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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 01:25 PM
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Orrin Hatch: The 'Poor' Should Do More To Shrink Debt, Not The Rich
Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-Utah) voted against beginning debate on a measure that would have the Senate declare the rich should share the pain of debt reduction Thursday, a day after arguing that it's the poor and middle class who need to do more.

"I hear how they're so caring for the poor and so forth," Hatch said in remarks on the Senate floor Wednesday, in reference to Democrats. "The poor need jobs! And they also need to share some of the responsibility."

Hatch's comments were aimed at a motion that passed 74 to 22 to start debating a non-binding resolution that says millionaires and billionaires should play a more meaningful role in reducing the nation's debt.

Just one Democrat, Sen. Ben Nelson (D-Neb.), voted against having the debate. Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-Ala.), who had previously called the resolution "rather pathetic," nevertheless voted to move ahead on it.

But it was Hatch whose remarks Wednesday raised the idea that the wealthy are already doing too much, even as the nation's effective tax rates are at modern lows since the Bush administration slashed rates in 2001 and 2003. In his view, it seems, the middle class and poor should be picking up the slack.

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/07/orrin-hatch-debt-poor-rich_n_892177.html

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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 01:27 PM
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1. if my religion was a pyramid scheme I would think just like Hatch nt
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RZM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 01:33 PM
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5. Sounds more like Scientology than Mormonism n/t
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newspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 08:40 PM
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32. actually the Mormon church is like a huge
corporation. My boss was mormon and we'd debate--he was very much pro-business over people and corporatizing. What really concerned me is his statement that all people should have the same belief in religion, then there would be no fights. I told him, that means as a group you'd force people to believe the way you do with no allowance for questioning. So if the religion held some inhumane beliefs, there would be no one to question or rectify the situation.
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 01:28 PM
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2. Hatch is terrified of getting primaried by the Teahadists..
He's actually considered to be a RINO by the Teabuggers..
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 01:32 PM
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3. How, Mr. Hatch?
Just exactly HOW am *I* supposed to reduce the nation's debt? I make under 20,000 a year. Please tell me what the fuck *I* am supposed to to reduce our debt and NOT become homeless?

Greedy and disingenuous fuckholes these Republicans be.
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 01:33 PM
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4. The man is certifiably crazy. nt
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 01:34 PM
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6. F you Orrin! They already are! Stop ignoring other taxes like sales, payroll, and other taxes
that they pay FAR MORE of a chunk of their salary now than the rich do! F YOU Orrin!
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Maccagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 01:35 PM
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7. I wonder what Ted Kennedy would think about those remarks
Edited on Thu Jul-07-11 01:36 PM by Maccagirl
from a good friend and the Best Man at his wedding?
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 01:37 PM
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8.  Orrin? you are delusional. nt
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 01:39 PM
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9. I hope these idiots keep saying shit like this
You can't make this stuff up!
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 01:41 PM
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10. I don't know... Every time they say it, a few more believe it.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 08:29 PM
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30. I am not sure but I think the more they say it one more
Moderate Republican loses their Republicanism......
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 01:43 PM
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11. K & R !!!
:kick:
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 01:44 PM
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12. "And they also need to share some of the responsibility."
Who do you suppose they should share with? :shrug:
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AsahinaKimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 01:44 PM
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13. Yeah, so saying things like that will get him relected..
Edited on Thu Jul-07-11 01:47 PM by AsahinaKimi
So how about a "homeless slave labor camp" Congressman Hatch? Will that fix things too?
Baka tare, Neboken Ja-Neyo !! Jigoku e ike!
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Buns_of_Fire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 02:16 PM
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21. What you said! ^^^^^^^^^^
I don't know what it means, but if it has anything to do with B'Orrin catching a career-ending case of prickly heat rash or armpit crabs, I'm all for it!:thumbsup:
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AsahinaKimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 02:24 PM
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23. hehehe...
google is your friend!
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Buns_of_Fire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 03:46 PM
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27. Okay, I'll do some work here... (*click*, *click*, cut, *click*, paste, *click*, *click*)...
Hmmmmm..... Most heartfelt and eloquent, I must say, yet direct and to the point. :thumbsup: (If I'm ever in a march again, I've got to figure out how to work "Neboken Ja-Neyo!!" -- along with some other little pithy phrases I found -- in there somewhere...)

Oh, and for the rest of us: http://www.youswear.com/index.asp?language=Japanese
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AsahinaKimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 04:13 PM
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29. sugoii!!
good work!!
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OffWithTheirHeads Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 01:47 PM
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14. so says another multi-millionaire from the ruling class





Shared sacrifice? Fuck you poor people, I don't share anything!
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 01:48 PM
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15. The ethical skankery of Republicon plutocrats is stupefying
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corpseratemedia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 01:49 PM
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16. People are poor, Orrin, because THEY'RE FUCKING POOR
THEY GOT NO FUNDS TO CONTRIBUTE, NOTHING TO SHARE, TO GIVE TO YOU, OR TO ANYBODY ELSE


We need to to collect and collate these jeff sessions orrin hatch fuck the poor statements because what butthole are they going to collect additional funds from? hmm? only theirs, because poor people, that's right, don't have any fucking money. At the end of the month, what is the difference, orrin, between a poor person and a rich one? Can ya take a guess? hmm? Wanna venture? hmm? WHICH ONE HAS NO MONEY????
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 01:49 PM
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17. Hatch is a heartless, twisted, little man
He's done more damage to this country than can ever be measured.
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newspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 08:46 PM
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33. yeah, the difference between someone buying food because
they're starving and someone buying a new yacht. In his belief, I hope he's on the lowest level on the other side.
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Zoeisright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 01:55 PM
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18. Fuck you, Hatch, you asshole.
He really is a piece of shit.
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 01:58 PM
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19. Ben Nelson ugh
Pathetic.
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 02:09 PM
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20. Another old republican that has lost his mind to the lies
much like his bosom buddy mccain
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 02:24 PM
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22. dig a little deeper in the well,well,well, orrin...
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 02:34 PM
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24. When the King used to go riding in the peasants' fields
The King would decide to go hunting in the countryside, bringing his court and the dozens of horses they would ride. He trampled and destroyed the fields of wheat and other crops that he encountered in search of the elusive stag. And at the end of the harvest, he would put to death the farmer who didn't turn in the requisite payments of farm produce to the crown.
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ashling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 02:50 PM
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25. Dickens describes him perfectly
Oh! But he was a tight-fisted hand at the grind- stone, Scrooge! a squeezing, wrenching, grasping, scraping, clutching, covetous, old sinner! Hard and sharp as flint, from which no steel had ever struck out generous fire; secret, and self-contained, and solitary as an oyster. The cold within him froze his old features, nipped his pointed nose, shriveled his cheek, stiffened his gait; made his eyes red, his thin lips blue and spoke out shrewdly in his grating voice. A frosty rime was on his head, and on his eyebrows, and his wiry chin. He carried his own low temperature always about with him


"If they would rather die," said Hatch, "they had better do it, and decrease the surplus population.
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 03:02 PM
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26. It won't be too...
long now.
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 04:04 PM
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28. What are they supposed to do?
Pull money out of their asses? It only works that way in fantasy land.

But considering the source....
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 08:32 PM
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31. Hatch should eat his foot.
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newspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 08:55 PM
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35. they like to talk about welfare queens
but the wealthy and corporations use much more of our resources for pennies on a dollar. Who do you think benefits from war? An american corporation has a little run in with a government, like down in central america. That country's leader informs the corporation that they must pay more taxes and give back some of the land not in use for their own people, the corporation comes crying to uncle sam. Go down there and get that elected leader because he's being mean to us. And, Uncle Sam obliges the greedy crybaby. Of course, we the people, pay the bill.

Our leases are low, so they get to mine, drill, exploit our resources for very little. And, if they must clean up their mess, some find ways around out, so we the people must pay.

The wealthy and corporations haven't sacrificed anything, they've been gaining and gaining and gaining over the poor and middle class, you out of touch, soulless fool.


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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 08:51 PM
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34. Oh just please say "let them eat cake"
Then it's on like Donkey Kong
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 09:29 PM
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36. This just raises my blood pressure. Class warfare.
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_ed_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 11:00 AM
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37. Why get mad at Hatch
when Obama wants the same thing? Obama just says it nicer when he's shoveling money toward the top 1%.
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roomfullofmirrors Donating Member (201 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 11:08 AM
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38. the top 10% of the country controls over 80% of US household wealth.
Edited on Fri Jul-08-11 11:09 AM by roomfullofmirrors
The rest of us struggle to survive while they struggle to buy a third home in Aspen and a fourth one in the Keys. No, the wealthy absolutely got us into this mess by receiving tax cuts at the onset of our march to war. They made a fortune off that war too so they can foot the bill to get us out of this mess or the country can default as far as I'm concerned. I am not afraid of the consequences. That is no BS.
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