Congratulations to the White House and the House Democratic leadership!

[kpete]

THU JUN 16, 2011 AT 09:39 AM PDT
Congratulations to the Democratic leadership!
Anthony Weiner will resign.



Bush will not be investigated for lying us into war, authorizing torture, and spying on American citizens; but Anthony Weiner will resign.

Cheney will not be investigated for lying us into war, authorizing torture, and spying on American citizens;but Anthony Weiner will resign.

Rumsfeld will not be investigated for lying us into war and authorizing torture; but Anthony Weiner will resign.

.........................

And now we can get back to what really matters, right?

the rest:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/06/16/985816/-Congratulations-to-the-Democratic-leadership!?via=siderec

[rfranklin]

1. Now that they can concentrate, everyone will have a good job!

He was just so damn distracting, that nine-inch weiner!

[iwishiwas]

160. yeah right!!

[ixion]

2. what really matters, which apparently has nothing to do with

investigating any member of BushCo for lying us into war, authorizing torture, and spying on American citizens.

[bobthedrummer]

3. K&R n/t

[closeupready]

4. Yeah. Way to go.

:woohoo: :sarcasm: :mad:

[JoePhilly]

5. I can't understand why the Obama admin and the Dem leadership

took all those pics of Weiner's JUNK and spread them across the internet.

Those BASTARDS!!!

[Ikonoklast]

10. And the very same outrage brigade members would be screaming bloody murder

for him to resign if he was a Republican.

Hypocrisy abounds.

NO, IT IS NOT *OK* IF A DEMOCRAT DOES IT.

[RBitt]

39. so Clinton gets a pass, but Anthony? NT

[Ikonoklast]

48. Not from me.

I lay the Bush disaster squarely at Bill's feet.

[tomp]

165. agreed. nt

[Tuesday Afternoon]

173. agreed.

[baldguy]

49. Just what is Weiner supposed to have done?

(Hint: having two consenting adults flirt with each other on Twitter does not rise to the level of a National Emergency.)

[sabrina 1]

63. Wrong, no one is screaming for Vitter or Craig or Ensign

or Newt or any of the Repubs caught engaging in sexual activities. What we scream about and will continue to scream about is the hypocrisy of those preaching about other people's sexual activities, doing it themselves.

In fact, I do not want them to resign, unless they broke the law. I believe the fact that they are still in Congress silences the Family Values crowd when a Dem is 'caught' doing it. Few Republicans today had anything to say about Weiner, except for the perennially stupid, unlike BEFORE they were exposed as hypocrites during the Clinton sex 'scandal'.

Now, if we could just get Democrats to adapt the same attitude, this country might move on from viewing 'sex' as a 'sin' and condemn the real bad guys in all of this, the snooping, stalking, lying, peeping toms on the far right who will not quit in their mission to destroy democrats and democracy itself for political purposes.

Leave them in Congress. Democrats are not the party who have been preaching morality to the American people so they should have had nothing to say about this other than 'it's up to his constituents. And not one Republican member of Congress could have said a word about it, due to the very fact that they did NOT call for the ousting of their own straying members.

[RoccoR5955]

157. Don't you know...

It's okay if you are a RepubliCON. ONLY Democrats have to abide by the RepubliCONs "family values." They have divine dispensation from following their declared values.

I find it rather repugnant that someone who did not profess these stupid prudish "values" is still subject to them.

[Creideiki]

163. It's not okay when a family values hypocrite does it

I don't care what normal people do.

Let's talk hypocrisy--our Nobel War Prize winning president just started us into the third indefinite war of choice.

[comtec]

185. YOU SMALL MINDED TWIT

DEMOCRATS don't parade their SUPERIOR lifestyles out in public!
WE DONT KNOW what arrangements he has with his wife

HE DIDNT ACTUALLY TOUCH ANYONE
EVERYONE INVOLVED WAS A CONSENTING ADULT



and finally



we lost a DAMNED GOOD congressman.

We lost the lone voice in the house that fought for us, that held the gop accountable on the issues. we lost the one congressman with a fucking spine.


so enjoy your high horse for nothing.


we all loose when a good man is trashed for doing something that is more common than you fucking puritans will admit to.

I have no doubt this will be flagged and removed.
but your superiority complex is disgusting, and im sick and tired of this bullshit.

I'll say what I said during clinton.... as long as he runs the country this well, I'll PERSONALLY pay for his to have a whore every night if that's what it takes!

I DON'T CARE about my politician's peccadillo's as long as they can run the fucking country well!

[Ikonoklast]

192. I won't flag it, I want everyone else to see it.

I guess you are all right with a politician that will LIE TO YOU ON CAMERA.

Fine.

Not for me, however.

It wasn't his personal life, I don't care what he does in private.

It was the fact that he lied about it.


"...lost the lone voice in the house that fought for us..." Are you serious? He went on TV and said things, the REAL work in Congress gets done without anyone much hearing or seeing it.

You prefer style over substance, I don't.

Legislation is a grind, and from what I have gleaned from reading things other congresspeople have said about Weiner, he wasn't ready to do the heavy lifting, but more than ready to take the credit.

He didn't have many friends in Congress because of that.





Oh, and all we lost was a rep that really didn't say much for ten years in Congress as a back-bencher until very recently, except to rush to the defense of the government of Israel whenever they did something that needed defending.

You cannot tell if it is a PNAC'er, Neocon, or Anthony Weiner defending Israel when they kill some more civilians; they all sounded exactly the same when defending those right-wing loons that run that country.

[Creideiki]

193. Why are you calling for Obama to resign?

Just because he lied to us on camera (over and over again) doesn't mean he should have to resign. I mean, we all knew that he was a conservative, so why should anything he actually said matter?

This is just unseemly on this website.

Calling for a Democratic President to resign. Blech.

[bigwillq]

20. ....

:thumbsup:

[BlueStater]

31. I don't give a rat's ass that he spread his "junk" across the internet.

It doesn't affect my life the least. The fact that this was such a pressing issue for our pathetic excuse of a "leadership" is telling.

[Whisp]

32. Atticus Finch, how you are missed.

kids these days! sending pictures of your scotum pole to the world is acceptable now. It's 2011 and we are way cool, ya know.

[neoralme]

43. Excellent.

[DireStrike]

51. It is acceptable.

No laws were broken, all consented, has nothing to do with legislation or his job. This is a private issue between him and his wife.

[Whisp]

I wonder if Gandhi would just pull it out and wave it around.

I'm pretty sure he didn't do that, you think he's a prude?

[BlueStater]

60. JFK and MLK both had affairs.

Not to say that Weiner is equal to them but if you want to obsess so much over a politician's cock, go over to the GOP. :eyes:

[Whisp]

69. and some here are obsessing about 'sexual freedom'

to many here that means just fucking as many people as you want, and that's okay by me as long as I don't have to watch. But that right there defines people by their sexual apparatus, as if crotches were a separate part of us and the rest of the body has been free all along but the crotch, it's kind of slow.

To me sexual freedom is about gender issues, not cock issues. or how many partners you have or how many fancy dildos you own. It is about women getting lesser pay for equal work, about women feeling safe from predators and not have to worry about being attacked because they 'were asking for it' because of what they may wear. Or how so many don't even bother reporting crimes because the justice system is not kind to women who claim rape.

That is sexual freedom to me, to be able to feel at least as safe as the male counterpart in this world. and to be paid the same for the same job.

But no, for too many it's all about fucking and nothing else.

[DireStrike]

75. I don't see anyone saying that.

Sexual liberation is about all that stuff you said. It's also about growing up and realizing that people do all sorts of things with their bits, and very little of it is anyone else's business.

[Whisp]

77. that is true. but Wiener made it everyone's business.

cant' you see the difference here?

I would be happy if I never heard of his little fetishes nor saw his dick. Pork away, Wiener.
but he was dragging a lot more into the mix besides his 'sexual freedoms' and naughty bits.

[DireStrike]

96. No, I see no difference.

Unless you're claiming that Wiener used government resources to flirt, or did it on work time, I don't see any problem. Even if he did either or both of those things, it wouldn't merit much more than a slap on the wrist and some bad publicity, and certainly not a resignation.

This would have gone away quickly if the party leadership didn't decide to come out against one of their own. All they had to do was say "It's a private matter between him and his wife. His constituents will decide if he should continue to serve them." But apparently turning on their own is one of the few things democrats can be pressured into doing. (As if they didn't know that most of the "outrage" was coming from the right.... just a convenient excuse to get rid of an inconvenient colleague.)

[Maraya1969]

107. Weiner did NOT make it everyone's business. Andrew Breitbart did.

And that one picture that caused him to immediately shut down his account was a typo. He put a @ instead of a D and that made all the difference.

[Maraya1969]

113. You mean Breitbart's dick. It was on his phone with no connection to Weiner.

[RoccoR5955]

158. To me sexual freedom is about both

the act of being sexual, AND discrimination.
Why can't it be about both?

[ProfessorPlum]

71. you don't know very much about Gandhi's sex life

powerful men like to have many pretty young women around them, as did Gandhi. Had he been able to text, there is no telling what kind of shenanigans he would have been up to.

[Whisp]

74. and neither do you

but you go right ahead and assume that Gandhi liked to fuck young girls.

[Maraya1969]

111. Are you even reading the posts? He did not say that.

"Gandhi like to fuck little girls"

That is a disgusting and despicable to write. Shame.

[mythology]

132. The poster did allude to the rumors about Gandhi

And to be fair, yes I think it's a little creepy to sleep in the same bed with a child.

Of course in general I think children are disgusting so it could just be me.

[DireStrike]

73. It's his choice to wave it around or not

In legal circumstances, of course.

I'm sure I could find all sorts of things that Gandhi never did. I guess they are all wrong?

[ooglymoogly]

80. And Jesus two, I bet he didn't either...but then none of us really knows

if either did a like thing or not. How bout God, I betcha he didn't either.

How old are you? Let me guess, 12...13...maybe 14?

[progressoid]

109. Ghandi? Hahahahaha.

He didn't pull it out and wave it around but...

Towards the end of his life, it became public knowledge that Gandhi had been sharing his bed for a number of years with young women.<90><91> He explained that he did this for bodily warmth at night and termed his actions as "nature cure". Later in his life he started experimenting with brahmacharya in order to test his self-control. His letter to Birla in April 1945 referring to 'women or girls who have been naked with me' indicates that several women were part of his experiments.<92> He wrote five editorials in Harijan discussing the practice of brahmacharya.<93>

As part of these experiments, he initially slept with his women associates in the same room but at a distance. Afterwards he started to lie in the same bed with his women disciples and later took to sleeping naked alongside them.<92> According to Gandhi active-celibacy meant perfect self-control in the presence of the opposite sex. Gandhi conducted his experiments with a number of women such as Abha, the sixteen-year-old wife of his grandnephew Kanu Gandhi.<94> Gandhi acknowledged "that this experiment is very dangerous indeed", but thought "that it was capable of yielding great results".<95> His nineteen-year-old grandniece, Manu Gandhi, too was part of his experiments. Gandhi had earlier written to her father, Jaisukhlal Gandhi, that Manu had started to share his bed so that he may "correct her sleeping posture".<95> Gandhi saw himself as a mother to these women and would refer to Abha and Manu as "my walking sticks".

Gandhi called Sarladevi, a married woman with children and a devout follower, his "spiritual wife". He later said that he had come close to having sexual relations with her.<96> He had told a correspondent in March, 1945 that "sleeping together came with my taking up of bramhacharya or even before that"; he said he had experimented with his wife "but that was not enough".<95> Gandhi felt satisfied with his experiments and wrote to Manu that "I have successfully practiced the eleven vows taken by me. This is the culmination of my striving for last thirty-six years. In this yajna I got a glimpse of the ideal truth and purity for which I have been striving".<97>

According to Gandhi's letters, some of his "experiments" included stripteases and other non-contact sexual activity. Explicit material has been found in his letters, although much of it was destroyed, with one reading "Vina's sleeping with me might be called an accident. All that can be said is that she slept close to me".<87>

Gandhi complained of experiencing "involuntary discharges" more frequently since his return to India. He believed, however, that semen held special power, saying "one who conserves his vital fluid acquires unfailing power".<87>

Gandhi had to take criticism for his experiments by many of his followers and opponents. His stenographer, R. P. Parasuram, resigned when he saw Gandhi sleeping naked with Manu.<98> Gandhi insisted that he never felt aroused while he slept beside her, or with Sushila Nayar or Abha. "I am sorry" Gandhi said to Parasuram, "you are at liberty to leave me today." Nirmal Kumar Bose, leading anthropologist and close associate of Gandhi, parted company with him in April, 1947 post Gandhi's tour of Noakhali, where some sort of altercation had taken place between Gandhi and Sushila in his bedroom at midnight that caused Gandhi to slap his forehead. Bose said, "there was no immorality on part of Gandhi. Moreover Gandhi tried to conquer the feeling of sex by consciously endeavouring to convert himself into a mother of those who were under his case, whether men or women". This maternal emphasis has also been pointed out by Dattatreya Balkrushna Kalelkar, a revolutionary turned disciple of Gandhi.

[liberation]

145. Gandhi, apparently, beat his wife at some point in his marriage.

People are flawed, deal with it. That is why moral crusades are the epitome of hypocrisy. Because people end up being held accountable to an ideal which is based on pure projection by those imposing the standard, who most of the time don't even bother to comply with it themselves.

Yes, what Weiner did was an obvious lapse of reason, and his lying afterwards did not make things any better. And he has in fact assumed the responsibility for his actions. However, the same people, who want to "look forward" when it comes to investigate actual (and orders of magnitude graver) crimes, do not have the slightest moral high ground to condemn and persecute what basically amounts to a personal issue. And that contingent of people includes the same Dem leadership who clamored for Wiener's head.


There are no winners in this debacle. It is sad to see one of the few liberals in congress display such lapse of reason, and it is even sadder to see the actual colors (even though they have been fairly displayed by now) of the Dem leadership.

[chervilant]

174. + a gazillion

Hypocrisy yields such a bitter fruit...

[frylock]

78. no, not all consented..

if you don't know that by now, then you haven't been paying attention.

[ooglymoogly]

86. And you say this without a reference or any hint of a credible source.

Aren't such (kinds of) statements called vicious "pearl clutching"gossip, dripping with venom ,when no proof is put forth. Are we to accept this on your say so, or did you get this strait from the horses ass, Breitbart or Fixed news? I think I feel a barf coming on.

[frylock]

126. would the recipient of the original pic serve as a reliable source?

Gennette Cordova said she did not even think the photo was real.

It was nearly 9 p.m. on a Friday when Ms. Cordova, who was preparing to head out for the night with a friend, logged onto Twitter and discovered that Representative Anthony D. Weiner had sent her a suggestive photo of himself in gray boxer briefs.

“It didn’t make any sense,” Ms. Cordova, a 21-year-old college student in northwestern Washington State, said in her first extensive interview since Mr. Weiner confessed in a news conference Monday to sending her the photo. “I figured it must have been a fake.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/09/nyregion/weiners-patt

[ooglymoogly]

138. What you have served up here does not bolster your argument

in any way. Says she thought the picture was a fake does not an argument make. Even though it is of little matter from a legal standpoint, did she say she did not want this attention from Wiener? what were her communications with him? It has not sounded like Wiener was trying to proposition girls who were not interested in his attention and particularly not underage women for sessions of sexting. She is admittedly 21 and over the legal age of 18, so where is the illegality here. Dicks shielded by underwear, suggestive or not, are not illegal and are all over the web and in fact on giant billboard on Calvin Klein adds all over the country and many far more explicit as long as the participants in the pictures are over the age of 18.

[frylock]

169. did she specifically ask not to be raped?

i mean really, on a fucking democratic board, you want to cover weiner's stupid ass because ms cordova never once asked that weiner not send pics of his junk. really? fucking REALLY?!!

tell you what man, gimme your email addy so i can start ending you pics. you've never once asked me not to, so i'm going to assume that it's perfectly acceptable.

[DireStrike]

98. No, I haven't been paying attention. This entire thing is a farce.

What did they allegedly not consent to? Being sent a lewd picture? Oh heavens, no.

[frylock]

127. i'm sure you have the same attitude if it was your daughter or sister or mother

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/09/nyregion/weiners-patt

[ooglymoogly]

141. Oh my god I really am barfing.

[former9thward]

181. It is not acceptable.

It shows he has poor judgment and should not be near any legislation. When you go to the floor of Congress and say you are speaking for the American people your judgment is subject to be looked at. It is not private in any respect. In his lies he attempted to frame a third party. It that still private?

[Dawgs]

93. "sending pictures of your scotum pole to the world"

Who the fuck did that? Or are you making shit to try to prove a point?

[Maraya1969]

114. Again, Andrew Brietbart sent that picture to the world. We don't know whose

it was and if was from Weiner it was intended for one willing adult participant.

Personally I still think it is Breitbart's penis. That picture does not look like all the rest of the pictures which are titillating but not outwardly pornographic.

[sabrina 1]

139. Atticus Finch would have defended Weiner from

this sexual witch hunt. If you think otherwise, I think you missed the point of that book. Weiner did nothing wrong. Atticus Finch defended someone who also did nothing wrong, but like Weiner, was hunted down by a rabid mob anyhow. No need to find out what he might have done, he was the wrong 'kind of person' for the mob.

Weiner is a Liberal who dared to go after Corporate America's man on the Supremed Court. For that he had to go.

[ccinamon]

58. +1000 : the fact this was such a PRESSING issue

for our pathetic excuse of a "leadership" is telling.


Borrowing and reposting on the gazillion of Weiner posts on Facebook!!

[newspeak]

122. that's right, his sexting doesn't affect our lives but

his being ousted affects our lives as one less voice will be heard to actually represent the plebes.

And people say "but, he lied." So fekkin what. He lied on TV, he was not sworn under oath to tell the truth (like some others), or lied about something that harmed the american people and the economy, like the Iraq debacle.

What he did was stupid, but do I want to see a voice for the people silenced (since we have so few of them in Congress)? I am no pearl clutcher, I come down hard on those politicians who get in office on the "purity" test and get caught-it's their hypocrisy. Again, I'm not fainting over what Weiner did and I am sad to see another voice for the people silenced.

[JoePhilly]

162. It was also a "pressing issue" on DU.

And on TV.

Weiner knew what he was doing was politically dangerous. The easy way for him to avoid all of this was to not send photos of himself, in various stages of undress, to people he had never met.

And I should mention that if HE thought it was ok to do so, he wouldn't have felt the need to lie when the pics started to come out. In fact, he'd have expected them to come out at some point. After all, he was sending the pics to people he did not know, did he think they would not show them to other people?

As for being forced out ... that's silly. What would they do, take away his hall pass?

For all you and I know, his wife said, "you need to resign".

Personally, I did not want him to resign. I think the entire episode has been ridiculous.

And just as ridiculous as any other part ... would be the blaming of the Obama administration and the Dem leadership for the consequences of Weiner's foolish actions.

Weiner created the situation. No one else.

[BlueStater]

171. Oh, I'm blaming the leadership all right.

There is something extremely fucked up about a country where a politician has to resign for lying about putting photos of his pecker on the internet but someone who lies about a war that has caused the deaths of thousands can keep his job. I'm fighting a losing battle for sanity but I don't care. Someone has to take a stand against this disgusting nonsense.

[Maraya1969]

104. You people are just as guilty. All of you pompous assed Democrats throwing

him under the buss just encouraged the MSM AND the Democratic leadership.

Are you happy? You must not be in his district. Cause Fuck them right?

[JoePhilly]

161. Weiner created the situation. Not Obama, not Pelosi.

Not the Dem leadership.

If you were to read my posts on this since it started, my view is that the left lied when it claimed that the private sex lives of public officials was none of our business. Clearly, it is. It would not have been an endless DU discussion topic if it didn't matter.

The easiest way to avoid all of this would have been for Weiner to not send photos of himself to people he'd never met. It was dumb.

Personally, I did not want him to resign (see how pompous I am).

He created this situation. And for all you or I know, his wife pressured him to resign.

Regardless, blaming the Obama administration or Dem leadership is ridiculous.

[rhett o rick]

179. Bet you understand well why they threw him under the bus. Because the big bad Republicans

would give them a wedge if they didnt. Weiner has balls and that's why he is out.

[bobthedrummer]

6. Know Your DLC: Current DLC Leadership Team and other Democratic Leadership Council links

(started 4-5-08)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5396391

To some people leadership=fuhrerprinzip.

[NorthCarolina]

26. I believe they ditched the "DLC" moniker in favor of "New Dem". nt

[liberation]

146. I prefer "Old Republican" myself

it rolls off the tongue easier, and it is more factually correct.

[kenfrequed]

Well...

The dlc dems and the blue dogs wanted another seat after having lost so many of them, and if they could take advantage of breitbarts bullshit to push out a progressive and get Kaine to dump a ton of resources on a friggin conservadem, then why not.

[kenfrequed]

150. Well...

The dlc dems and the blue dogs wanted another seat after having lost so many of them, and if they could take advantage of breitbarts bullshit to push out a progressive and get Kaine to dump a ton of resources on a friggin conservadem, then why not.

[girl gone mad]

7. This country is sick..

maybe beyond redemption.

[slay]

9. +1

yep.. :(

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[Dept of Beer]

16. As long as there are enough distractions from the truth

then the people will not ask the questions that need to be asked.

Incidentally while I was writing this I was called by Organize for America looking for my continued support. After 10 minutes of a nice back and forth conversation I left my caller with a few suggestions that many Democrats keep on asking of their leadership, but apparently fall on deaf ears.

[Harmony Blue]

17. Sad truth

but I reserve the right to be optimistic! o.O

[krabigirl]

22. Yes it is. A dying empire.

[Enthusiast]

35. Actually the wealthy, the irresponsible corporations,

the military industrial complex and their political minions are doing better than ever. 'Their' empire is in no danger.

[Raine]

40. True, sadly so. nt

[Bluebear]

194. :(

So sad.

[slay]

8. Priorities

Dems don't have them. and the ones they do have align with the rich and powerful. i'm sick of it. sick. of. it.

[SecularMotion]

11. And Republican congress members will continue to tell lies in Congress

while Anthony Weiner resigns over lies about his personal life.

[Kermitt Gribble]

61. Perfectly stated! n/t

[bobthedrummer]

12. Inconvenient truths about the New Democrats, the Third Way, Democratic Leadership Council, etc

(started 3-7-08, still true and politically relevant)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2973191

[gratuitous]

13. I hope nothing else happens to distract them

Like, say, a light bulb suddenly coming on or a breeze precipitously stirring the grass. Uh oh, looks like the sun is about to come out from behind a cloud! This will stop them in their tracks for DAYS.

[Edweird]

14. DLC=GOP

[myrna minx]

18. You can almost hear the champagne corks popping.

:-(

[TheKentuckian]

19. Yay! Now that we are past this distraction, I'm sure our "leaders" will be able to

focus on the nation again. You know like they were before this crap surfaced and they were sitting around with their thumbs up their asses and trying to figure out how to appease TeaPubliKlans and enrich their sponsors.

[RelativelyJones]

21. This constant criticism of Pelosi is bullshit

Weiner was given every chance to be a front man, and then he fucked up big time. He displayed astonishingly poor judgement, almost like he was begging to get publicly humiliated, and then lied about it. He's got not nobody to blame but himself. Its not Pelosi's fault he made a jackass of himself. She's the only decent strategic thinker we have got.

[xphile]

24. The criticism of Pelosi is spot on. "Impeachment is off the table"

Dick pics, you must resign.

She is in NO position to be requesting Weiner's resignation considering her complicity in allowing Bush and co. to get off, no pun intended, scott free.

[jeff47]

28. No, she's a pretty lousy strategic thinker

"Impeachment is off the table" = "Republicans, you can do whatever you'd like, 'cause we're not going to investigate anything. We're not even going to pretend that there are consequences for breaking the law. Sure, it would mean breaking your party for a decade or so. But it would just be so uncivil!"

While it's not Pelosi's fault he made a jackass of himself, she didn't have to call for his resignation immediately. She did not have to fan the media firestorm. But she and the rest of the leadership did by talking about it constantly.

[mazzarro]

95. Thank You - my friend.

I could hardly hold back the mouthful of ice-tea when I read the assertion that "Pelosi is the only decent strategic thinker the Democrats have". Well no wonder the dems keep ceding grounds every day on all sorts of things - since all the other strategic thinkers they have are lesser off than Pelosi.

[liberation]

149. No kidding, she sold out Wiener.

And she did not even get to put forth her talking points regarding jobs during her presser. The media just muted her.

That is really pathetic.


Some people keep insisting some of these Dems are chess grandmasters while they keep making excuses as to why they are moving circular pieces diagonally, seems sheer cognitive dissonance it is involved in the process.

[fascisthunter]

29. tough shit

she's a fraud who gave a pass to serious criminal activity so spare us.

[savannah43]

56. To spare us. Could be, or it could be

to prevent too much truth from coming out.

[Enthusiast]

37. Wrong.....nt

[neoralme]

46. She is the worst SOTH in history. She had the opportunity to

take Bush and Cheney out, but took it off the table. I can't stand this woman. She is 45 per cent of reason for the 2nd worst turnover in History of the House.

[rpannier]

68. Worse than Delay or Hastert?

I disagree

[neoralme]

81. I meant Democrats. My bad.

[liberation]

148. Don't forget Gingrich!

But then there is the issue of enablement and complicity. If we consider those to be akin to an active role, well... Pelosi did enable part of the Bush's presidency, which committed far graver crimes than Gingrich was able to get away with. So it is a tough call...

[kenfrequed]

167. Well I half disagree

The house actually did put forth a few decent bills 2008-2010 that were killed in committee in the senate by Evan Bayh's blue dog senate caucus. Evan Byh is who I truly blame for costing us the house by depriving democrats of anything democratic to run on and by providing cover for the Republicans at a time that should have been the start of a generational domination of congress by Democrats.

He stopped the progressive change we were all hoping for and cut President Obama's feet out from under him by forming his subcaucus a month before he took the oat of office.

[kenfrequed]

168. But yes

Taking impeachment off the table and acting meek and mild towards our enemies makes me angry with Pelosi.

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[Dappleganger]

176. No, she earned it.

We have every right to criticize those who are supposed to represent us.

[chervilant]

177. Wow...

The very INSTANT that Pelosi said "Impeachment is off the table," she lost my respect. That she would work so hard to compel Weiner to resign over this tempest in a teacup is just icing on that cake.

[mod mom]

23. just one one reason why I will only work to elect progressives.

[Maineman]

187. Yes. Me too.

[xphile]

25. Thank you House Democratic Leadership and to the White House

for nothing.

[Uncle Joe]

27. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, kpete.

[DireStrike]

30. HAHAHAHA get back to what really matters

They'll be analyzing this resignation speech for WEEKS. I thought the heckler was a nice touch.

And then, after that, we can talk about Boehner's cheating.

OH WAIT NOBODY GIVES A FUCK BECAUSE HE DOESN'T CHALLENGE THE POWERS THAT BE.


This country is fucked.

[lordsummerisle]

103. What he said ^ n/t

[Ninten12]

33. Come Back Anthony!!

Please come back. Take a break, chill out and get back into the game. Your constituents forgave you. This is a damn shame. The kkkorporate media did not say a damn thing about the real issues and the er, "leadership" of the Democratic Party!

Norman Goldman is finally talking about it and he is NAILING it!

[AmericaIsGreat]

34. Fucking bullshit

The now have even fewer true, liberal progressives in Congress.

[savannah43]

44. Yup. Thanks Nancy & Debbie!

Good job revealing your true intentions--you closeted GOP hacks.
Rep. Weiner, Anthony, Tony-- PLEASE don't leave us. Perhaps you can get a show on Current TV. Take Spitzer with you. Rescue him from the mediocrity and censorship of CNN. He's wasted there.

[HubertHeaver]

36. They saved the world from the Wild Weiner!

Now follow-up with investigating Clarence Thomas and his tax-fraud problems. You know, real crimes.

[NewJeffCT]

38. Isn't what Vitter did far worse than Weiner?

Weiner displayed bad judgment, but Vitter going to a prostitute is illegal the last I checked. But, when he came back to the Senate, the Republics there gave him a standing ovation.

[Critters2]

45. IOKIYAR nt

[NewJeffCT]

53. Not to mention other Republicans that had affairs

John Boehner, Nikki Haley, etc. None of them have resigned in shame.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

41. Yep. Now they can get back to funding their wars, bailing out the fatcats, and fundraising.

[Scottybeamer70]

42. and I wonder just who is the next target

because you know it is coming soon. They simply cannot allow the public to know what a mess this country is in right now.
They know a sex scandal will cover just about any lie they tell to the public. Greece, anyone?

[baldguy]

47. Weiner's resignation is proof that America is run by morons.

Gladys Kravitz has taken over the American psyche. A 10-yr-old Gladys Kravitz.

There have been indications of this sickening purulent juvenile impulses - George W Bush, Sarah Palin, the popularity of reality TV - but having Weiner be forced to resign over literally nothing is beyond unreasonable.

The issues that really matter - that directly effect the lives & welfare of hundreds of millions of Americans & billions people around the world, THE VERY THINGS THAT WEINER SPENT HIS ENTIRE CAREER TRYING TO FIX - will never be addressed. Because someone, somewhere is having harmless fantasies about fucking someone the 10 yr old Gladys Kravitzes don't think he should be allowed to fantasize about. Because someone somewhere might be thinking of having fun, and the 10 yr old Gladys Kravitzes HATE fun.

[KansDem]

50. K&R

This thread needs to be kept visible for awhile...

[ProgressIn2008]

52. Meh, why would anyone imagine that Obama or House Dems care about torture, spying, and war?

What on earth would suggest that they give a shit, anyway? Our masters only care about theater while they drive us further into serfdom. So it goes. Another day, another dollar.

[EV_Ares]

54. Best comment & photo showing the dems for what they are of the day.

Rec.

[savannah43]

59. This smells like Rove. They did the same thing to

Scott Ritter about his statements regarding the lack of weapons of mass destruction. Breitbart is apparently one of Rove's current operators/minions. You know, like one of Satan's minions. Karma? Are you nearby? What are you waiting for?

[pam4water]

55. K&R

[WillyT]

57. HUGE K & R !!!

:applause::applause::applause:

:kick:

[me b zola]

62. K&R

[badtoworse]

64. Get over yourself. Weiner was an idiot for doing what he did.

He was also an embarrassment to his constituents and to the Democratic Party. Expecting fellow Democrats to defend him was unfair and unreasonable. This was all HIS fault and he had to go.

I hope he puts his life back together and that his marriage survives, but as a congressman, it was over, at least for now.

[baldguy]

72. If everyone who had a moment of idiocy in their life was forced to resign or was fired

There would be nobody left to do anything.

[badtoworse]

85. That's true, but so what?

[baldguy]

87. So Weiner was hounded from office because of a moment of idiocy.

And Republicans are cheering.

[badtoworse]

88. It happens in politics and he should have anticipated that if he got caught

Politics is a rough game; it always has been.

[baldguy]

97. "Caught"? Caught doing what?

Oh, right. He was caught red-handed FLIRTING!

And who was he caught by? A conspiracy of RW operatives who combed through every post, every tweet & every statement he's made in every venue over the last 5+ yrs. Now Weiner is gone THEY'VE WON and now they'll be free to target SOME OTHER DEMOCRAT!

You and the spineless Democrats in Congress have set the standard: Democratic politicians must always behave in a pure & perfect manner (in the eyes of the most prudish among us) from puberty onwards without committing any sin whatsoever, at any level, at any time in their life - no matter how minor & inconsequential. Otherwise their entire public career is forfeit. Van Jones, Sherry Sherrod - and now Anthony Weiner - are all VICTIMS of this piss-poor defeatist attitude

It's a standard that no human being can hope to live up to, and we'll lose too many excellent public servants LIKE ANTHONY WEINER. I hope you're happy.

[badtoworse]

105. There is no point debating the facts of what he did.

By whatever means, it did come to light and he fessed up after lying about it for a few days. I'm not happy about this matter and I hope he puts his life back together.

There are lots of things I'm willing to defend and fight for, but tweeting pictures of your junk isn't on the list. I actually expect my congressman to have enough self-respect. class and intelligence not to do things like that. You won't find pictures of my junk on the net or anywhere else. I do have a confession though: When I was about 16, I did plop my bare ass on a Xerox machine and made copies. I gueass I'm a hypocrite now, but at the time, my friends thought it was a scream.

[baldguy]

110. Weiner wasn't attacked because of his self-portraits.

Like Clinton, the sole reason he was targeted & attacked was because he was a Democrat.

[badtoworse]

115. ...and if the attacks had no basis in fact, he would still be in office

Whether you like it or not, Weiner gave his political opponents the means to render him politically powerless. ANY politician that takes risks like he did is either very stupid or very naive.

[baldguy]

124. Weiner did nothing illegal, immoral or unusual. Just mildly stupid.

The cowardly Democratic leadership again caving to phony (and it is phony) Republican outrage is what did him in.

[badtoworse]

154. There some political issues the leadership just doesn't want to touch

I suspect that Weiner's schwantz is on the list. I don't think they cared about phony Republican outrage, but public ridicule is a different matter. This issue wasn't going away anytime soon and they didn't want to be dealing with Weiner jokes a year from now.

[AlbertCat]

82. Weiner was an idiot for doing what he did.

Yes! How stupid of him to have a sex life!

:eyes:

[badtoworse]

84. You're right. Everyone gets off by tweeting their junk

I must be the weird one.

[baldguy]

99. I'm guessing you've never been on Twitter.

[badtoworse]

101. You'd be right about that. Is this sort of thing common on Twitter?

I am into Facebook. How is Twitter different?

[PeaceNikki]

117. No. It's not.

[eilen]

155. What he did was embarrassing

But as a Congressman, he was no embarrassment. What the Democrats in leadership were supposed to do is defend his right to keep his seat while reprimanding him for his behavior. He did not have to go. He engaged in a number of online dalliances which I am sure were sent privately and were consentual as the women involved continued their "dialogue." He took some pictures of himself. BFD. Maybe he was lonely.

[fascisthunter]

166. get over yourself

[Dappleganger]

178. Get off your high horse.

[ProSense]

65. Constituents Respond To Weiner Resignation

Constituents Respond To Weiner Resignation

[bluestate10]

66. Get a good night's sleep, you're feel better in the morning. nt

[Harriety]

67. Yup! This solves everything! Horray! Oh happy day! Chamagne toast to you all!

[SusanaMontana41]

70. Perfect, kpete, as usual. K&R! n/t

[Dragonfli]

76. For some reason they always do what Breitbart wants, I don't know why, perhaps he is an ally

[Bluesbreaker]

79. But David Vitter will be investigated!

Oh, wait . . . no he won't.

[madrchsod]

83. i guess they better find someone who is 99.44/100% pure they float

[Name removed]

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[Fool Count]

90. If they only fought so cohesively and single-mindedly

as they did for Weiner's resignation for something that really mattered to their constituents and the country. Well, one can dream.

[ooglymoogly]

91. Victory!!! shouts the DLC....now we can lie, cheat and steal in peace; just like the pugs.

Anthony just was not rich enough to be in congress, Not quality good ol' boy enough to be in congress.

Lies and thievery need cover not exposure!!!!

Just ask the secretive bluedog 0. admin. and the bluedog DLC.

I think the third way has just touched the third rail one too many times in this cheap shot, over reach.

Now it is clear why the DLC is hastily re-branding itself. Too many folks are on to them.

[Plucketeer]

92. OK! Let's CELEBRATE!!!!

JOBS FOR EVERYBODY! JOBS FOR EVERYBODY! JOBS FOR EVERYBODY! It's a JOB-A-PALOOZA!

"What's that mister? You need a job? Wha sure, why here's a job right here! What's that? You wanted a good-PAYING job? Of course! Hey we're Republicans - that's Reepublee-CANS - get it? Here, gimmee that shitty job and take this great-payin', benefit-drippin' position right here! Hey - WE'RE here to put you back to work. That's why we are going after abortions and slashing education and making EVERY state one that you have the right to work in! Subsidies for oil and farm operations. Hey - how you gonna drive to that great new job or have lunch once you're there if not for those struggling operations?? SEE? We're thinkin' 'bout ya!"

[Ikonoklast]

94. ...and Nancy Pelosi goes under the bus once again.

Leeme see here, Weiner effs up, but Pelosi gets the blame?

Roger that.

[BlueStater]

118. Nancy let Bush get away with war crimes and torture.

But she doesn't hestitate for a second to go after a member of her own party who made a mistake in his personal life.

Her priorities are completly fucked up so, yes, she's getting some well-deserved heat.

[LynnTTT]

100. Dems cave again

Again and again, the Dems don't listen to their own supporters and simply cave.
I was listening to Weiner on June 6th at his first press conference and started screaming at the TV as soon as he said he would take questions. Just because someone sticks a camera in your face and starts asking question doesn't mean you are required to stand there and take it.

And when will Dems stand up and support their own people? Come November, many Dems will simply stay home, like they did in Nov. 2010.

[LynnTTT]

102. What Pelosi should have said last week;;

We are very sorry that Rep.Weiner has indulged in this clearly unprofessional behavior. However, this is a private matter, in no way illegal and is really between him and his family. Polls show that his constituents, while disappointed, do continue to support him and his unwavering fight for them in the House of Representatives. If his constituents decide between now and the next election that he is not performing his job, they can elect someone else. That is all that any of us will have to say on this issue.

And then shut up

[felix_numinous]

106. K&R

[lordsummerisle]

108. K&R

Thanks kpete!

[TxVietVet]

112. Pelosi f*cks up again.

Why don't they just change their party name to "conservanazi lite party"?

It gets more and more sickening as it goes on. I'm tired of these f*cking Democratic "leaders". We are becoming a big joke to the world. They look out after republiklan interests before they look out for the good of the nation or the citizens/taxpayers.

[Bluebear]

147. +

[SadPanda]

116. Disagree.... if this was a Republican we'd be calling for his resignation

We can't have it both ways.

[wisteria]

120. Our leadership would look the other way. n/t

[SadPanda]

123. Really? Our leadership wouldn't use that as election ammunition?

Kind of doubt that. Bottom line is Weiner's weiner was going to provide an endless stream of political fodder for the Republicans. He should have known better.

[Bluebear]

144. No.

[deutsey]

156. The only thing "our leadership" has in its arsenal is a white flag n/t

[uncle ray]

142. only if the republican were a hypocrite.

nobody is asking for it both ways.

[wisteria]

119. Our leadership is so full of it. n/t

[scheming daemons]

121. Why don't you post more hard evidence of how Wiener was set up and his account hacked?

:eyes:

[Hissyspit]

125. Doesn't really have anything to do with the point of the Daily Kos diary.

[glinda]

128. No laws broken and they allowed him to be heckled. Shameful.

[Harmony Blue]

190. It truly is a commentary

on our society, and how the rest of the world looks at us.

[Poll_Blind]

129. K&R!

PB

[girl_interrupted]

130. Leave it to the Dems to kick a guy when he's down

Gutless wonders that they are.

[man4allcats]

131. I sometimes think that Democrats are not donkeys;

they are jackasses.

[QC]

140. I think some sort of invertebrate would make an excellent new mascot.

Can you think of a good one? Perhaps some kind of jellyfish would do the job.

[madmax]

133. Props for the pukes

They to to the mat for theirs. We eat our own and throw the carcas to the wolves.

I'm sick over this.


Hope most of the pundits are right, 80% of the public believes that he'll be back and back stronger.

I sincerely hope so. Best of Luck, Anthony.

[wundermaus]

134. Send in the Clowns...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGekq3Jt5Go

...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0a2QGDFHTv0

[dotymed]

135. Total Bullshit !

Anthony tell them (really) to Bite Me.

Don't let these corporate whores chase you off.

[amborin]

136. K&R x 1000

[hay rick]

137. K&R

[thelordofhell]

143. And Clarence Thomas stays on the Supreme Court

And does not recuse himself from any ruling

[Botany]

152. The White House and the Democratic Leadership ....

.... did not do anything to Mr. Weiner that he did not cause himself to happen.

Anthony Weiner had to resign because of his own personal conduct and that had nothing to
do with the awful acts of Cheney, bush, and Rummy.

[divvy]

153. No Shit ..... K&R

[sellitman]

159. He brought this upon himself

The cover up was worse than the crime.

When will they learn?

[SidDithers]

164. pffffftttt...nt

Sid

[woo me with science]

170. K&R nt

[polichick]

172. Yeah, it doesn't matter that the DOJ is targeting whistle blowers, as long as Anthony resigns...

We might as well call this period the Bush-Obama Era.

[truebrit71]

175. I wish I could recommend your post a million times...

...Thank dog we have rid ourselves of the REAL problem..

[totodeinhere]

180. The problem is that a lot of people including some Democrats do not care about

the list of crimes committed by Bush and the gang that you mentioned. But they do care about Weiner. I know it doesn't make much sense but it's true. We have our priorities so out of whack.

[blackspade]

182. The Democratic leadership is pathetic.

[and-justice-for-all]

183. I do not give a shit who he showed his junk to...

at least no one has died from Weiner's little lie.

[valerief]

184. Mustn't have too many progressives trying to help American people!

That would hurt Goldman Sachs.

[paparush]

186. Clearly, progressives and liberals have no place in American govt.

They are given no quarter.

[midnight]

188. K&R

[mlevans]

189. Pardon me, I do not usually resort to profanity but

this situation is fucking pathetic.

[jeremyfive]

191. Good Point

The Democratic leadership has become impossibly weak. They don't take a stand on anything.