Why should Weiner resign?

[Jack_Dawson]

Please forgive me - just back from Europe where all I could watch was CNN International which is annoyingly focused on pertinent topics. And F1 racing.

So...I'm a bit behind in the Weiner scandal. But from what I can piece together, he is Christopher Lee x 100. That said, apparently his constituents still want him to be their representative.

Given that Vitter is still serving after having actual sex w/ other women, why would Weiner resign?

:beer:

[warrior1]

1. dear dog in the backyard

maybe you should check out the other gabillion threads on this subject.

[HelenWheels]

2. He should not. nt

[deaniac21]

3. It's an Oscar Meyer request. He is giving weiners a bad name.

[Broderick]

4. Cause if you are stupid enough

to send pics and have chats with who knows what, setting yourself up for blackmail as a congressional rep you deserve to go. If you doubt me, look through his posts wherein he offers up PR resources to a porn star so she shuts her mouth. Who knows if there is a breibart in drag on the other end or a cute Russian spy so to speak. He is weak.

[Jack_Dawson]

5. Send link

if you would.

[sabrina 1]

41. Briefly, for months, ever since Weiner went after Clarence Thomas

for what have turned out to be some real crimes, (shhh, no one's talking about that now) Breitbart and his rightwing thugs mounted a vicious campaign against Weiner starting a whisper campaign online claiming that he liked 'young girls'. They had the crime, all they needed was to attach Weiner to it. So, they spread out all over the internet, pushing this 'rumor' which so far has not been traced to its original source. They went to his twitter account and studied his supporters, focusing mainly on young high school students, then stalked and harassed them, sometimes posting their personal info on other websites.

They decided that some of them were involved 'sexually' with Weiner without a shred of evidence and said so in tweets which were sent all over the internet, causing a lot of grief to the young women a few of whom deleted their acounts to try to stop it.

After months of patiently attaching themselves to Weiner's twitter acct. finally one night, they fhad a stroke of luck. A Calvin Klein-like photo of grey underwear complete with a bulging penis appeared briefly on their twitter accounts (they were following him so got his messages). It disappeared almost as soon as it appeared but not before the intrepid keyboard warriors got a screen cap of it.

From there on things got pretty bad, for Weiner, and eventually to a lesser extent for the stalkers, who reported the progress of their mission to Daryl Issa. Fox et al got the underwear story, Drudge and the rest of the Media. Weiner was hounded by the press, denied he sent it, claimed his account was hacked, and gave several press conferences and interviews trying to make it go away. Eventually however, he decided to tell the truth. He did send it, it was not meant ot go out on twitter but it did. He confessed to having cyber sex with six women over the past three years.

One of the women sold her 'story' to ABC and presumably some more photos. So, the witch hunt intensified and Democrats, always ready to toss one of their own as fast as possible in case the rightwing might think badly of him, began appearing on TV saying things about the 'dignity of Congress' etc.

This weekend Pelosi, Wasserman, Hoyer et al actually went to work, on the weekend, to ask him to resign. Even the infamous Tom Foley (page-boy lover who was never prosecuted) and Ryan of let's kill medicare fame, chimed in, missing totatlly the irony of a Repub willing to let old people die, and a sexual assaulter of young boys, from the party of family values, actually talking about ethics.

After the polticians had their say, the pollsters went to work, and an amazing thing happened. The public didn't care! With everyone holding their breath over what might come next, a 'bombshell was dropped, a photo of Weiner's penis was released. Back went the pollsters, bets were placed on how long he would last presumably because the American people had never seen a penis before.

But, not only did the American people still not care, it appeared that his poll numbers rose even higher AFTER the release of the photo. His constituents remained strongly behind him, he was cheered when he went out walking in his dist. over the weekend, and then, MORE photos appeared on the scene. These were nowhere near as interesting as the penis shot, imo, not that I looked at any of them to be honest, but sometimes people can't resist posting them.

I'm not sure if any more polls have been taken but my guess is that since he was always viewed as one of the few with the balls to stand up to Republicans, now that people have seen them, they like him even more.

So, that's where it's at right now. One more thing, he has been diagnosed with mental problems because of his engaging in cyber sex, by untold numbers of Dr. Frists all over the media and online, and finally, under pressure has agreed to take a leave of absence and get some help.

But the DC politicians want him gone. Who knows why, since the public doesn't seem to feel his private sex live is their business.

And we are currently awaiting the final chapter at this point. I'm rooting for him and his constituents because unlike the somber-faced politicians who seem to think we've been asleep over the past few years, I don't think a grown man having, not even real sex, but cyber sex, will do too much damage to the 'dignity of Congress' and I hate to see the real bad guys win.

[anAustralianobserver]

47. Good post. It's also disgraceful to see several heads on MSNBC repeating the debunked17yo girl smear

as 'part of the story'. The Dem leadership could have stood with him as a colleague (not a lover or a husband), but they have judged that his personal sexuality and marriage problems critically undermine the whole party's sexual sanctity.

[sabrina 1]

51. Yes, this was a sad episode and one that only required

Democrats to state that since nothing illegal had occurred, a person's sexual life is not the business of Congress and they would leave it to his constituency to decide if they wanted him to continue with the good work he has done there for so long.

Instead they chose to join the Family Values crowd and condemn him. They looked like the mother superiors of a Catholic Girls school, and I doubt they did much for their own reputations either.

[Pterodactyl]

6. Because he went on TV and lied to the American people and the press.

He is not trustworthy and he'll hurt progressives if he stays around until the next election cycle. They'll be able to say - and rightly so if it happens - that we can't police our own.

[Jack_Dawson]

7. Good point...

but again, David Vitter.

[Pterodactyl]

9. "Not as bad as David Vitter" is not a valid defense of Weiner.

He needs to resign so we can regain control of the House.

[Jack_Dawson]

16. He's pretty effective...

though, right? Esp. on healthcare. Why should we turn our back on him because he has some narcissistic issues? :beer:

[baldguy]

21. The guy who knowingly broke the law gets to stay, but the who did nothing wrong must go?

What a skewed sense of "justice".

[aquart]

23. Really. Anthony Weiner's penis matters more than jobs.?

See, that's why I want a t-shirt of the junk shot:

THIS WEINER SUPPORTS SOCIAL SECURITY AND MEDICARE.

[Pterodactyl]

30. Hardly.

"People are unemployed so we can't call for scummy politicians to resign." That's just dumb.

[BeFree]

8. heh... police...hehee

Bush stood there and lied and people died.

Weiner may have hurt a few progressives, but now... NOW... everybody knows who Weiner is.

Through history, Weiner has been a big champion of progressives, but we were all kinda too shy to say his name, and now everyone is talking about The Weiner. PR Coup!

[Pterodactyl]

10. Bush-did-it-too is not a valid defense.

[BeFree]

13. Right

Don't you fucking hate that Bush lied and people died and the press and congress and all those fucking bastards lied to us so that we would think it was all ok? And now they are going after a weiner pic. WTF?

Seriously, don't you fucking hate Bush with more passion than weiner pics? What is more important?

[Pterodactyl]

14. Of course we ALL hate Bush with an undying passion. But he's retired and yesterday's news.

[BeFree]

15. Yesterday's news??

They have you right where they want you. Sad.

Today's knews: "Forget bush, grab the weiner." And here you are; reaching hard, eh?

[Pterodactyl]

28. Actually I'm more worried about the CURRENT president and what he's doing.

And here you are, monitoring the internet for more Weiner activity while we get more involved in wars all over the world, give away billions to the rich, curb civil rights, and gut unions. Sounds like he's got YOU by the Weiner.

[BeFree]

31. Heh

Nice attack try.

Doesn't faze me a bit. Your ""yesterday's news"" shtick, however, was a pain in the ass.

[Pterodactyl]

33. You should get a cream or something for that pain.

[BeFree]

35. hahaha Cream? For Pterodacktile problems? Hahaa

What I find remarkable is that now everyone knows who Weiner is, and we are all talking about him.
He has more PR these last weeks than Obama, or Palin, or anyone.

Old political saying: "Say what ever you want about me, just make sure you spell my name right."

[Pterodactyl]

38. And Weiner it is really hard. People mix up the EI and the IE.

Also, notice how I skillfully worked "hard" into that. Har har!

[sabrina 1]

29. Bush lied about war. He didn't 'do it too' I wish he had.

If Bush had only done what Weiner did, over one million human beings would be alive today. We would not have become a pariah to the rest of the world and tortured victims of his policies would not suffer the consequences for the rest of their lives.

The economy would not have collapsed and there would not be who knows how many crooked Wall St. Bankers running around with our money while Americans are of work.

Millions of people would not have lost their homes and the system of education would never have had to suffer under his NCLB program probably costing at least two generaions of Americans their right to an actual education.

So, personally, I wish someone would have given him a computer, a twitter account and some women to whom he could have sent photos of his penis.

But, Weiner is a Democrat, and worse, he's a Liberal. He should have know that Liberal Democrats are not allowed to have sex without grave consequences. He must have thought he was a Republican or something.

Because if he was a Repubican, no one would be calling for his resignation.

[Quantess]

11. I thought Vitter just did kinky stuff like have hookers change his poopy diapers.

This is the first I have heard of *actual sex* with hookers.

[LadyHawkAZ]

12. Because he's not a eunuch

apparently this qualifies as a mental illness in some quarters.

No particular good reason, really. The Anti-Sex League is fainting over the fact that he had sex chats with women not his wife...no wait, it was because he sent dirty pics over the Internet...no, that wasn't it, it was because he's lost credibility...no wait, it was because he embarrassed the Democrat brand... no, wait, it was...shit. I'm not sure where the goalpost has moved to today. I'll get back to ya.

[Warrior Dash]

17. Because his brain is smaller than his penis.

[pnwmom]

19. +1. n/t

[BeFree]

25. Question, wd

Is your penis smaller than your brain?

Or are you just talking trash?

[baldguy]

18. Because the GOP talking points are too numerous to counter.

They're all the same, and they're all based on lies, but because of them the Dems have convinced themselves that getting rid of Weiner is

!!!!!THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE IN THE ENTIRE WORLD!!!!!

The Republicans are laughing their asses off.

[pnwmom]

20. Why would he resign? Because Pelosi wants him to, and so does Obama.

Vitter probably didn't spend 10 days lying to his party head when his scandal erupted, as we know Weiner did. He didn't trust Pelosi with the truth, and so he held more than one lying press conference. Why should she ever trust him?

[sabrina 1]

32. His constituents trust him. Pelosi should mind her own business

If Republicans raise the issue, all she has to do is laugh, ask them if they are kidding and point to Vitter and Craig and Newt and Arnold and all the other family values guys, the stars of the Republican party. But she's not willing to do that for some reason.

But, she doesn't even have to do that since the public have said they don't care. So why does she? That's what I would like to know.

[pnwmom]

34. She's the Democratic leader, so this IS her business. nt

[BeFree]

37. I never voted for her

She has no right to cause problems until she declaims the "impeachment off the table" crap. imo

[pnwmom]

39. Weiner voted for her. n/t

[BeFree]

40. He probably did.

Another mistake he made.
And much worse than what people here are wallowing around in the mud for.

Pelosi has sold out one of the best progressives we've seen in a long time.
Did she ever demand Bush resign? Who really can trust her?

Weiner is one tough democrat. We should all be proud of the way he has stood up to the folks who never asked Bush to get the fuck outta here. And the other low-lifes.

[pnwmom]

43. Yeah, let's all be proud of the guy who shot himself in the balls

and then blamed a "right wing conspiracy."

[BeFree]

44. Eh?

WTF are you yammering about? He didn't shoot ""himself in the balls"". You are way over the line with comments like that. All he did was live out a strong, virile, American male, innocent fantasy.

But it appears you are the one shooting at his balls. Why is that, I wonder: envy?

[pnwmom]

46. Are you kidding? He behaved like a 14 year old kid,

not a 45 year old adult.

And he shot several pictures that included the groin area, albeit while clutching a towel. And then he lied about it for 10 days -- even though he knew all those pictures were out there. All his wounds were self-inflicted.

[kath]

45. well, he and his followers WERE stalked by a vast right wing conspiracy, w/ ties to Issa's office.

[sabrina 1]

49. At least he has some. They appear to be in short supply in DC.

There absolutely was a 'right wing conspiracy' targeting him and his young supporters, just as Hillary said when Bill was a victim of it. She was correct.

[NorthCarolina]

22. He shouldn't. 0ver 56% of his constituents say he should not resign. They are

who he answers to. They overwhelmingly want him to stay, and so he should. The conservative Dems that see this as a golden opportunity to rid their ranks of a Liberal/Progressive voice will hopefully lose this battle.

[TNLib]

36. +1

nt

[Logical]

24. Because he is a pervert.....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1289474

[Laura PourMeADrink]

26. amen

[provis99]

27. how many Congressmen aren't?

[gkhouston]

42. Because he makes people uncomfortable.

And I'm not talking about sexting.

[Rowdyboy]

48. His loss of credibility leaves him valueless ...Who cares if he stays in congress? He has no respect

He screwed himself royally. Stay and be meaningless or go and start over somewhere else. He'll be gone by Thursday.

Probably have a show on MCNBC by Labor day.

[Ferret Annica]

50. I don't like or trust him.

He can't get his credibility back anymore then you can get toothpaste back into the tube. the weiner needs to go.

[Jack_Dawson]

52. On substantive issues (Healthcare) there was no greater advocate.

:beer:

[Pterodactyl]

53. That's why it is such a shame he threw it all away for self-indulgence.