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deminks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 06:18 PM
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Juan Cole: 'They have brought great shame upon the traditions of the White House'
http://www.juancole.com/

Eminent National Security correspondent at the New York Times James Risen has been told by a retired former official of the Central Intelligence Agency that the Bush White House repeatedly asked the CIA to spy on me with a view to discovering “damaging” information with which to discredit my reputation. Glenn Carle says he was called into the office of his superior, David Low, in 2005 and was asked of me, “ ‘What do you think we might know about him, or could find out that could discredit him?’ ”

Low actually wrote up a brief attempt in this direction and submitted it to the White House but Carle says he intercepted it. Carle later discovered that yet another young analyst had been tasked with looking into me.

It seems to me clear that the Bush White House was upset by my blogging of the Iraq War, in which I was using Arabic and other primary sources, and which contradicted the propaganda efforts of the administration attempting to make the enterprise look like a wild shining success.

Carle’s revelations come as a visceral shock. You had thought that with all the shennanigans of the CIA against anti-Vietnam war protesters and then Nixon’s use of the agency against critics like Daniel Ellsberg, that the Company and successive White Houses would have learned that the agency had no business spying on American citizens.

(end snip)

Let's see, what do I remember about using government agencies against political enemies...

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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 06:23 PM
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1. Oh, you're so preoccupied with lookin' backwards to the past
We're all about lookin' forward to the future! Hope! Change! On to Chicago!
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Wind Dancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 06:27 PM
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2. K & R! n/t
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 06:28 PM
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3. The CIA LIVES to Spy!
and if they can't find Osama binLaden, what better alternative than to find someone who writes about happenings in the Arab world and spy on him and discredit him so he runs away...and therefore could conceivably lead to Osama?

Bullies don't learn by failure. They learn by forcible stoppage.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 06:32 PM
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4. Aye, and here's the rub:
Because Obama doesn't even bother to investigate, much less indict and prosecute, makes him an accessory after the fact.
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slay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 07:02 PM
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5. Yep
and i don't think i can vote for that. It was one thing to vote for Obama based on his words and promises as candidate - it's a whole other thing to validate his actions by voting to re-elect him in 2012. I wish we had a better option. He will likely win - but also likely without my vote.
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 07:05 PM
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6. +1
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tomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 08:51 AM
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12. agreed. nt
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 07:12 PM
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17. -1
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 07:07 PM
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7. HUGE K & R !!!
:kick:
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 07:11 PM
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8. Wow --Unbelievable
Juan Cole is so fairminded. We're not talking Ted Rall here.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 07:16 PM
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9. Juan's lucky all they tried to do was destroy his reputation.
Remember all John Kokal and Gus Weis tried to do was tell the truth about Iraq having no WMDs.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 07:21 PM
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10. I read this earlier
It's outrageous that Juan Cole should be targeted by the friggin' government.

His stuff is SOLID. He knows how to speak Farsi and Arabic and knows how to interpret what's happening in Iran and the Middle East, without some news agency's spin.

But then again, I guess that's what makes him so dangerous.
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carolinayellowdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 08:38 AM
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11. They bring shame on themselves but honor to Juan Cole
He has long been a hero of mine for a variety of reasons.
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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 09:14 AM
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13. Frank Church is spinning in his grave
If he were alive now and trying to create the Church Committee, he would be howled out of the room by the media and "leaders" of the Left and Right.

http://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/history/minute/Church_Committee_Created.htm
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 10:02 AM
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14. Good point. Those who wish to wage war rarely were ever in one.
Church was the greatest Senator Idaho ever had.
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 06:15 PM
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15. K & R
:thumbsup:
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 07:08 PM
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16. spitzer is interviewing Carle as I type this
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deminks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 07:18 PM
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18. Thanks, I missed it. If there is a repeat, I will try to catch it.
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