and, through the actions of both Republicans and union-busting (just for one example) Democrats, they're getting it!


BTW, I *adore* your sig pic! Anteaters are sooo gorgeous!

[WilliamPitt]

30. *Inserts Obligatory "I Don't Believe This Happened" Comment*

;)

Way to go.

:toast:

[greytdemocrat]

69. It probably didn't.

[droidamus2]

31. The old bob and weave

It's funny how all these rabid right-wingers always do the 'bob and weave' when you start to show how uninformed they are. In your case you were nailing the guy on 'real estate matters' so he bobs and weaves to 'National Security' where he figures he will be on more solid ground. Of course he was wrong again. You see this from right-wingers all the time they will just move from subject to subject because other than talking points they really don't know anything about what they are talking about.

[Grinchie]

59. Bingo - You have outlined a very common tactic - Bob and Weave

They realize they are vulnerable by being called out on their Bullshit, so they bolt to the supposed safety off another unrelated topic in order to confuse the message.

It seems like they have a hard time with us Ex - Software Engineers that made there living thinking things through logically.

They are highly illogical in their world view.

[Populist_Prole]

65. Bob & weave, good name for that tactic. I notice it too

A friendship of mine is being increasingly strained due to him being very much more conservative than before.

Same thing too. He just keeps pulling out well known various RW talking points as I either debunk them, or let it be known it's not an issue I care about. Doesn't even try to go back and forth even ONE counterpoint. Exactly as stated above: they don't know what the hell they're talking about.

[peacetalksforall]

121. How about bob, weave, and flip. Your examples of bob and weave are excellent - they also flip.

They will take all accusations against them and flip them to say it's the Democrats doing who are doing it.

Of they will take simple language and flip it - like the death panel.

There are very brilliant, creative people leading them - and they get sign making guidance, but sooner than later they absolutely cannot use logic to make, back, or complete a logic path.

Their brilliant, creative genius leaders should work on that, but it is impossible because it is all in the sound bite. Their are no skills to make a case.

All argument is based on interruption to lob another point.

[sabrina 1]

33. You should have reminded him, since he brought it up,

that 9/11 happened on Bush's watch. That on his watch, an entire U.S. city was destroyed, even though they had nearly a week of advance warning. And that so far, Obama has kept us safe for more than a year longer than Bush managed to do.

And, that terrorism has increased all over the globe so much that the Bush administration tried to hide the statistics.

And if you really wanted to make him mad, you should have told him that 'deregulation' was the cause of the economic collapse and that the market needs to be regulated because we tried it their way and it's been disastrous for this country.

Maybe next year when he's out of a job his faith in republicans will not be so naive.

Other than that, well done. I find them a waste of time. The only way they will learn is to lose their jobs under a Republican administration.

[bullwinkle428]

34. I've met a couple of REALLY ignorant and obnoxious real estate

agents over the years to know your story is more than plausible in my eyes! :toast:

[southernyankeebelle]

35. One thing I found is you can't reason with stupid, period. Don't even try.

[FiveGoodMen]

52. Agreed.

But...if you can't reason with stupid, then how do you stop it?

I'm not just talking about conversations like the OP, but about the country's demise in general.

We keep trying to reason with those who don't respect reason (or even understand how it works).

What DO we have at our disposal to fight them with?

[Grinchie]

62. You focus on making your world a better place and...

You ensure that you keep up the pressure on those that would like to make theirs into their own Hell of Earth.

There are lots of ways to keep the pressure up.. Unflattering facts, close scrutiny, sunshine, complaints to regulatory authorities, and generally knowing everything you can know about someone and being able to spot the BS from one mile away.

I learned this from the example of Integrated Pest Management or IPM. Agriculture today is focused on Monocrop -- Thousands of Acres of one plant, Corn for example. When grown this way, once a pest gets a foothold, all it needs to do is walk from plant to plant to plant. It never has to expend any energy looking for food.. It just has a huge world of food.

In nature, plants really don't grow in Monocrop. Their is usually a great diversity of plants int between one another. The insects in this environment actually have to expend energy to find food. They have to fly, crawl, pass through spider webs or other hostile zones, expending energy on the way. Also, they may not make it past the spider web or the hungry bird.

This is the key to the asshats that pollute our society. Make it cost more to behave that way than it does to be a good citizen. It's that simple.

Unfortunately, these values are not taught to our kids these days. When we reward these criminals but making it extremely profitable and easy to continue their crimes, they grown more numerous and voracious.

People need to stand up and assert themselves by making life miserable for this behavior. One step at a time.

[MedicalAdmin]

82. What DO we have at our disposal to fight them with?

Guns, shovels, and long lonely country roads. Stupidity, IMHO, should be a capital crime.

[annabanana]

104. The aim is to argue with "stupid" when there are unengaged +/or

undecided people in earshot. You will never get anywhere with the hardcore dunderheads, those blocks are impervious. The sad thing is that a huge part of the population "doesn't 'do' politics". . (like it's a hobby, like knitting). Those are the people to enlighten in these dust=ups.

[Grinchie]

60. I can be fun though. Especially if you keep a log of it.

When your record interactions with Stupid, it can be quite amusing to flash their stupidity right back at them when the time comes.

I love doing this, simply because they always assume that people don't take the time to document their Bullshit, and it's lost down the memory hole of most people. To really unveil stupid, just ask them to put something in writing.

[awoke_in_2003]

93. how's the saying go?

"Never argue with an idiot- he will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience"

[southernyankeebelle]

103. Well give them enough rope and they will hang themselves. But I

figured the more cuts the republicans start making and it truly effects the teabaggers in their pocketbook that they lose their jobs homes and health insurance then and there is when they will be come good ole liberals.

[awoke_in_2003]

105. But they will promptly note...

that they are not hung. I am surrounded by these asses- they are stupid and clueless.

[Mariana]

115. I don't think so.

Teabagger types will perform all manner of mental gymnastics to convince themselves that Democrats and/or liberals and/or the mainstream media are to blame for anything bad that happens. If they can't manage to do so on their own, then RW radio, Fox News, and sites like Free Republic and World Net Daily will helpfully explain it to them.

[Motown_Johnny]

36. you should find some documentation on home prices in your area and save it

until 1 year from today. Then find updated information and send both to him with a note about how the (R)s are the source of the problem and an "I told ya so"!

[southernyankeebelle]

102. Friend haven't you heard. Their solution is always blame the democrats. Of course the

democrats (god bless them) are a bunch of pussies.

[Motown_Johnny]

146. the point being that the liberal understands what is going on and the conservative doesn't

They will always pass the blame, we all know that.

[femrap]

40. I love these kind of stories....

the poor widdle rightie always has to leave in a huff since he has been called on his bulliness.

[Fire1]

41. Good for you, Bluejazz!! Still wish he had started swinging so

you could've decked his halls!! LOL!!!

[BlueJazz]

100. Thank you much. :)

[malaise]

42. Don't tell me you missed the opportunity to remind him

that 9/11 happened under said Bush and Cheney.
Super post.

[prodigals0n]

43. You should report this jackass to the local Realty Board

Threatening people while in his role as a Realtor and right in front of clients? That's license suspension and possible revocation where I come from.

[tilsammans]

44. His RE views are utter bullshit! I know firsthand . . .

I was very fortunate to have sold my (fabulous!) NJ house on REPUBLICAN Chris Christie's watch, but not before lowering the price SIGNIFICANTLY.

There's such a climate of fear in the area, and no one knows how it will all shake out. My house was in a school district with a so-so reputation. All Chrisite's blustering about canning public school teachers and cutting school budgets didn't help. Who'd want to buy a house, not knowing the impact of cutbacks on the school system?

:scared:

[lillypaddle]

45. Good for YOU!!!

Way to go. Very nice. :)

[OverDone]

46. Hahaha

Thumbs Up

[seabeyond]

47. what i dont get is why we or anyone says repugs ARE IN CHARGE. house, only

we have senate and pres. i am not seeing any "in charge". the measley house. that is it. no in charge.

[OnionPatch]

122. I don't get it, either. And yet I keep hearing this in the media, too.

The GOP is in charge of one out of three branches of government. If the situation were reversed, the media would be talking about how the Dems were politically impotent. The double standard is astounding. And it just goes to show how presumptuous right-wingers are. One branch and they think they own the place. :eyes:

[Initech]

48. The Fux News crowd is so damn ignorant.

[lunatica]

49. You went and confused another teabagger with facts

I'm glad your neighbor stood by and obviously relished you making a fool out of him. I hope he noticed, because that will sting much longer than the confusion you made him feel. They do think with their reptile brain.

[mmonk]

50. Why would a Realtor support Republicans?

Foreclosures bring prices down. We're not for ending the mortgage deduction either which will slow sales.

[harun]

71. No one but the top 1% "should" support the GOP, but somehow

they win elections. Of course the answer to this is good marketing and people buying the lies.

[PSzymeczek]

94. Many people think that, someday,

they, too, will be rich.

[harun]

107. Yah, that is one of the GOP's top myth's. Also the reason

for the 401k. With that they have convinced many that with enough time, they will all be millionaires.

[provis99]

51. it figures that he'd have a parasitic, economically useless job like realtor.

Realtors do nothing for the economy, except jump in between buyers and sellers shouting that they should get a cut of someone else's business, too.

[Divine Discontent]

56. and if I turn around and clap my hands 3 times every day, no tigers are going to attack me at night

:rofl:

[Gman]

89. {Placed in my back pocket for future use!}

[awoke_in_2003]

95. Don't knock it...

it has kept me from getting attacked by Bigfoot for the last 40 years :)

[hfojvt]

57. you make the Jets proud

cracko-jacko

[Richlu]

58. That was so entertaining!

Thanks, it made my afternoon.

And I'll try not to think about the losers who don't understand who made the economy collapse.

[madokie]

61. Don't back down from the toadies

is what I say.
rec
Oh yes you done good, damn good in fact. :hi:

[nyc 4 Biden]

67. ...

:fistbump:

[sarcasmo]

70. Classic smackdown.

[Enthusiast]

75. Three cheers to you, BlueJazz.

Your responses were right on the money.

[Initech]

79. I honestly believe anyone who thinks Bush kept us safe should lose their voting privileges.

[awoke_in_2003]

81. K&R...

I just read your comment in your profile. I was thinking about the bullshit we teach kids- things like Santa, and that little song you reference. Makes you wonder how they trust us when they get older.

[Gman]

87. "Oh that's brilliant...right.. " I love it!

This is what I posted about a few weeks ago. We need to get in their faces and stay there.

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/Gman/117

[mudplanet]

90. It's not nice to tease the mentally handicapped

But it can be fun.

[WhaTHellsgoingonhere]

91. Great story. I guess that guy better start pimping...

...homes in a different neighborhood.

:yourock:

But I have to say, he wouldn't have looked very presentable at the next property with a bloodied nose. lol

[Swagman]

92. the working man/woman built the country. Without them there would be

no rich people

[Laura PourMeADrink]

96. Next time say "Bush kept us safe? What about on 9-11" nt

[lucca18]

97. Thank You BlueJazz !!

Good for you......as I smile with delight!!

[BlueJazz]

101. Thank you and Welcome to DU. :)

[savalez]

99. That jackarse Realtor has a serious case of amnesia.

Notice how he resolved to violence when he was cornered with facts. Typical. Well done.

[TomClash]

106. I'm still laughing.

"If I turn around and clap my hands 3 times every day, no tigers are going to attack me at night."

:rofl:

[customerserviceguy]

111. I worked in title insurance for the better part of 25 years

The difference between a realtwhore and a bucket of shit?

The bucket.

[Dawson Leery]

112. Presidential Daily Briefing, August 6, 2001.

That is all.

[derby378]

114. You're today's Best DUer!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBpJGofk6CY

:headbang::headbang::headbang:

[DeadEyeDyck]

117. you shoulda kicked him in the nuts

[BobTheSubgenius]

118. Sometimes, one just has to let it all go.

Today was your day, and I bet it felt great! :)

[go west young man]

119. Realtors are actually largely responsible for the housing crisis.

http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/summary.php?id=D000000062

They heavily lobbied congress to make it easier for people who couldn't afford homes to be able to.
Many laws were changed due to their greed. They had their cake and ate it and now many of them are
looking for other jobs because there are no commissions in a crashed housing market.

[madmax]

123. I luv you. Bravo, well done. nt

[ExPatLeftist]

125. "Kept us safe"

The 3000+ killed on September 11th, 2001 might disagree with that assessment of BushCo.

That concept is a huge propaganda success - the notion that the people that allowed the worst terrorist attack on US soil somehow "kept us safe" makes Orwell chuckle, I am sure. We need to call them on their bullshit every time and not allow this flat-out lie to gain any more ground.

OP, great smackdown!

[Raoul]

127. Kudos!!

Good for you! And, as the earliest responder said - 'that's why I don't engage with strangers either'. I look at it this way, when I meet a stranger, there's a 50-50 chance that he/she voted for bush and the other war criminals so why bother to waste a breath on them?

[Hubert Flottz]

128. Haul off and

tell them how it really is. Feels GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD!

[quaker bill]

129. I get where you are coming from

But there is little point in arguing with the uneducable. There is a moment of satisfaction one gets causing them to stutter, stammer, and fume, but they will learn nothing from it. No person can argue these folks out of the misconceptions on which they found their entire view of reality. Reality itself might be able to pull this off, but only if conditions get much, much worse for all of us. Even then, some will go to their graves "death of a salesman" style, doing all the wrong stuff and bitterly disappointed that somehow it never worked.

All we can do is ignore them, beat them soundly at the polls, and use the power to make the country a better place. Their biggest concern is that somehow we will do all "the wrong things" and it will actually work. We should not disappoint.

[geckosfeet]

130. Keep your head down brother.

[TheCowsCameHome]

138. Did he have KoolAid stains on his shirt?

I'll bet he did.

[WinkyDink]

139. "(Balls fist) maybe you need some sense put in your head." = ASSAULT.You DID report this guy, no??

[irislake]

140. Why don't you get into a fight with your right-wing president and all your traitorous right-wing

Democratic politicians. You have been conned into fighting the GOP and tea-party nuts when you truly have a one-party system. Horrible to watch Americans futilely fighting each other instead of the Insurance Companies and the corporate lobbyists and Wall Street.

[lonestarnot]

141. JD Powers and Chamber of Commerce would not approve your message!

K & R!!!!!!!! Shoulda punched him out! Then asked him how safe he felt. :P Thanks for sharing!

[RoccoR5955]

144. I would have let the bass turd hit me

Then sued her for all she's worth, and stated, "Now who's rich, and who's not?"

[RegieRocker]

149. I would go many miles on your behalf!