LynneSin
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Thu Jul-07-11 03:56 PM
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Either find me a candidate to support in the Democratic primaries or get off my back.. |
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for supporting Barack Obama in 2012.
I am 100% voting Democrat in 2012, not only that I will be happily working my ass off to help get the democrats elected in 2012. Mind you, Barack is not the only one up for election. I plan to help keep Delaware blue by re-electing Governor Jack Markell, Senator Tom Carper and Rep. John Carney. I may even spend some time in Pennsylvania helping to re-elect Senator Bob Casey Jr.
But at this point there isn't one serious challenger to Barack in 2012 in the primaries. I survived 8 years of George Bush in the damn white house, I'm not about to let another republican nutjob take over that place anytime soon.
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Thu Jul-07-11 03:59 PM
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1. You know, you don't have to wait. |
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You could do a lot of things before the General Election to support more liberal/progressive agendas without WAITING to see what you should do )and by then having no real choice).
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Thu Jul-07-11 04:03 PM
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5. At this point I'm not overly worried about the Presidential Election |
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Keeping the Senate and attempting to regain the house is higher on my priority list along with keeping my state deep blue.
Re-electing Obama is just something else I'll be doing in 2012 but I'm not going to waste my valuable time doing this because I'd rather focus on Congress
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Thu Jul-07-11 04:21 PM
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11. You said: "I'd rather focus on Congress." Can I make a further suggestion? |
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And this goes for ALL of us...
We need to focus on electing Democrats to Congress, sure.
However, we also need to work on electing Democrats to state houses all across the country. For me, that's the problem. The Republicans are destroying this country from within because the GOP governors and state legislatures are stripping away rights, one by one, at the state and local level. They dominate state legislatures, thanks to people failing to show up and vote.
I understand that people are angry, but I wish that they wouldn't take their anger out on good Democrats who are running for offices at state/local levels, not to mention these judgeships.
With the help of ALEC (American Legislative Exchange Council) the Republicans are dismantling democracy.
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Thu Jul-07-11 04:31 PM
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Thu Jul-07-11 04:46 PM
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14. I do that too but I live in a deep blue sea of blue |
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I just happen to luck out where I live but you do have a great point!
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Thu Jul-07-11 04:49 PM
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17. But you're in MD, right? We worked hard in VA and PA. n/t |
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Thu Jul-07-11 04:54 PM
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And I know people work hard in these local campaigns.
This is the thing, it's tough for me to get excited about campaigning for some local represenative or senator in a district where I do not live - the concept of wasting gas money just doesn't work for me.
But I can get excited about electing US Senators/Governors or Represenatives and I've made plenty of trips to the Philly area to help out.
But what I make a point of doing is this - when I go to a neighborhood and campaign, I make sure I know who their local rep/senator is (or candidate if it happens to be a republican) so I can make sure they are promoted too.
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Thu Jul-07-11 04:58 PM
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21. True dat. The Dems did a good job with carpools as well. I didn't have to drive |
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all the time to VA and PA. We took vans, carpools, buses so that people didn't have to worry about driving their own vehicles.
I hear you about doing research on the candidates before voting. So many people are angry at Obama because they project onto him what they want him to be. When the fantasy didn't live up to expectation, now they mad. It's ridiculous.
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Thu Jul-07-11 05:14 PM
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23. On a scale of 1-10 I rate him a 5 |
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He's right there in the middle.
He's done alot of good things during his term and he's done some :wtf: moments too.
But I can't risk the Supreme Court which is my #1 voting reason. I suppose if we could give term limits to Supreme Court Justices I'd be more apt to take risks with 3rd party candidates but that's not the case. Although Alito was in his late 50s when he was picked, John Roberts was in his mid-40s. That means Roberts is going to run the Supreme Court for about 30 more years.
Lifetime appointments scare me. It's good we got 2 of our oldest progressive justices replaced (Souter and Stevens) but in the 70-80 age bracket includes: Scalia (hardcore right), Kennedy (Middle of the Road), Ginsburg (left), and Breyer (left). Perhaps if Ginsburg and Breyer retired now before the end of 2012 I'd feel a bit better about things. I would love Kennedy to retire too, he's not been as Heinious as the hardcore right (Roberts, Scalia, Alito and Thomas). But Scalia is a heavy smoker and can't be in good health. We could make a serious change to the Supreme Court if he were to retire/die.
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Thu Jul-07-11 08:14 PM
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27. I'll give him about a 6! |
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Edited on Thu Jul-07-11 04:10 PM by Davis_X_Machina
I don't see any sitting Senator thumbing the Kennedy '80 playbook just yet.
Dean took himself out of consideration .... Mrs. Clinton is part of the Administration Feingold couldn't draw flies last time, and may run in any Walkerstanian governor's election. Plus he took himself out of consideration Weiner took himself out -- boy did he take himself out. Kucinich has taken himself out of consideration...
Sheila Jackson Lee -- but she was saying nice things about the White House's negotiating stance this AM.
DeFazio? Grayson? Warren Moseler?
Democratic governors -- the ones that are left -- are busy with trying to keep their states afloat. What good term-limited governors are there? Deval Patrick isn't running again -- but that's not much of a difference...
It tails off in a hurry, doesn't it?
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Thu Jul-07-11 04:05 PM
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6. Just being Captain Obvious here |
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Thu Jul-07-11 04:07 PM
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7. Or annoying everyone with nonsense. |
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Thu Jul-07-11 04:10 PM
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8. John Sheridan for President? |
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Thu Jul-07-11 04:12 PM
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9. I'll vote Democratic for President... |
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If there's no primary challenger I'll write in a Democrat...put a gun to my head I still won't vote for Obama.
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LynneSin
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Thu Jul-07-11 04:49 PM
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16. Then you might as well just vote for the republican |
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because that's how the two party system we have works
Either you're voting Democrat (or helping by voting Libertarian or any other 3rd party right wing group) or you're voting Republican (or helping by voting Green or any other 3rd party left wing group)
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Thu Jul-07-11 05:24 PM
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I get your point and all but I'm getting a wee bit tired of this one. See, if he voted for a Repub that would be a vote Obama didn't get AND ONE MORE THE REPUB DID. Writing in a name is functionally the same as not voting at all. Actually it can make a bit of a statement as well if enough people were to do it, though I have never really thought that was the time or place to make statements of the type myself.
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Thu Jul-07-11 04:55 PM
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19. LOL. You get on wit' your bad self...nt |
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Thu Jul-07-11 04:17 PM
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10. THE VOICE OF REASON, AS ALWAYS!!!! K&R!!! n/t |
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Thu Jul-07-11 04:48 PM
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15. What LynneSin said n/t |
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Thu Jul-07-11 04:56 PM
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20. With you all the way, Lynne. Nt |
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Thu Jul-07-11 05:05 PM
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22. Because Pres. Obama likely will not be re-elected, look for a primary challenger. |
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The House Democrats have had their fill of President Obama's capitulations. They know that with a dispirited base and high unemployment, Pres. Obama is likely a one term president. Anticipate an ambitious Democrat from the House to want to make a name for himself or herself. With Obama retired, that person will have the inside track for the nomination in 2016.
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Thu Jul-07-11 05:16 PM
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24. And when will that candidate step forward |
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16 months until the election is not enough time to build a serious democratic campaign against Obama.
And the only person who might give Obama a run for the money is Mitt Romney but the hardcore right can't stand him - he won't get out of the primaries.
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Thu Jul-07-11 06:23 PM
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26. It is plenty of time. |
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People didn't used to start running 2 years ahead of time until Hillary Clinton.
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Thu Jul-07-11 10:21 PM
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29. Agreed: There is plenty of time. The effort will be to create post-Obama leadership for our party. |
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Edited on Thu Jul-07-11 10:21 PM by MrTriumph
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