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Fri Jun-24-11 10:53 PM
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Andrew Cuomo will (probably) be the only candidate 4 president in 2016 that has lead on gay marriage |
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Andrew Cuomo is very ambitious and is very likely to run for president in 2016. He will most likely be the only candidate to have successfully lead the way on marriage equality. That should earn him a well deserved loyal following on its own. As we have seen from Obama, leading the way on gay marriage is not very common.
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Fri Jun-24-11 10:54 PM
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1. He would be way up on my list |
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but I would have killed to vote for his father.
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Fri Jun-24-11 10:57 PM
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5. I think many of us would have. |
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Edited on Fri Jun-24-11 10:58 PM by Renew Deal
:) I've always shied away from Cuomo in elections. I never trusted that he really was more than just a name. I've been pleasantly surprised.
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Fri Jun-24-11 10:55 PM
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2. Senator Kirsten Gillibrand. nt |
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Fri Jun-24-11 10:55 PM
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3. He most certainly will be a leading candidate. |
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And HE knows it! I wish it was his father, but I'll settle for him!
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Fri Jun-24-11 10:55 PM
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4. Deval Patrick thinks not |
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Deval fought the legislature on repeal.
And Deval's not into union busting, I understand Cuomo is.
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Fri Jun-24-11 10:58 PM
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7. Is Deval as ambitious as Cuomo? |
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Fri Jun-24-11 11:00 PM
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Fri Jun-24-11 11:01 PM
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I'll defer to my more northerly neighbors on that one.
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Fri Jun-24-11 10:59 PM
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8. I really like what I've seen of Deval Patrick. |
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Fri Jun-24-11 11:00 PM
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Gay marriage was the only thing that I can recall him taking a tough stand on.
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Fri Jun-24-11 11:08 PM
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16. Of course, they always present themselves in the best light |
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when they're on TV. I think I saw him on Bill Maher or something.
I think in 2016 we'll need someone radically progressive to try to swing the country back toward the center. What's going on these days is just pathetic.
ed. Although congratulations to New York for the historic vote tonight. That kind of rocked.
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Fri Jun-24-11 10:57 PM
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6. how about Dennis Kucinich ? |
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Fri Jun-24-11 11:00 PM
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9. What has he accomplished? |
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He'll also be 69 in 2016. Not very likely to run.
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Sat Jun-25-11 01:58 AM
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20. A SERIOUS liberal candidate |
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When was the last time any Congressman was a Presidential nominee? Beyond just statistics, and practical matters of networking and finances, Kucinich- despite being right a lot of the time- is about as uncharismatic as they come. And you might be tempted to say that charisma shouldn't count for as much as it does, but it's directly related to the powers a candidate has to inspire people.
Not to mention that Kucinich ran in the last two Presidential elections, and didn't move the debate to the left as far as I remember.
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Fri Jun-24-11 11:01 PM
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13. I appreciate his leadership in this area and despise his complicity with corporate and anti-worker |
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forces in others.
This doesn't unscrew the pooch for me at all. I'd never trust the man with the broad prosperity of the nation or to reverse the corporate capture of our government.
The power brokers don't give a shit about marriage equity, it has been used to flog along regressive voters and now the wind is leaving their sails so the issue won't drive the politics they care about which are all money funnels.
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Fri Jun-24-11 11:05 PM
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14. Watch for Maryland Gov Martin O'Malley too |
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He pledged to sign MD's gay marriage bill before it died in the House. You can be sure he'll bring it back in 2012. I would bet that Maryland is one of the next states to legalize it. We already came very close to getting it in April.
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Fri Jun-24-11 11:06 PM
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15. Martin O'Malley pledged to sign, but played very little part in advancing the bill. |
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Maybe that will change next year.
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Fri Jun-24-11 11:10 PM
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17. I really hope he doesn't |
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Being right about gay marriage doesn't make up for the plethora of other issues he is wrong about. If he ran, he would be the DLC's dream candidate.
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Fri Jun-24-11 11:27 PM
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Sat Jun-25-11 01:51 AM
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19. NY is a liberal state. |
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Thats why you can do it there and not have to worry about it hurting your reelection chances.
Obama has to worry abotu being reelected though by winning states like Pennsylvania and Ohio, etc... Thats why he cant be for gay marriage. It woudl probably kill his chances of being reelected. I think he's specifically worried abotu enthusiasm in the black community.
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Sat Jun-25-11 02:27 AM
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21. 'Thats why he cant be for gay marriage.' - So you're saying basically he can't lead on an issue. |
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And you really think the 'black community' wouldn't vote for him based on this?
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Sat Jun-25-11 03:17 AM
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22. Andrew Cuomo has a race problem |
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And so did his father. Not sure what it is, but apparently, black people and Cuomo's don't get along very well. I'm not in NY, so I don't know the back story, but it's not a love story. I do remember Andrew saying Obama can't "shuck and jive" around an issue during his primary contest against Hillary. I was offended and I know black people were pretty angry.
I'm sure he got the lion's share of the black vote in the governor's race in NY, but running for president is a whole other beast and all that stuff will come to light.
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