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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-11 08:46 PM
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Obama press conference Monday morning. Hopefully he will force
Edited on Sun Jul-10-11 08:47 PM by applegrove
the GOP to actually govern. So far they have been 'ungoverning' since they won the House. That is what they GOP are:

the un-government

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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-11 08:52 PM
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1. I'm going to go out a limb right now and say
Edited on Sun Jul-10-11 08:57 PM by Marr
Obama will announce that nothing was resolved, and the crisis is looming before us, darker and scarier than ever. "Danger, danger, danger" will be the message of the day, and it will be blasted from every corporate media outlet. They're just starting to ramp up the fear campaign that's been simmering for months.

Sometime in the last week of July, we'll get the big "compromise", and it will be sold as having saved us from armageddon.

The threat is complete bullshit, of course, as big business stands to lose more than any of us from an economic meltdown, and they want the debt ceiling raised. At any other time, DU would be unanimous in it's assessment that the GOP is owned by big business, but right now many of us actually seem to buy this bullshit about them bucking Wall Street in pursuit of ideology. People-- big business *is* their ideology. It's the ideology of our neoliberals, too. The debt ceiling will be raised, even if it means every bastard in government loses his seat.
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-11 09:06 PM
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5. And I bet the "compromise" will be that the Republicans were holding
the entire economy hostage so Obama had no choice but to sacrifice Social Security and Medicare to save it.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-11 09:11 PM
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8. Exactly
This is theater on a grand scale, designed to make the people grateful for getting screwed over by the usual big money campaign donors of both parties.

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Dept of Beer Donating Member (957 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-11 09:14 PM
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9. We'll just have to wait and see who compromises...

and who apologizes for it later on.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-11 09:40 PM
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15. There may be a compromise...
But apologies? Never.

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Dept of Beer Donating Member (957 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-11 10:35 PM
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20. Why wouldn't you believe that.

Now there's a list of accomplishments around here some place...
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riderinthestorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-11 09:15 PM
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10. +1 to both you and Marr. nt
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CrossChris Donating Member (641 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 09:35 AM
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27. I know people who could have told you two years ago exactly what's happening today.
It's so obvious. But what can we do but watch it unfold?
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INdemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-11 09:26 PM
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11. Or he will announce that he is running as a
Republican in 2012 as he rightfully should since he has been a Republican corporatist all along.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-11 10:22 PM
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19. The corp-overlords want him to run as a Democrat. Otherwise we could run a real Democrat against him
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-11 09:30 PM
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12. The debt ceiling will not be raised. There are not enough republican votes for that to happen.
The teabaggers are in charge now.
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-11 09:33 PM
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13. So you think the U.S. will default on its debt on August 1?
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-11 09:38 PM
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14. Yes.
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-11 09:42 PM
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16. Great analysis, if I may say so.
Agreed.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 04:39 AM
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23. + What you said.
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BlueDemKev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-11 08:55 PM
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2. Ask the tea-baggers to GOVERN???
You must be joking....the tea-baggers don't know how to run the government, only their mouths. :rofl:
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-11 08:58 PM
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3. he should use the bully pulpit day in, day out.
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Dept of Beer Donating Member (957 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-11 09:06 PM
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6. That he should.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-11 09:05 PM
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4. Obama once said, "I don't do cowering". I wish he would start playing hardball,
kick ass & take names, stop being Joe Pragmatist and the Great Compromiser. I want him to be an angry Democrat and draw a line in the sand and let the Republicans clearly know that it will not be crossed, that cherished Democratic values and ideals will not be sacrificed at the altar of the Republicans' god of more money for the wealthy while cutting loose the poor and the needy.
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Logical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-11 09:08 PM
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7. Why does Obama seem scared to call them out for the asses they are???
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AldebTX Donating Member (739 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-11 10:10 PM
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17. I Think People Give Tea Baggers Too Much Credit
People seem to think they have some reason buried deep in their souls. Being surrounded by Baggers hear in Texas. They WANT the US to default. They think it will make a point and hat Obsma will get blamed for any calamity that results. A win win in their books.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-11 10:15 PM
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18. Hell having psychopaths all over your life will make one masochistic at times.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-11 11:43 PM
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21. I'd rather Obama just stayed in the White House and away
from cuts to Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid.

Keeping the Bush tax cuts for the rich and cutting Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid is stealing from the poor and middle class to give to the rich. That is all it is.

Obama should be ashamed. If he can't do better than this, he should quit.

If Obama had been president during the Civil Rights era, we would still have segregation.

I was thinking today about how so many Democrats have convinced themselves that the non-violent marches won the day for integration and equal rights.

But I was a kid then and an avid reader of the newspapers. My memory is the photo in the newspaper of armed guards accompanying children to school in Little Rock. It was federal troops who scared Southerners into reluctance compliance with the integration decisions of the Supreme Court and the Civil Rights laws passed by Congress under LBJ.

Obama would never have called in troops to support what was right. He doesn't even have the courage to watch out for the poor and the elderly. What a sad day.
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girl_interrupted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 12:07 AM
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22. Very sad indeed, but true
Agree with you 100%.
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 09:01 AM
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25. Well said. nt
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 09:46 AM
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28. That about sums it up.
He was not the President this country needed, honestly. The sad thing is, he actually knows the type of leader this country needs and articulated those traits and characteristics during his first campaign.

Why he hasn't adhered to that rhetoric is a mystery we will be debating for some time, I suspect.
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daa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 08:53 AM
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24. Does anybody even listen to him anymore, really?? nt
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Broderick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 09:04 AM
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26. crap
choices.

This is the same time Tiger makes his mysterious announcement.
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