First article linking Giffords shooting to Palin's 'target map' and gun sights

[Liberal_in_LA]

Miss Giffords had been named as a political campaign target for conservatives in November’s elections by former Alaska governor Sarah Palin for her strong support for the health reforms of President Barack Obama.

Mrs Palin had published a “target map” on her website using images of gun sights to identify 20 House Democrats, including Miss Giffords, for backing the new health care law.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/us-politics/8248267/American-congresswoman-Gabrielle-Giffords-shot-in-head.html

[eleny]

1. Thank you, Telegraph, for telling it like it is

This ought to put an end to any public career Palin is working towards.

[Liberal_in_LA]

7. Bloggers publicizing the screen shot of the Palin bullseye

http://www.talksy.com/83221/the-palin-website-with-a-bullseye-over-gabrielle-gifford-s-district-is-down-now

[Silver Gaia]

27. Just FYI... McAfee gave me a red warning on this link...

It mentioned potential security risks, and said to use the site with extreme caution. Just reporting what I saw... FWIW.

[robinlynne]

15. in a sane world....

[calimary]

47. Well, one can hope. Although I doubt some of the people on her side are either reachable

or redeemable by now.

[Enthusiast]

52. Reachable or redeemable?

No way. They have been so indoctrinated that they will feel the shootings were entirely justified. I mean after all the victim voted for Obama care. :eyes:

[uppityperson]

2. k&r

[deminks]

3. I sometimes read the 'foreign' press first.

Thank you. Sarah's target campaign is also going viral on Twitter.

[Bozita]

4. The MSM will NEVER be able to find that graphic.

[Qutzupalotl]

8. Here's one copy I found after a search:

On edit: I saved a copy, but it looks like the blogosphere is lighting up with it. A disaster for her and her stupid faux-folksy bullshit, not to mention a tragedy for the families involved. Fuck Sarah Palin!

[Liberal_in_LA]

9. it's gone viral around the web. she can't hide from what she's done

[calimary]

46. Good. She MUST NOT be able to hide or avoid or try to weasel-word it away.

It needs to stick to her like spilled BP oil.

[fasttense]

22. Sarah Palin is complicit in the Congresswoman's shooting.

She should be held accountable.

[nadinbrzezinski]

25. Thanks hope you don't mind I saved it too

[earth mom]

18. WTF? It's ALL over DU!!! Everyone is saving it! nt

[imax2268]

20. I saved it...

going to send it everywhere...!

[Liberal_in_LA]

23. good

[bobthedrummer]

5. K&R-there are no coincidences, no lone nut did this n/t

[htuttle]

6. From the article:

"It is believed to be the first time that a woman politician has been the object of an assassination attempt in America, a country where elected leaders have often been the subject of attacks."

[EC]

10. Of course

the UK..

[Pisces]

11. In order to get real news about our own country we have to read international sites?? crazy.

[Bozita]

21. We're #1 We're #1! We're #1! ... USA USA USA!

Not so much with the MSM.

[progressoid]

31. I've been doing that for years now.

Crazy and sad.

[molly77]

33. Probably a similar situation in Germany in 1933.

Can't fix the problem until it is named. Fascism. It is also the reason the republicans have been in power since 2000.We are not a free country when there is no freedom of the press, no privacy, fixed elections, illegal wars without citizen's approval or consent, a justice system that lets the rich and republicans get away with murder and the poor sentenced for years for nothing. Then they get to work for a dollar a day .Then you get groped if you want to travel by air. Arrested if you don't allow the groping. Why do we hate to use the correct word for the problem? Fear?

[RoccoR5955]

37. Noam Chomsky has said, on several occasions that these times are similar to Germany in '33

And, though he was here, in the US, he observed them.
He has stated, time and again, that we are on the same path, today, that Germany was in in 1933.

[JDPriestly]

40. I have been saying for a long time on DU that we are in a period

very similar to the time that lead to Hitler's ascension to power in Germany. This assassination and attempted assassination -- this act of terror -- brings us much, much closer.

Obama must treat this as a serious terrorist attack -- just as he did the shooting in Texas of the army psychiatrist. He must move very quickly to determine who did this, whether the person was or persons were part of a group, what motivated them to do this, what influences pushed him or them to act. And then all of that has to be made known and condemned. If those things don't happen, acts of terrorism will increase.

Hopefully, if Obama and the government really take charge, there will not be a reaction on the left that then justifies even more extreme right-wing acts.

I hope that Obama has an expert on Germany and Austria in the 1920s and 1930s among his advisers.

It is a pattern that could easily be repeated.

Here on DU, it is very important that we continue to dedicate ourselves to nonviolence on all sides.

[calimary]

48. This IS domestic terrorism. Perpetrated quite lopsidedly by the CON side.

You don't see our side running out and grabbing guns and ammo and making threats against public officials with whom we disagree. NOBODY I saw here or elsewhere EVER did that against the bushies, and we hated them with a passion. Our side simply does not do that stuff. It has to be pointed out again and again until it starts sinking in. I'm glad this is going viral. I'm glad other media are picking up on it. I'm glad the dots are being connected. It needs to be labeled "DOMESTIC TERRORISM" and people like palin need to be labeled "Domestic TERRORISTS" or "Terrorist SYMPATHIZERS." It needs to be plastered across the front of them like a scarlet letter.

[bobthedrummer]

12. keep this kicked n/t

[democracy1st]

13. K & R

[bobthedrummer]

14. bttt

[earth mom]

16. This information can't be posted enough! Palin is scrubbing it from her website

because that's what lying EVIL sociopaths do! :grr:

[tblue37]

28. That desperate, hurried attempt at scrubbing it makes her look

even guiltier, because it shows that she and her operatives are perfectly aware of how bad it looks.

[eilen]

29. I can't believe they left it up there so long

I mean, seriously? In the real sane world, if someone put something like that up and it got the blowback in the media -- as well as threats to those named -- it would have been taken down immediately with apology. I don't know what will become of us.

[calimary]

49. Indeed.

But somehow they think if they whitewash their site, it'll just somehow magically go away.

Fat chance, sarah-terrorist.

[paparush]

17. Once again, foreign new agencies doing the leg work for our useless M$M

[AzDar]

19. K & Fookin' R

:kick:

[GrannyK]

24. Kicking n/t

[pacalo]

26. Still relying on British media sources for all the facts. Thank God for "The Guardian".

[A wise Man]

30. AND NOW IT.....

BEGINS......REVOLUTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!WE THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES.

[beyurslf]

32. I am glad they linked but Rep. Giffords is also married, if they are going to make the distinction

between Miss Giffords and Mrs. Palin.

[lillypaddle]

51. Her husband has a different last name

so she isn't really Mrs. Gifford. They should have used "Ms."

[Rosa Luxemburg]

34. Palin is a terrorist

[fishwax]

35. good to see

:kick:

[mudplanet]

36. Palin's map is reprehensible, but I don't think the killing has anything to do

with it.

I had a chance to look at the kid's youtube page before it was taken down and I'm fairly sure he's schizophrenic. Fixed bizarre delusions, and reports from his former classmates about his behavior support this conclusion. I suspect Giffords was chosen due to easy availability. He might have shot any politician.

[YDogg]

38. I didn't know Dr. Drew ...

... was on DU. We can all take comfort from your diagnosis.

[liberation]

39. Yeah, but he did not shot any other politician.

The point is not that specific map led to this specific crime. The point is that maps like those, and all the eliminationist rhetoric coming from Palin and pals are sending people over the edge.

Good grief.

[mwb970]

50. Oh come on.

He shot a Democrat in a crazy-conservative state bristling with weapons and hate for liberals. And you think the reson was "easy availability".

Just FYI, this is exactly the line that the republican assholes were putting out yesterday afternoon: the "isolated incident" meme. I say BS.

[valerief]

41. Of course, it's a European newspaper. nt

[Tx4obama]

42. K & R n/t

[bergie321]

43. Gifford's Tea Party opponent Jesse Kelly

Held a fundraiser in June:

[gkilne]

44. well shoot

A 22-year-old woman in Arizona, Caitie Parker, claimed on her Twitter feed that she went to high school and college with the gunman, and was in a band with him. She described his politics in the past as "left wing, quite liberal, & oddly obsessed with the 2012 prophecy." She also described him as having a lot of friends "until he got alcohol poisoning in '06" and dropped out of school. "Mainly loner very philosophical."
Parker described the gunman meeting Rep. Gabrielle Giffords previously: "He was a political radical & met Giffords once before in '07, asked her a question & he told me she was 'stupid & unintelligent.'"
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40980334/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/from/toolbar

[Quantess]

45. Your source is a 22 year old woman on a twitter feed who claims she knows him.

For what it's worth.

[gkilne]

58. Take it for what you will but....

anyone who doesn't also equally denounce the daily kos for using the terms "target list" and "bulls eye" on a list that included Giffords is a complete hypocrite.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/6/25/1204/74882/511/541568
And while blaming Palin, why no mention about the daily kos post on Jan 6th about Giffords that exclaimed “My CongressWOMAN voted against Nancy Pelosi! And is now DEAD to me!”.

Those on the far left and far right are quick to point the finger of blame. They should all take a look in the mirror and blame themselves.

[Quantess]

59. That's interesting. Thanks.

[Vattel]

53. We don't know if a link exists.

Palin's “target map” on her website using images of gun sights was irresponsible, but we don't know if it specifically, or hateful rightwing rhetoric in general, led to this incident.

[political_Dem]

54. K and R. At least there is one place in the media that doesn't sugarcoat it.

Here's hoping that other media venues follow suit. Sarah Palin should be shamed.

[upi402]

55. Yep, but it's not in this country!

Ouch, huh? There will be a few hours on MSNBC but that's it. Fox is spinning it so increase security and police to separate us from our representatives. Like 'free speech zones' again.

[avaistheone1]

56. K&R

[ejbr]

57. He neglected to mention MLK in his list, but

as a foreigner, he gets a pass.