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DonCoquixote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-11 11:48 PM
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Should Weiner go?
No, not one second before Vitter does.

That does not mean we cannot yell at Tony and wonder WTF was he thinking?
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leftistboy Donating Member (89 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-11 11:50 PM
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1. who cares?
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-11 11:59 PM
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4. He's effectively finished....Democrats are held to a different standard...
Edited on Thu Jun-16-11 12:01 AM by Rowdyboy
No, it isn't fair but it is fact. The MSM will hound Pelosi et al until they take away his committee assignments but it won't come to that. I expect he'll resign over the weekend.

I truly hope I'm wrong but I doubt it. Someday maybe someone will explain to me why Vitter and Ensign were allowed to stay and Craig could finish his term yet Anthony Weiners' cock shot was unthinkable.. Why are the rules so different?
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 12:22 AM
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5. I agree with you on all points and I don't get it, either.
If you remember, every single time we were sure that Bush* had finally crossed the the line for the last time, that there finally had to be some kind of retribution/huge reaction, something bigger would come along to distract us and nothing ever happened. I don't know why, either, but it's still happening... :shrug: :(
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 12:36 AM
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6. I've only got one explanation for your question
Vitter and Ensign engaged in prostitution and adultery, respectfully. Those two things have existed for millennia, and they're understandable on a gut level to a lot of people. Sending random people narcissistic pictures of yourself is a very recent phenomenon, and it evokes the 'strange' label for a lot of people who simply would never do such a thing.

Logical? No, but as an explanation, it's the best one I can come up with.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 12:40 AM
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7. Republicans don't turn on each other. Or, they very rarely do.
It's pretty obvious that the district doesn't want him gone. Who know how his wife feels. But the Democrats want him out.
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BlueCaliDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 01:39 AM
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14. That's what they said about Barney Frank...but look at him now.
Democrats need to take a page out of the Republican playbook if they don't want to be seen as a bunch of wimps. We know they're not, but that's how they're being perceived, and that's why they get NO respect from asshole journalists.

Democrats are the party of younger people, even young adults, and what Anthony did was not such a huge shocker in their eyes. In fact, it's more common than you think, and the young adults are all surprised this is such a big deal.

The Republicans lost NY-26 because of Ryan's VoucherCare. So, naturally, you'd think the Republicans would tell Ryan to STFU. But no. In fact, they all rushed to circle the wagons around him, and keep steadfast on script. They didn't throw Ryan under the wagon wheels like the Democrats would've done. They stood by him.

If the Democrats learned to stand united, and stop using the "it's like corralling cats" excuse all the time, maybe, just maybe, we would've had a public option by now. Maybe, just maybe, we would've had BK reform that would allow judges to restructure the mortgage like the rich people get on their 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, etc., homes.

The Democrats should stop the exasperated "it's like corralling cats!" and turn it into, "united we stand. Divided we fall."

They can start with Anthony,and either STFU or if they speak, stand by him.

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Shrek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 08:18 AM
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21. I'm not so sure about a different standard
What about Chris Lee?

When it was revealed that sent a shirtless photo from his Blackberry, he resigned from Congress the same day and a Democrat now holds that seat.
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 01:00 PM
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22. Thats true....I've wondered if maybe there wasn't more that never came out
because he resigned so quickly.
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 12:46 AM
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8. To be perfectly fair there is in fact a difference
Vitter paid for prostitutes. Weiner on the other hand by his own admission was sending unsolicited crotch pics to someone who was following him on Twitter and with whom he'd corresponded. The former is consensual (illegal in most jurisdictions, and hypocritical, but consensual nonetheless); the latter isn't consensual and is more or less the equivalent of exposing oneself to an acquaintance. If he'd done this in person instead of sending the pictures online I doubt he'd have as many defenders, quite honestly.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 01:35 AM
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12. Uh huh. The difference is between legal and illegal.
Sexting is not illegal.

But I adore the Vitter whitewash. I'm pretty sure that the dialog read on Bill Maher was entirely consensual.

BTW, do YOU save unsolicited photos?
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 01:47 AM
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16. No, but sending unsolicited crotch shots to strangers is fucking creepy.
Whether it's legal or not. And prostitution? Between consenting adults, shouldn't be illegal. I'm being perfectly consistent here; my issue with Weiner is that he's a creepy narcissist who sent unsolicited crotch pics to women. I find this to be quite frankly far more disturbing and questionable behaviour than a consensual albeit paid encounter with a prostitute. (Vitter is a hypocrite, clearly, and should resign, I didn't say he shouldn't, actually, just that there is a difference.)
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 12:50 AM
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9. ""But.. but. . but. . . Davey did it FIRST!" - That's not the argument of a grown-up.
It's an argument befitting of a child decidedly less bright than Stewie.

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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 01:37 AM
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13. Yes, do belittle Weiner's defenders.
It helps distract from the orchestrated political assassination part of the story.

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Kaleva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 12:55 AM
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10. I don't care about Vitter but Weiner should not go (resign).
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pipoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 01:01 AM
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11. I don't know, but anyone who starts yet another Weiner thread should..eom
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 01:40 AM
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15. LOL
:thumbsup:
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novealphtang Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 05:12 AM
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17. Unfortunately yes because he will hurt the Dems..
..but it would've been hilarious to have a Rep who we've all seen the actual size of his cajones, not just what he brags about hanging down there
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kstewart33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 07:44 AM
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18. This issue/question has been debated to death at DU.
If you want discussion, refer to the hundreds of previous postings.

Time to move on, isn't it?
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 07:47 AM
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The only constant in American politics is hypocrisy.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 07:47 AM
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19. The Folks In Louisiana Think Soliciting Hookers Is Just Dandy...
That's why they re-elected Diaper Boy last year. We'll see if the folks from Cong. Weiner's district feel the same way next year when he runs for re-election.

All the rest of the bloviating is verbal masturbation...
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Unvanguard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 07:48 AM
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20. No. He shouldn't even have taken leave. He should have told the truth immediately
and then refused to play the absurd game of his critics.
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 01:01 PM
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23. Not for me to decide.
Only his constituants should say whether he stays or goes. :shrug:
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