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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-11 09:09 PM
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Britain walks out: UK braced for biggest wave of strikes since the 1980s
from the Independent UK:



Britain walks out: UK braced for biggest wave of strikes since the 1980s
Hundreds of thousands of public employees set to strike, with co-ordinated day of action on 30 June

By Andy McSmith and Nigel Morris
Thursday, 16 June 2011


Britain is facing the largest wave of strikes since the 1980s as about 750,000 public-sector employees stage a protest against threatened changes to their pensions. The Public and Commercial Services (PCS) union yesterday announced that its members had voted to join teachers and university lecturers in a one-day co-ordinated walk-out on 30 June.

There is the prospect of much larger strikes in the autumn, with other unions joining the fight. The ballot by the 300,000-strong PCS provoked fresh hints from the Government that strike laws could be rewritten if there is a return to 1980s-style union militancy.

The strike could force thousands of parents of state school children to take a day off work or make childcare arrangements unless the handful of senior teachers uninvolved in the action keep their schools open.

Three teaching unions with a combined membership of more than 440,000 teachers and lecturers have already voted to strike on 30 June. The PCS's decision to join the co-ordinated protest will mean that job centres, government offices, courts and the Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency will be hit, as well as schools and colleges. Prison staff, community-support police and immigration officials will also be drawn into it. ..............(more)

The complete piece is at: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/britain-walks-out-uk-braced-for-biggest-wave-of-strikes-since-the-1980s-2298105.html



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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-11 09:12 PM
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1. It's going to be a long hot summer
across the globe
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socialist_n_TN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-11 09:24 PM
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2. It looks like it. And it's about time
as far as I'm concerned. THEY need to know we won't lie down. And if we can't do it here, maybe the rest of the world will show US how it's done.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-11 09:47 PM
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12. The reason things have reached this far has been
our docile behavior.
It's time to fight back
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socialist_n_TN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-11 10:42 PM
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18. Word! And that word IS
solidarity! :fistbump: :)
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-11 09:47 PM
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13. a hot summer indeed!
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HFCanMan Donating Member (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-11 09:30 PM
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3. And yet we wonder why people hate unions.
I'm not saying I disagree with the Unions actions, I fully support them.

The thing is most people don't care what they are going on strike for and why, they simply care they had to make other arrangements and were inconvenienced.

IN my mind such large strikes can only hurt the unions.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-11 09:34 PM
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4. "And yet we wonder why people hate unions."
Perhaps you should start hanging with a different crowd. Nobody in my social circle hates unions.


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HFCanMan Donating Member (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-11 09:39 PM
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5. Right now in Canada...
Canada post and Air Canada are on strike.

Simply being out in town I hear tons of genitive things about the unions because on a simple inconvenience. Many people only care about themselves and won't deal with the minuscule inconvenience that will in turn benefit everyone.

If they can't send a letter or send their kids to school nothing else matters to many.

If only I could have recoded the conversations while I was having my coffee today.

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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-11 09:51 PM
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16. Too bad, strikes are supposed to inconvenience people.
If they were paying attention at all, they would walk the picket lines in solidarity; if those people that only care about themselves are put out a little bit over it, they deserve to be put out.

Anyone that is anti-Union is lower than whale shit, and deserves their lot in life.


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novealphtang Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 04:48 AM
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24. Funny that you should brng up whales....
...because the whaling industry in Japan is a good example of a union acting ore like a particularly noxious MNC. Harming the global commons permanently so that they can save their butts may not be quite as odious as doing so so the top shareholders can make an even grater return on their investment,yet it still stinks. I dont want to minimize the huge unemployment problem Japan has, but for the economic viability of Japanese seaside villages,the fishing industry is killing off what cannot be restored to the environment.
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laundry_queen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 12:10 AM
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21. That sounds pretty much par for the course where I am as well.
Seems like everyone has turned into a narcissist when they talk about the postal strike.
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socialist_n_TN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-11 09:40 PM
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6. So, we should just take what the capitalists determine
Edited on Wed Jun-15-11 09:41 PM by socialist_n_TN
that we're worth? We shouldn't fight back at all? Remember the only thing that the working class has is their labor. And the ability to withhold that labor. \

Anyway, that sounds like a pretty damn big action. Perhaps most of the people will support the action. It's not like they won't have time to make other arrangements. Maybe EVERYBODY should decide to strike. Make it a national holiday.
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HFCanMan Donating Member (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-11 09:45 PM
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8. No...
we shouldn't and yes we should fight back.

I think it's essential to fight back but I don't know if some strikes are a good idea in general. The one in the story seams okay, but the ones that stretch into the weeks are huge issues.

I personally like rotating strikes. Canada Posts Union was doing those and costing the company a lot of money, yet not causing so much of a disturbance to lose support. Now Canada post has locked them out and they've gotten even more support.
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socialist_n_TN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-11 09:51 PM
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15. I have no problem with rotating strikes either
Especially while a revolutionary situation is building. Rotating, limited general strikes, even illegal wildcat strikes. No problems with any of them while things are building. Ask your buds what they will do when the capitalists break the unions all together. Because make no mistake, that's their goal. So, who's side are they on? That's the key question.
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whatchamacallit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-11 09:41 PM
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7. Snark delete n/t
Edited on Wed Jun-15-11 09:53 PM by whatchamacallit
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HFCanMan Donating Member (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-11 09:45 PM
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10. Of which..
I'm neither. I explained my opinion in my other replies.
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whatchamacallit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-11 09:52 PM
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17. Dig
I'll fix it.
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-11 09:45 PM
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9.  strikes help unions, for many reasons
there's a large literature showing this

as for the idiots who cannot see beyond their bubble: they're just ignorant, selfish, and myopic
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HFCanMan Donating Member (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-11 09:46 PM
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11. I agree but...
"
as for the idiots who cannot see beyond their bubble: they're just ignorant, selfish, and myopic"

I've found that to be a terrible amount of people.
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-11 09:47 PM
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14. You don't fully support unions if you don't support their right to strike.
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-11 10:47 PM
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19. Political consciousness is far more advanced in the UK than in the
U.S. Yes, people in the UK will be inconvenienced by the general strike but they also understand far better than the working class here what the stakes are. Such large strikes, far from hurting the unions, can actually accomplish a lot of positive societal change.
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Hugabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-11 11:46 PM
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20. You don't quite grasp the concept of unions, do you?
It's not as if union workers enjoy going on strike. Strikes are usually a means of last resort, when all other methods have been tried.

Strikes are designed to not only shut down productivity, but to also draw public attention to the workers' plight. They're supposed to be inconvenient.

By the way, I hope you realize that many of the working conditions you take for granted were fought for and won by unions. Do yo enjoy having weekends off? Do you enjoy having vacation time? Do you like overtime pay? Do you appreciate being able to work in a safe environment?
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 04:12 AM
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22. Um, most people DO know why they're going on strike
They're striking over the ConDem's insane austerity measures, everyone knows this and a good portion of the public agrees with them.
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 04:18 AM
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23. Huzzah!
I'm a Brit and the unions here have been very clear about what their problem is (the insane cuts by the ConDems that will put up to a million out of work) and a fair portion of the public agrees with them (I certainly do). Given how hated the ConDems are only a year after they snuck into power, the government will be lucky to see out half a term.
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