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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 04:37 PM Original message |
"Lifting the cap on SS payments is one of the measures... that's being discussed" --Rep. Clyburn |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 04:39 PM Response to Original message |
1. Bravo. n/t |
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Richardo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 04:43 PM Response to Original message |
2. That's the ticket. |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 04:46 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. My guess is that we get the cap taken off in exchange for making the payroll tax holiday permanent |
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FreakinDJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 07:15 PM Response to Reply #7 |
50. Tax Holiday is a proven "Job Killer" |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-11 12:14 PM Response to Reply #50 |
60. What does offshore cash have to do with PAYROLL taxes? nt |
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Lugnut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 04:44 PM Response to Original message |
3. Now we're talking. |
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damntexdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 04:45 PM Response to Original message |
4. Right on! |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 04:46 PM Response to Original message |
5. This would be awesome /nt |
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whathehell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 04:46 PM Response to Original message |
6. YAY!....That's an acceptable change! |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 04:48 PM Response to Original message |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 04:48 PM Response to Original message |
9. I have long favored this |
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librechik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 04:50 PM Response to Original message |
10. Dem caucus is not in the talks |
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wryter2000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 04:52 PM Response to Original message |
11. K&R |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 04:59 PM Response to Original message |
12. Woo hoo! If only those Republican graverobbers would get high and vote in favor of this. nt |
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supraTruth (352 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 06:44 PM Response to Reply #12 |
44. President needs to tell boehner&cantor that CONgressional pay will be cut 1st if DEADline is missed! |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 06:47 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. Can the prez cut Congressional and staffer pay and benes? nt |
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supraTruth (352 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 07:10 PM Response to Reply #45 |
49. If we begin to run out of $ thanks to THEIR FAILURES, why not? |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 07:55 PM Response to Reply #49 |
53. I thought Congress controlled the purse strings. nt |
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supraTruth (352 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 10:03 PM Response to Reply #53 |
58. Not when we run out of $; then it becomes the job of the Treas.Sec. to choose WHICH bills to pay or |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 11:20 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. Oh, yeah. Well, first thing he should do is cancel all congressional health insurance. nt |
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theaocp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 05:05 PM Response to Original message |
13. Pessimism alert! Pessimism alert! |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 05:06 PM Response to Original message |
14. Solution to what? |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 05:08 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Care to elaborate on that statement? |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 05:28 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. Surplus SS tax has been used to finance tax cuts for the rich and wars for their businesses. |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 05:34 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. That's not how the Social Security Trust Fund works. |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 05:54 PM Response to Reply #21 |
28. It is a loan to the general budget ... |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 05:58 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. That's not quite right. The Trust Fund contains treasury bonds. |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 06:19 PM Response to Reply #31 |
37. Never said the Trust Fund did not contain Treasury bonds, that is what the TF holds... |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 06:48 PM Response to Reply #37 |
46. Here. |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 08:18 PM Response to Reply #46 |
57. Agree, why let them steal more money for tax cuts and wars. n/t |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 06:06 PM Response to Reply #21 |
34. Surplus SS taxes are loaned to the government. With me so far? |
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WCGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 05:07 PM Response to Original message |
15. I would like that if.... |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 05:25 PM Response to Original message |
17. Good. Now why isn't Obama saying that publicly? n/t |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 05:35 PM Response to Reply #17 |
22. He has been. Repeatedly. But DUers don't like to listen to that part. nt |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 05:44 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. Let's have a url dated 2011, please. What he said in 2008 about anything-- |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 05:57 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. This was LITERALLY the first result in Google. |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 06:01 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. A direct quote from the article |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 06:08 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. So you're going to cite an obscure policy paper rather than what came out of his own mouth? nt |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 06:20 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. The "obscure policy paper" is the basis for current negotiations. |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 06:24 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. Justify your spin however you like. Fact is, Obama supports uncapping FICA. |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 06:28 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. So why isn't he using his bully pulpit to motivate the public to call congress-- |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 07:19 PM Response to Reply #22 |
51. They're too busy parroting "Another pretty speech" |
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Logical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 05:27 PM Response to Original message |
18. Then the need to increase payouts to the people also. They are paying more in. n-t |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 05:43 PM Response to Reply #18 |
24. No, most people wouldn't be. |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 05:51 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. And what of the maximum benefit? |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 05:56 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. I'm not sure what you're asking. nt |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 06:14 PM Response to Reply #29 |
36. There is a correlation between what is paid in and what is paid out... |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 06:25 PM Response to Reply #36 |
41. Some correlation, but it's not tied to it. Social Security is not a pension program. |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 08:16 PM Response to Reply #41 |
56. From the SS link I posted to you before ... |
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Hangingon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 05:29 PM Response to Original message |
20. Unlimited caps have many of the problems associated with |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 05:43 PM Response to Reply #20 |
25. Could you elaborate, there? |
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BlueCheese (897 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 06:05 PM Response to Reply #25 |
33. I think what he or she means is that... |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 06:22 PM Response to Reply #33 |
39. Problem is, Social Security is not a pension system. |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 05:37 PM Response to Original message |
23. A few years ago the Dems said SS was Not a problem ... |
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supraTruth (352 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 06:39 PM Response to Original message |
43. Only good news I have heard yet from these negotiations; & President needs to tell boehner&cantor: |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 06:50 PM Response to Original message |
47. Or someone who earns that $106,000 the first day |
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supraTruth (352 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 07:01 PM Response to Original message |
48. Does ANY1 have the ear of MSNBC? Tell them to tell Pres. to tell boehner&cantor that CONgressional |
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blue neen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 07:20 PM Response to Original message |
52. K&R |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 08:04 PM Response to Original message |
54. Why are the Dems allowing this to be discussed as part of the debt ceiling negotiations ... |
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BumRushDaShow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-07-11 08:06 PM Response to Original message |
55. K&R |
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