I've changed my mind, I'm hoping Weiner fights this and stays

[quinnox]

At first I thought it was time for him to resign. It was my knee jerk reaction. Yea, it was a dumb thing he did, I still think so. But now that I see all these wimpy Dems not lifting a finger to help him, and all the conservatives gleeful and celebrating this, I think I was wrong, fuck it, he should fight this and stay right where he is.

Especially since it has been reported his wife and the people in his district are still behind him, that is what is important! Why should he bow to all this pressure mainly being generated by right wing professional smear merchants, why let them win?

I don't know what the final outcome will be, but I'm glad he isn't listening to the cowards at the Dem party HQ who are running away from him as fast as they can. They are probably doubly happy that a solid progressive like Weiner is being hanged. That way, there are more conservative and centrist Dems to work with!

[juajen]

1. Democrats show in many ways that they are wimps. I totally agree. He should stay.

[monmouth]

17. Feel free to write him an e-mail. These are dark days for him so

I would imagine any encouraging words would be welcome. [e-mail] is the address..

[Vincardog]

48. I wrote and told him to stay until the 'family values' frauds resigned

[delunapark]

50. Done

n/t

[quinnox]

19. Good to see you

Yea, I know I'm on the right track when I see you agreeing, I almost always agree with your posts!

[arbusto_baboso]

29. Not wimps. Unprincipled. Far more unprincipled than Weiner is accused of being.

[notadmblnd]

2. I think he should stay too.

and if he is really smart, connect his resignation to Clarence Thomas's resignation as it was suggested at another site. Any time he's questioned by media he should take the opportunity to connect the issue of his being taken out- with Thomas's indiscretions regarding his wife's finances. I think that he should spend as much time in the media as he possibly can.

[sce56]

49. Add David Vitter to that list! n/t

[sabrina 1]

3. Yes, that is the bigger picture. I'm glad people are beginning to see it.

Dems have no spine as we all know and they have bad judgement regarding these things as they follow the lead of Republicans each time Breitbart et al point a finger at one of their own.

If you have a Twitter acct. EFerrari has created a hashtag on twitter to gain support for him.


Oops, thought I had it here. I will post it again when I find it in this thread.

[marions ghost]

23. glad to hear

:thumbsup: EFerrari

[glinda]

4. I also think that he should stay provided no legal Gov. rulers have been broken that call for

him to step down.

[aquart]

16. Oh, I don't mind breaking a ruler over his knuckles.

I'm pretty sure he's earned that.

[glinda]

32. I have been making mistakes all day. I think I need a nap.

[Bozita]

5. Recommended!

[barbtries]

6. glad to see you've changed your mind.

yesterday i let him know it by tweeting #FightBackTony - the day before i left a message at his Kew Gardens office - DC voice mail full, email only for constituents. i think we should all let him know that he does have a lot of people who do not want him to resign.

[sabrina 1]

7. Here's the hashtag for twitter

#FightBackTony

[quinnox]

10. Great, I don't use twitter but I'm sure that will

come in handy for all those who have it and use it! We need to show he has our support.

[soleft]

8. If his wife and district are behind him, who I am to judge?

I don't like the fact that he panicked and lied, but much like Clinton, he was entrapped into doing so. It's not like he has control of the football or anything.

[aquart]

14. Ted Kennedy panicked and lied, too, I remember.

After somebody died? BUT HE STILL LED AN ACTIVE, PRODUCTIVE, AND USEFUL LIFE FOR HIS STATE AND COUNTRY.

Not one of our heroes could have met the standards we are insisting on for Anthony Weiner.

[quinnox]

15. Yes, exactly

If the people who put him in office and his wife are backing him, then it makes his case much stronger for him to fight this.

[immoderate]

41. I am disappointed that a rare progressive voice left himself so vulnerable.

Yet, he did nothing to be removed from office. He didn't break faith with his constituents interests, and his private life, however fucked up, is not my concern.

Looks like he blew running for president too.

But his boss is politics, and the game continues.

--imm

[Beavker]

51. The voters will decide

Difference between Wiener and say a Teabagging GOP'er that get's caught with dope or on a sexcapade (gay or straight)? Wiener didn't get elected by Bible Thumping Homophobes. As deplorible and idiotic as what he did was (the lying was the worst), the people that elected him aren't as 'touchy' shall we say about these issues. When your consituents are Homophobics and Bible Thumpers, it's not good when they find out your hired a Male Escort or have been cheating on your wife.

The people that voted him in will decide.

[aquart]

9. Fog of hysteria is lifting?

On the soap opera boards it usually takes three days before any rational thought sets in.

But that's only anecdotal observation. Someone really needs to do a study.

[quinnox]

13. I can't disagree

I let myself get taken in by the hysteria, but I realize it was the wrong thing to do.

[aquart]

Well, you don't have soap opera board experience.

Really, by a magnitude of 10.

[Shagbark Hickory]

11. Welcome to the "I've seen the light party". We're known as "lightbaggers" nt

[frebrd]

12. K&R! n/t

[Tippy]

18. He should STAY...and work harder.....

[Waiting For Everyman]

20. K&R

[jimlup]

21. I agree that he should stay...

Just think about it for a moment. He didn't do anything criminal. He didn't abuse campaign laws. He didn't take kickbacks. This whole thing is an absurd result of our societies obsession with sex and personalities. We need to back off and realize that Weiner is a voice we value and should support. No, we don't have to support his actions but we support his voice and thus we should support him staying.

My God, I mean, I think I would be more upset at him if I found out he didn't wash his hands after going to the bathroom. This thing is absurd. Sure his wife should be mad at him but why are we?

Politically, I think he just has to lay low and wait for the weather to change - and it will.

[quinnox]

22. great points

I agree with all of them. This is an ABSURD ATTEMPTED TAKEDOWN of a good man.

[northoftheborder]

24. What he did was juvenile and stupid. But - progressive Democrats are an endangered breed.

I hope he toughs it out and refuses to resign.

[EFerrari]

25. Please get on Twitter and use #FightBackTony to show your support.

I think a lot of people went through the same process you did. Our sense of proportion is kicking back in.

[DevonRex]

26. I'm not jumping on either bandwagon yet. Nt

[marions ghost]

27. Thanks for seeing the big picture

:kick: :fistbump: :kick:

[closeupready]

28. Agreed. K&R

nt

[demosincebirth]

30. Everybody fucks up. Most of us don't get caught.

.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

31. He's been a bad boy but he's a good man. K&R

[JDPriestly]

33. Thanks. I agree with you, quinnox.

I'd rather a congressman be making a fool of himself sex texting than to be sold out to lobbyists. And Weiner is not sold out to lobbyists. For the most part, the ones who want him to leave are.

It would be nice to have someone who wasn't sold out and did not sex-text, but we don't have that choice.

[WillyT]

34. Me Too !!! - K & R !!!

:kick:

[thanks_imjustlurking]

35. In a perfect world, I'd say he should resign.

But it's far from that, and I'm sick of R's getting away with stuff and then snickering at us behind their hands.

[snot]

36. Didn't something like half of all US prez's commit adultery? In any case, to me,

pols' personal lives are irrelevant.

Correction: per http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/stories/adultery022098.htm ,

"At least 13 U.S. presidents -- and that's probably a low estimate -- have managed to faithfully execute their duties to the nation while exercising their executive privilege with the ladies. Clinton, if the rumors are true, joins the list . . . "

[Kaleva]

37. Fighting for one's job is not the same as pleading to keep it.

General Patton doesn't come to mind when I read articles about Rep. Weiner and his efforts to keep his job.

[leftygolfer]

38. Punishment should fit crime

And in this instance, there was no crime. I'm sure he's got enough "punishment" at home.

Is it possible we're not considering that he's not happy in his marraige and thus, he needs an outlet elsewhere?

[eridani]

39. If he does resign, he should refuse to do it unless Vitter the Shitter also resigns. n/t

[disillusioned73]

45. Great point, the media would back away so quickly..

hang Vitter and Clerance Thomas on this issue and you will see how quickly Repubs/ConservaDems STFU

[LadyHawkAZ]

40. Happy to K&R

[MrMickeysMom]

42. Good!

I admire your thinking mind!

I don't know where it will go either, but none of it should stand in the way of representing his District in NYS, damn it.

[Art_from_Ark]

43. K&R

:kick:

[disillusioned73]

44. Good for you... I didn't get sucked into the hysteria myself..

I chose to take a wait & see approach.. but I can understand some of the hard feelings around here. Especially the folks that were defending him from the outset. They feel betrayed because of his initial reaction (lies), but when you take a step back his actions do not warrant the media circus that even til last night has yet to let up.

And when you see who is turning their back on him from the Dem side, c'mon lets be real - Tim f'cking Cain?? I mean when did he ever go after a Repub issue like he did on this one. It's not like he didn't have any opportunities - I am so sick of these conservadems!! Primary all their f'cking corporatist asses!!

[Overseas]

46. Wish Dems had all said-- After Vitter Resigns we'll talk to Anthony.

Or had said-- Let him continue serving like Ensign did, and only step aside if he's about to be expelled.

[BrklynLiberal]

47. I am with you. I am sad and disappointed at this stupidity but he is a voice in the wilderness.

[sce56]

52. Whenever they say he should quit cite David, Diaper Man, Vitter!

Having paid for sex with a prostitute and getting away scott free shows how the Family Moral Values Party deals with even worse behavior and actual prosecutable crimes! By the way we can not ask the DC Madame how she sees it since she took her own life by being suicide-ed!