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JohnyCanuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 08:37 AM Original message |
The Worlds Largest Human Experiment: GMOs, Roundup And The Monsanto Monstrosity |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 08:41 AM Response to Original message |
1. The GMOs are harmless, it's the RoundUp that is the dangerous shit. |
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JohnyCanuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 09:13 AM Response to Reply #1 |
5. GMO's are harnless? Who says? Monsanto? |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 09:17 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. "Some independent scientists" also say that global climate |
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JohnyCanuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 09:39 AM Response to Reply #7 |
11. So why are they so scared to let independent scientists |
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SpiralHawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 09:34 AM Response to Reply #5 |
9. GMOs may be catatrophically harmful. According to a literature review, the debate is wide open |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 09:38 AM Response to Reply #5 |
10. Who says? Science. |
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JohnyCanuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 12:42 PM Response to Reply #10 |
32. See post #11 above n/t |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 01:51 PM Response to Reply #32 |
38. You cited a concern over intellectual property rights enforcement |
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JohnyCanuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 07:38 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. University of Washington Prof: The Independent Scientist "barely exists any more" |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 08:08 AM Response to Reply #41 |
43. You want me to find proof that vaccines cause autism from equally reliable groups? |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 09:16 AM Response to Reply #1 |
6. To hear some talk, GMOs, particularly in the food chain, are |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 09:39 AM Response to Reply #6 |
12. I only eat all natural foods, unaltered by man |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 09:55 AM Response to Reply #12 |
16. Pine nuts gathered in a National Park, maybe. |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 09:58 AM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Yeah it's not really practical for 99% of the population |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:06 AM Response to Reply #18 |
22. You bet. STAMP OUT DNA IN FOOD! |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:44 AM Response to Reply #22 |
26. Apparently we stopped teaching science in this country |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 11:10 AM Response to Reply #26 |
29. Yes. Well, I gave up that fight long ago. |
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SpiralHawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 09:45 AM Response to Reply #6 |
14. Those are all the standard lameass bio-tech mutant arguments. |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 09:56 AM Response to Reply #14 |
17. Yes, yes. So, tell me how to tell the woo from the science on this. |
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SpiralHawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:06 AM Response to Reply #17 |
21. Be conservative |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 05:55 PM Response to Reply #17 |
54. so should the market decide science for us too? |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 09:59 AM Response to Reply #14 |
19. "dismantle the basic integrity of the natural world" hahahaah! |
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SpiralHawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:10 AM Response to Reply #19 |
23. Your wholesale condemnation of industrial corporate agriculture (R) is duly noted |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 01:23 PM Response to Reply #23 |
33. Huh? |
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robcon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 08:19 AM Response to Reply #14 |
45. What a quote: "dismantle the basic integrity of the natural world." |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 08:53 AM Response to Original message |
2. I think most people are ignorant of and many willfully so to the monster that Monsanto is |
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JohnyCanuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 09:05 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Documentaries like this one, for example: |
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MedicalAdmin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 09:06 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. We need to stop bringing knives to gun fights. |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 09:40 AM Response to Reply #2 |
13. Monsanto has many horrible business practices, however that has nothing to do with |
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CanSocDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 09:55 AM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Not dangerous? |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:00 AM Response to Reply #15 |
20. Those things you mention are business practices |
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CanSocDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 12:26 PM Response to Reply #20 |
31. You shouldn't be so quick.... |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 01:26 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. Again, |
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lunasun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:33 AM Response to Reply #13 |
25. you are not looking for the studies then.......also. |
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SpiralHawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 11:15 AM Response to Reply #13 |
30. Your statment is complete BS. GMOs may be cataclysmically dangerous. |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 01:28 PM Response to Reply #30 |
36. And that is the proof that they are dangerous |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 05:58 PM Response to Reply #36 |
55. So you are fine with the market selling something that is potentially dangerous? |
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robcon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 08:24 AM Response to Reply #30 |
46. When "no one knows for sure yet" is your response, I would label that hysteria, not science. |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 09:25 AM Response to Original message |
8. recommend |
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lunasun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:12 AM Response to Original message |
24. Organic Consumers Association |
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The Midway Rebel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:48 AM Response to Original message |
27. While GMO's MAY be safe to eat... |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 11:10 AM Response to Reply #27 |
28. Dude! Corn in a can from any crop is not biodiverse. |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 01:29 PM Response to Reply #27 |
37. How bio-diverse is a huge field of any crop? |
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The Midway Rebel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 07:50 PM Response to Reply #37 |
42. You mean compared to a field of Monsanto GMO corn? Very. |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 08:15 AM Response to Reply #42 |
44. You have no experience with agriculture or genetics do you? |
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The Midway Rebel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 08:26 AM Response to Reply #44 |
47. Whose definitions are we working with? |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 08:28 AM Response to Reply #47 |
48. Ok so let's burn down a few acres of forest |
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The Midway Rebel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 08:40 AM Response to Reply #48 |
49. No need to do that. |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 08:45 AM Response to Reply #49 |
50. Really? |
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The Midway Rebel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 08:54 AM Response to Reply #50 |
51. Yes, it is called biodiversity. |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 09:09 AM Response to Reply #51 |
52. Bwahahahaah |
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The Midway Rebel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 05:48 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. Bactrack much? |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-13-11 08:13 AM Response to Reply #53 |
56. Let me repeat this really slowly for you: |
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The Midway Rebel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-13-11 09:31 AM Response to Reply #56 |
57. Just as I predicted. |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-13-11 11:49 AM Response to Reply #57 |
58. Sigh |
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The Midway Rebel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-13-11 11:56 AM Response to Reply #58 |
59. Sigh indeed. |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-13-11 11:58 AM Response to Reply #59 |
60. You didn't read it did you? |
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The Midway Rebel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-13-11 12:10 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. 404 not found. |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-13-11 12:17 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. Sigh, that was exactly my point |
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The Midway Rebel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-13-11 06:37 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. OMG! |
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EvolveOrConvolve (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-13-11 06:49 PM Response to Reply #63 |
64. You do a good impersonation of a brick wall |
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The Midway Rebel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-13-11 06:59 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. ... eom |
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The Midway Rebel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-13-11 07:03 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. Do you have anything to add... |
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EvolveOrConvolve (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-13-11 08:34 PM Response to Reply #66 |
67. Nope, snark is about all I have |
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The Midway Rebel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-13-11 10:10 PM Response to Reply #67 |
68. Not exactly a win. |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 08:32 AM Response to Reply #68 |
71. From your wikipedia: |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 08:26 AM Response to Reply #63 |
70. No, it means that if you're going to cite something over and over again |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
35. The greatest danger is enforcement of patent monopolies on food. |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 02:14 PM Response to Reply #35 |
39. Yes! That is the real concern here |
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69. no BEES and no BUTTERFLYS this year |
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