Doesn't This Just Say It ALL ??? - Current HuffPo Front Page...

[WillyT]

JP Morgan Exec.. Opposed Health Care Bill.. Didn't Back Consumer Protection..
And Obama's New Chief Of Staff


Link: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/

:wtf:

:banghead:

[Myrina]

1. ... if there was ever ANY doubt who POTUS works for ...

... it should be laid to rest as of today. Clue: it ain't US. :thumbsdown:

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[Riftaxe]

2. Your forgetting the inherent integrity

that the name daley brings with it!

[valerief]

4. You're confusing that with The "Daily" Show. nt

[somone]

5. Huge name recognition

with well-known odor

[valerief]

3. Yep! nt

[muffin1]

6. So typical...

haters gonna hate. :sarcasm:

K&R

[lark]

40. Enablers will keep on pretending that the sky isn't blue

because Obama said not. Sad.

[FiveGoodMen]

7. Yes it does.

We've been had.

[nc4bo]

8. Actions always speak louder than pretty words. nt

[ladjf]

9. We've learned what to expect from our President in terms of

political decisions. nt

[meow mix]

10. my opinion is against the terms of service

so i wont say it.

[WillyT]

25. LOL !!!

I hear ya.

:rofl:

:hi:

[L0oniX]

27. +1

[readmoreoften]

36. +1. Many of our opinions are now against the terms of service.

It's getting to the point of absurdity (or at least barbarity) to tow the line anymore.

[femrap]

38. So does this mean I

can't say that this decision to put Daley, a Corporate C*cksucker, as Chief of Staff sucks???

Just askin'

[AngryAmish]

11. People don't understand that our President is a product of the Machine

Two people run the Machine, Rich Daley and Mike Madigan. Do you think they would let the President run the country without supervision?

[Newest Reality]

12. I think you have to see for yourself how the system

works. Who can tell you? The who, what, why and where are secondary aspects of the process itself. The next question is then, for whom?

It works exceedingly well in many ways ON millions of people and is useful and beneficial FOR those who know the process behind the content.

[Dappleganger]

13. He's playing chess, everyone!

:sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm:

[yourout]

14. He is going to be play chess without most of his base come 2012 at this rate.

[Dappleganger]

15. He most certainly is.

He had a chance to change mid-course and has made his choices.

As have I.

[MattSh]

17. Must be DC and the Banksters against everyone else...

like this...

[progressoid]

35. Yep, that's pretty much how it looks to me.

And as one of the pawns, I feel a checkmate in our future.

[Autumn]

31. One could say, he's playing

us.:shrug:

[jwirr]

16. Yes, and doesn't it just give you a sick feeling in your gut?

[Toucano]

18. Spread the greed! n/t

[Lucky 13]

19. Message received. nt

[Cleita]

21. Howard Dean likes him.

He thinks he might be okay because he listens to people.

:shrug:

[Dappleganger]

22. He also trusted Obama...

as did many of us. We've been had.

[lark]

42. We've been more than had

we've been back stabbed, front stabbed and had our legs cut out from under us. He is not "my" president anymore, he's the spokesperson for the large corporations.

[Moosepoop]

23. No, context says it all.

Daley was not opposing the health care bill when he issued that quote to the New York Times. He was speaking to why he felt the bill had lost support among the general public. The NYT article was about "The Limits of Rahmism" and detailed, among other things, the health care fight, including the machinations of the Republicans and the loss of public support for the measure along the way.


http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/14/magazine/14emanuel-t.html?pagewanted=6&_r=1

While many of the provisions of the health care bill were individually popular with the public, the collective size of the package — roughly $1 trillion over a decade — left some voters with sticker shock. Even though the plan was, at least in theory, paid for by spending cuts, cost savings and new taxes on wealthier Americans or expensive insurance plans, the idea of an enormous project coming after the hundreds and hundreds of billions already devoted to bank bailouts, auto bailouts and the stimulus package amid skyrocketing deficits proved too much for a lot of the public.

“They miscalculated on health care,” Daley, the former commerce secretary, told me. “The election of ’08 sent a message that after 30 years of center-right governing, we had moved to center left — not left.” Other Democrats say Obama simply overestimated his capacity to bring Republicans into the fold. “They were duped,” said a Democratic member of Congress who did not want to be identified criticizing the White House. “Maybe a little naïve. I don’t think Rahm was, but the president himself.”

As for "failing to back" the creation of a consumer protection agency, let's look at Huffpo's quote from the Wall Street Journal again:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/06/bill-daley-chief-of-staff_n_805184.html

But when White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel called a top J.P. Morgan executive to ask for the bank's support in creating a new consumer-protection agency, the executive--former Commerce Secretary William Daley--said no, according to people familiar with the conversation. His boss believed that sufficient consumer safeguards were already on the books.

So he receives a request, as a bank executive, for the bank he works for to back the creation of the consumer protection agency, and he replies that the bank will not do so because of what his boss says. He was following his boss's orders, which is what an employee (even a high-ranking executive) is supposed to do. Notice that he was not offering his own opinion on the matter -- perhaps it was the same as his boss's, perhaps he felt differently. Either way he cited the boss as his reason for the bank saying no to the request.

All the moaning and wailing is over two old out-of-context statements, which don't amount to a hill of beans. But the moaning and wailing will continue, I'm sure. Tempests in teapots (and moaning and wailing) are rather enjoyable for some.

[killbotfactory]

34. context shmontext

that's not going to get in the way of our daily outrage.

[guruoo]

41. Looks like Huffpo skipped the fact check on this one

In this case they need to either correct the story, or take it down altogether.

[Capn Sunshine]

43. what, and tamp down the outrage of the day?

Huffpo and their followers are like anyone who has whipped up an audience based mostly on outrage. They've got a huge $ trail to chase, and no facts are going to stand in their way.

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[felix_numinous]

26. What are we going to do

in 2012? I think we should think in terms of strategy on this front. Has anyone been thinking about this?

[ProSense]

28. Corporatist:

1. Anyone who opposed health care reform and Wall Street Reform including the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau.

2. Anyone who supported health care reform and Wall Street Reform including the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau.


Not sure what the HuffPo headline is supposed to convey, but there were reports that Rahm opposed health care reform.

The health care law and Wall Street reform are among the President's most significant achievements. In that context, the headline doesn't say much since Daley was hired as the WH's chief administrator, not policy maker.

[Alenne]

29. Neither did a lot of the left on DU. nt

[awoke_in_2003]

30. did a lot of the left oppose...

health care reform as we got it? Damn skippy. Did a lot of the left support single payer, or as a compromise, public option? Again, damn skippy. What we have been given is nothing but a mandate to buy a product from a predatory source, with ZERO regulations on cost of said product. In other words- Romneycare without the magical underpants.

[Lorien]

32. Oh goody, a new general in the class war being waged against us.

:grr:

[russspeakeasy]

37. It may not say it all, but it says a hell of a lot.

[go west young man]

39. We need a progressive party with Howard Dean at the helm..

Kucinich for veep. Grayson for Chief of Staff. And then let's prosecute some crimes.
Starting with the Iraq War, domestic spying, and renditions and torture.
America has to address these issues or it will continue to decline.

[avaistheone1]

44. K&R