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ls317 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 10:43 AM
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More Crazy Shit from Bachmann
Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN) became the first presidential candidate to sign a pledge created by The Family Leader, a conservative, Iowa-based Christian group that opposes same sex marriage, Sharia law and pornography.

By signing the pledge (PDF), Bachmann vowed to support a constitutional amendment banning same sex marriage, as well as agreeing that same sex marriage was akin to polygamy.

The document also implies that homosexuality is a choice.

"No peer-reviewed empirical science or rational demonstration has ever definitively proven, nor has even shown an overwhelming probability that homosexual preference or behavior is irresistible as a function of genetic determination or other forms of fatalism," according to the Christian group.

With her signature, Bachmann seemed to be implicitly agreeing that black children were better off during slavery.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/07/08/bachmann-pledges-to-ban-all-forms-of-pornography/
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 10:46 AM
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1. She's a damn fool and also off her rocker! n/t
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ls317 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 10:47 AM
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3. More Crazy Shit from Bachmann
Unreal..I am sure the teabaggers are jacking them selves off......... Ugh!
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hifiguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 10:46 AM
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2. I read that "pledge" off another post
and it is enough to scare the hair off a gorilla. Substitute "Allah" for "God" and it could have been written in Saudi Arabia. There's not a dime's worth of difference between Shari'a law and the fever dreams of the Xtian Dominionists.
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ls317 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 10:49 AM
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4. More Crazy Shit from Bachmann
With her signature, Bachmann seemed to be implicitly agreeing that black children were better off during slavery.

I wonder what history books she was reading !
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geardaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 10:55 AM
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5. But the Founding Fathers worked tirelessly to end slavery!
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 10:55 AM
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6. Was that the same slavery that the founding fathers fought hard to eliminate?
Am I allowed to say "eliminate?" :shrug:

--imm
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 10:57 AM
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8. Yeah, good point. We have extremists here, like Bachmann, that make the
others of the world look pretty sane. She is sooooo anti-American.

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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 11:03 AM
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12. This is what scares me most...
And is no doubt why the founding fathers decided on a firm separation of church and state! There is not one iota of difference between the religious nutjobs of any stripe! When people want to start passing laws based on religion you know the patients are in charge of the asylum! Even Jesus knew it was a bad idea. "Give unto Caesar what belongs to Caesar, and give unto God what belongs to God."

If we pass laws based on one religion, we must entertain all such ridiculousness from all religions.

I love spiritual people, but religious people scare the hell out of me.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 11:30 AM
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15. Well said! These people are about power, domination, control and servitude, and
they want to place themselves at the top of the heap. Look at any person placed on a high pedestal in nut job religions and one sees that's what they are all about. We see it over and over and over again, and then you take away the curtain and look in, you generally find some pretty deranged scary people. We have separation of church and state for some pretty damn good reasons. What comes first, insanity or religious fervor.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 11:34 AM
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16. Based on her logic, all religions should be running the country, what gives
her brand of religion the authority to rule the nation, other that it's her brand. Oh, I forgot, she's special, she talks to god. :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 02:04 PM
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18. My ancient religious writings, rules, and dogma...
Supersedes your ancient religious writings, rules, and dogma! Harrumph!

My God can beat the crap outta your God!

Yeah, it's pretty sick.
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denverbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 10:56 AM
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7. I love that this pledge also pans Sharia Law, while legislating Christian morality.
Banning pornography? Good luck getting the freepers to approve that.
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BillStein Donating Member (403 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 11:05 AM
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13. Fundamentalism is the real enemy
whether it's Islam, X-ian or Judaic... Fight extremism!
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givemebackmycountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 11:00 AM
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9. On MSNBC this morning I hear this...
The Family Leader, a group that supports "traditional Christian Conservative values".

I HATE the term, TRADITIONAL CHRISTIAN CONSERVATIVE VALUES.
Take your traditional Christian Conservative Values, and shove them up your ass.
And keep them out of my life.

And leave Gay people alone while you are at.
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Bryn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 11:02 AM
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10. Great rant!
I completely agree with post.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 11:02 AM
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11. +1000 +++ n/t
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 02:08 PM
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19. Damn straight...
Leave us all the hell alone! I'm a recovering Fundy... and I support this message!

I'm disgusted. "Traditional" Christian values are ANYTHING but conservative! Not how that word is used today! Jesus was a socialist, FCOL! The current conservative dogma flies in the face of what true Christianity is all about.

Many will come in his name and will fool even God's chosen... Jesus laid it all out... or someone did. And it's happening. And one of the few truths in their scripture is lost on them now.

:banghead:
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buddysmellgood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 11:10 AM
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14. These asshats need to wake up and realize that banning gay marriage destroys straight marriage.
There are far too many gay people marrying straight people and then coming out after there are kids etc. If we didn't have such shitty attitudes about gay people, this sort of shit would happen a lot less. It's fucking devastating to find out your wife married you only for your sperm and has been fucking your friends.
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RedCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 11:35 AM
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17. Why doesn't she just wear a brown shirt and be done with it?
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