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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 09:20 AM
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Some of the many similarities between Nazis and Republicans
Republicans strike me as Nazi Light. Actually, not even THAT light. How we've allowed this sort of creatures to exist, and still pretend they're simply normal right wingers, is beyond me. In any case, here are a few of the similarities between the two groups.

SIMILARITIES BETWEEN REPUBLICANS AND NAZIS:

1) The scapegoating of, and prohibition of unions;

2) Allowing the confiscation, removal and arrest based only on suspicion of acts 'against the state;'
the torture of mega-millions without trials;

3) Allowing corporations to use prisoners as free or nearly-free labor;

4) The torture and murder of anyone socialist, Communist, or in disagreement with right wing fascism;

5) The fooling of the population through propaganda, as well as deceptively named groups;

6) The promotion of certain groups (a uber-race, or a uber-group) to the exclusion of others;

7) The murder of mega-millions without trials;

8) A contempt for democracy (Hitler said Democracy was corrupt and soft, while Bush said being a dictator would be easier than being president);

9) The association of patriotic symbols as propaganda (so that anyone in disagreement with the regime could be scapegoated as 'unpatriotic');

10) The scapegoating of the poor, the colored, the unusual, the disabled, the helpless, the handicapped, the gay, the feeble-minded;

11) The use of religion to promote regime and thought control - xenophobia (God is seen as Republican, and German Nazis had belt buckles that read, “Gott Mitt Uns” (God is with us));
a love of war;

12) The use of distractions (Reichstag fire used to suspend liberties. GW Bush lied about WMDs in Iraq, so he could attack the country);

13) A love of radio propagated propaganda (nowadays we have that as well, hosted by many Joseph Goebbels);
a worship of authoritarians (strong, sociopathic leaders feigning patriotism, who are blindly followed by their followers, even when the truth is exposed);

14) No compassion; and,

15) The abolishment of abortion.

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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 09:22 AM
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1. the unreccers are really unhinged this morning -- upset at an anti-Palin post
...and now this.

Though one can see a connection between both unreccings, of course...
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 10:29 AM
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 09:25 AM
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2. Did Hitler really abolish abortion?
Edited on Mon Jul-11-11 09:27 AM by Ian David
It looks like Hitler was opposed to an individual choosing abortion for themselves, but wanted to reserve the right for the government to force people to have an abortion when the government saw fit.

http://www.angelfire.com/mo/baha/nazis.html



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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 09:38 AM
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4. The state owned the uterus, and the purpose of the uterus was to spit out a bunch of
"Good Germans" with the appropriate coloring--those blue eyes, that light hair!

I'd say they were into eugenics, rather than opposed to abortion.

Good catch.
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 09:58 AM
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7. Or as George Carlin put it:
"They believe a woman's primary role is to function as a broodmare for the state."
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 10:30 AM
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12. Exactly. Same reason Repugs want to abolish abortion nt
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 11:07 AM
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20. Exactly! That's the typical right wing view. nt
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 10:29 AM
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10. Check wiki
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 04:06 PM
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22. Thanks. n/t
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 09:38 AM
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 10:28 AM
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8. In what regard? Read what wikipedia says.
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 10:45 AM
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16. It has been my experience that posters who refer to
Edited on Mon Jul-11-11 10:52 AM by Zorra
other posters here at DU as "ignorant" are themselves often the most misinformed posters in our DU community.

They often spout untruths or half-truths. Many of these posters are actually trolls, trying to defend a position with information they got from some mass emailing that originated at the Heritage Foundation or some other RW group that preys upon the fundamental lack of knowledge, learning, and accurate perception so prevalent among conservatives.

That said, the article from Wikipedia below seems to present a more accurate representation of the abortion issue than the opinions you presented.
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Legalization of abortion was first widely discussed in Germany during the early 20th century. During the Weimar Republic, this discussion led to a reduction in the maximum penalty for abortion, and in 1927 to the legalization - by court decision - of abortion in cases of grave danger to the life of the mother.

In Nazi Germany, the penalties for abortion were increased again. From 1943, abortion was threatened with the death penalty. <1> On the other hand, abortion was at times forced upon members of parts of society that were considered undesirable.

After World War II, abortion remained broadly illegal in both East Germany and West Germany, with West Germany retaining the legal situation of 1927 while East Germany passed a slightly more encompassing set of exceptions in 1950. The legal requirements in the West were extremely strict, and often led women to seek abortions elsewhere, particularly in the Netherlands.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_in_Germany
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toddwv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 10:51 AM
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17. You call others "ignorant of history"?
Abortion was legalized prior to the Nazis gaining power. In 1933 the Nazis made abortions illegal. In 1934 the Hereditary Health Court in Hamburg excepted racially motivated abortions.

The Nazis considered women as little more than sperm receptacles who, with a few exceptions, were expected to stay at home and raise families.

In fact, Himmler himself opened up the "Reich Central Office for the Combating of Homosexuality and Abortion: Special Office" a subdepartment of the Gestapo.

So the Nazis were in favor of using FORCED abortion for the "racially unpure" but were worried that VOLUNTARY abortion, sterilization and contraception would reduce their "racially pure" aryan birth rates.

They were against the individual right to make personal reproductive choices.

So if you're going to proclaim someone else as "ignorant of history" why don't you try avoiding giving just 1/2 the story?


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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 11:04 AM
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19. Thank you. nt
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 09:50 AM
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5. I have no great love for extreme RW Republicans, but you know...
a little bit of searching will bring up the same sort of comparisons between Democrats and Nazis, as believed by Republicans.

There are any number of ways a particular group can be likened to another group.

What the Nazis did was vile. Like I said, I'm not a fan of RW nuts, but to vilify the whole party like that is really nasty. I thought Democrats were supposed to be better than that.



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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 10:31 AM
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13. Not by a long shot, unless one is doing drugs. Right wing ideology is one step away from Naziism
And it's up to libs to stop them.
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 08:13 PM
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25. Like I said...
There are plenty of people on the other side who would make the same statements about Democrats.

Not only that, but the level of hysteria that's been stinking up the place lately looks exactly like the RW hysteria over things they are POSITIVE are going to happen to them with just as much "proof".

Aughhhhhhhhhhhh!!! They're gonna come and take away our BIBLES!!!

They're coming after our GUNNNNSSSS!!!!

Sharia Law!!!! It's COMING!!! Watch out!!!!



People here laugh at the Freepers for that, but never even figure out that hysteria over something that hasn't even happened yet...and which they don't even know for SURE will happen...is just as ridiculous.

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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 09:53 AM
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6. Yes They are... and they KNOW IT TOO!
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 10:30 AM
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11. Yes. Right wing ideology is just one tiny step away from Naziism. Only WE libs can stop them.
Period!
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 10:32 AM
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14. I love your screen name, by the way. It's exactly how I feel. nt
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 12:10 PM
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21. Thanks...
I felt the screen name was bit over-the-top however, I felt the word fascism itself needed to be injected into the public debate sphere...

America's gross distortion of the truth lies in the fact that the right wing has been distracting Americans for 30 years from their own agenda (fascist) by creating a political witch hunt for Socialism.
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Nye Bevan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 10:37 AM
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15. The Republicans allowed the 2008 elections to take place as scheduled,
Edited on Mon Jul-11-11 10:39 AM by Nye Bevan
lost convincingly, and then graciously handed over power to their Democratic opponents.

How Nazi-like of them.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 11:03 AM
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18. You seem to think I called this a Nazi nation. Re-read my post.
I'm saying that there are similarities between the two.

Further, the fact that this is NOT a fascist nation, has less to do with Republicans not being fascist, than it does with the fact that there are libs in this country fighting as much as they can against the extreme right wingers we've had destroying our freedoms and country since the 1980s.
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Marengo Donating Member (296 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 07:44 PM
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23. "Gott Mit Uns" was not peculiar to the Nazis
The motto appeared long before that. Frederick the 1st of Prussia's coat of arms(woodcut circa 1709)included the phrase, which is also found on the belt buckle of Prussian soldiers from, IIRC, as early as 1847.

Additionally, the buckle of the fanatical SS bore a different motto: Meine Ehre heißt Treue ("My Honour is Loyalty.")
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 07:58 PM
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24. Un-recced for the Nazi/Hitler reference and...
Interestingly it has been posted on DU more than a just a few times that Obama has the same policies as the previous administration.

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