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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 06:13 AM
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The End of Capitalism and the Wellsprings of Radical Hope (The Nation)
http://www.thenation.com/article/161237/end-capitalism-and-wellsprings-radical-hope

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Why should we want to reinvent capitalism? Rather than reinvent it, we should remind ourselves why capitalism is so pernicious. We could start by stating the obvious (which, apparently, needs restating): the nature and logic of capitalism are incorrigibly avaricious. As a property system driven by the need to maximize profit and production, capitalism is a giant, ever-whirling vortex of accumulation. Anything but conservative, it’s the most dynamic and protean economy in history. As Marx observed in the opening pages of The Communist Manifesto, capitalism thrives on constant reinvention: “The bourgeoisie cannot exist without constantly revolutionizing the instruments of production, and thereby the relations of production, and with them the whole relations of society.” Always seeking new ways to make money, capitalists have reinvented the system several times already. Enclosures, factories, Fordism, automation and “flexible production”—metamorphosis for the sake of profit is the only constant in capitalism. Each incarnation has featured new brands of exploitation and corruption, designed and packaged by masters of economic and managerial sophistry.

To be sure, reformers have been partially successful at shaping these reinventions: collective bargaining, regulations of business, the welfare state. Whatever victories for justice working people have won have been hard-fought and tenuous, the fruit of protracted struggle. But however ingenious or effective the reforms, they’ve been limited, if not eventually subverted, by the intractably mercenary nature of capitalism. As we can see from the history of the past forty years—an era that has been marked by a transatlantic assault on social democracy and New Deal/Great Society liberalism—the rage to accumulate remains the predatory heart and soul of capitalism. We have good reason to assume that capitalists will always seek and find fresh ways to cast off the fetters and vanquish their opponents.

But the iniquity of capitalism goes deeper than its injustice as a political economy, its amoral ingenuity in technical prowess or its rapacious relationship to the natural world. However lissome its face or benign its manner, capitalism compels us to be greedy, callous and petty. It takes what the Greeks called pleonexia—an endless hunger for more and more—and transforms it from a tawdry and dangerous vice into the central virtue of the system. The sanctity of “growth” in capitalist culture stems from this moral alchemy, as does the elevation of market competition into a model of human affairs.

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Warrior Dash Donating Member (175 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 07:54 AM
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1. It is interesting to note that "the welfare state" is considered to be a "success."
Socialism is nothing more than a social system that rewards vice and punishes virtue.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 08:05 AM
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2. Like the unemployed who have had their jobs shipped away
in the quest for slave like labor?
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Fool Count Donating Member (878 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 08:24 AM
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3. You've got it all confused with capitalism,
since the definition you gave describes it to a tee.
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hifiguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 09:06 AM
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4. You are aware that this is a Democratic site, aren't you?
Enjoy your stay. It will be a short one.
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Warrior Dash Donating Member (175 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 09:28 AM
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5. Yes; however, as evidenced by your avatar, you may not know that.
Perhaps you are even in the wrong country. Have you ever considered immigrating to Cuba or Venezuela?

Democrats stand for the values of hard work and responsibility, and we know that as a country we are most successful when we invest in our people—middle-class families and small business owners—who can grow our economy from the bottom up. Together, we have begun to lay a new foundation for growth, building an economy that works for all Americans.
http://www.democrats.org/issues/economy_and_job_creation


Capitalism is a Democratic value.
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hifiguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 09:32 AM
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6. Democracy is a political system.
Capitalism is an economic system. They are not coextensive nor is one required for the other.

I am an economic/structural Marxist but a proponent of Scandinavian-style social democracy. And those countries are among the freest on earth and have the happiest populaces.

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Warrior Dash Donating Member (175 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 11:30 AM
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10. Capitalism is more than just an economic system--it is a socio-economic system.
Edited on Thu Jun-16-11 11:33 AM by Warrior Dash
The Scandinavian countries are not Marxist, they are capitalist.

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hifiguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 11:48 AM
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11. Being a structural or analytic Marxist means
that one recognizes the accuracy of Marx's critique of capitalism, which is proven more accurate with every passing day. It does not necessarily mean agreeing with Marx's prescriptions which, while admirable, are unreachably utopian given human nature.

Capitalism left unregulated eventually cannibalizes everything and everyone it touches, including the very planet/environment itself in the name of profit for the few and complete exploitation of those actually producing value. Profits are appropriated to the parasitic capitalist owner class and away from the actual creators of value (workers) and the masses are ideally reduced to the level of serfs to further profit maximization. Such is the nature and essence of unregulated, or virtually unregulated, capitalism. There are few better examples of capitalist exploitation of the masses than so-called Communist China, which is no more communist in its economics than the US is.

And capitalism is a very different thing from free enterprise. The latter is a good thing, the former a very bad thing indeed. The entrepeneur has his own skin in the game, the capitalist - as defined in a Marxian sense - does not. A small business owner is engaged in free enterprise. A bankster/Fortune 200 company is engaged in capitalism. In capitalism, the risks are socialized and the profits privatized.

The Scandinavian countries' economies have heavily regulated capitalist elements, but they are actually mixed economies that promote free enterprise while controlling carefully those capitalist elements. We would do well to follow their example.
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 11:03 AM
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8. What are you talking about?
What about the socialism of northern Europe - where the standard of living makes for the 'happiest place on earth'. Having a social safety net makes life a whole lot more pleasant for everyone, enables people to take creative and entrepreneurial risks, makes for a better society.

Or are you stuck in some kind of 1950's Red Scare scenario?
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Warrior Dash Donating Member (175 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 11:27 AM
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9. A safety net is one thing...
A hammock is something else.
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 01:33 PM
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13. And who, pray tell, is lounging about in a hammock
in this fantasy of yours?

Snark aside, that's a serious question for you. Who do you think is taking advantage of 'socialism'?
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white_wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 01:50 PM
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14. Wow. This post sounds like something from Free Republic. NT
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bengalherder Donating Member (718 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 12:24 PM
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12. Do explain further.
Edited on Thu Jun-16-11 12:25 PM by bengalherder
With citations and footnotes.

Dox please. And nothing from Faux News, KTHXBAI.
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hifiguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 10:56 AM
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7. Kick to cut through all the
Weiner irrelevancies.

:kick:
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