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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 12:45 PM Original message |
Obama's speech angered me. I have done an about face on politicians since 2003. |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 12:46 PM Response to Original message |
1. recommend |
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VeryConfused (725 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 12:51 PM Response to Original message |
2. Where are your posts holding the GOP accountable? |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 12:54 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. The president is a Democrat. |
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VeryConfused (725 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 12:56 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. First off you didn't give me a link showing even one post calling out the GOP |
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kickysnana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 12:58 PM Response to Reply #8 |
13. The only reason the SC is stacked is because the Dems let it be. |
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VeryConfused (725 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 01:01 PM Response to Reply #13 |
17. I disagree, the liberals are to blame |
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Flubadubya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 01:20 PM Response to Reply #17 |
39. Oh dear, another liberal hater/blamer... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 06:35 PM Response to Reply #39 |
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Hydra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 01:37 PM Response to Reply #17 |
45. So where did Alito and Roberts come from then? |
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Fuddnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 04:10 PM Response to Reply #45 |
79. Or Scalia and Thomas? |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 04:01 PM Response to Reply #17 |
76. Liberals don't have a huge power base to draw from like the GOP does. |
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VeryConfused (725 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 10:30 AM Response to Reply #76 |
183. Ralph Nader |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 10:33 AM Response to Reply #183 |
188. Wrong liberals didn't vote for Ralph, how quickly we lie |
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VeryConfused (725 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 10:45 AM Response to Reply #188 |
190. Really? You are trying to claim that liberals didn't vote for Ralph? |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 02:09 PM Response to Reply #190 |
223. Oh so you can do it, but I cannot. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 04:07 PM Response to Reply #17 |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 04:21 PM Response to Reply #17 |
84. Yay, another liberal basher. Do you work for this White House? |
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VeryConfused (725 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 10:30 AM Response to Reply #84 |
184. Do you work for the GOP? what kind of question/accusation was that? |
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WorseBeforeBetter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 04:27 PM Response to Reply #17 |
85. Why is it that big, bad libruls are expected to do all the heavy lifting... |
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VeryConfused (725 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 10:31 AM Response to Reply #85 |
185. Forget heavy lifting, how about just not helping the GOP |
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WorseBeforeBetter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 10:47 AM Response to Reply #185 |
192. A Democratic president is embracing Republican policies... |
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VeryConfused (725 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 10:48 AM Response to Reply #192 |
193. The President wants to raise taxes on the wealthy |
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WorseBeforeBetter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 10:52 AM Response to Reply #193 |
194. He talks a good game. |
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VeryConfused (725 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 10:56 AM Response to Reply #194 |
195. You talk a good game |
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WorseBeforeBetter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 11:01 AM Response to Reply #195 |
196. Endless wars, widening gap between rich and poor, |
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VeryConfused (725 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 11:18 AM Response to Reply #196 |
199. On second thought you don't talk a good game |
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WorseBeforeBetter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 02:03 PM Response to Reply #199 |
221. "An arbitrary cruelty." |
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lark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 11:34 AM Response to Reply #193 |
201. You know this how? |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 12:41 PM Response to Reply #85 |
234. Heh heh, the Sensibles in the Sensible Center, as the DLC called itself |
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BuelahWitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 09:51 PM Response to Reply #17 |
122. Why don't YOU call out the GOP? |
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VeryConfused (725 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 10:31 AM Response to Reply #122 |
186. I call out the GOP all the time |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 11:05 PM Response to Reply #17 |
129. You arent just confused. You are trying to start a liberal vs. whatever the hell you are, fight. nm |
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dameocrat67 (442 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 11:33 PM Response to Reply #17 |
133. What makes you assume that a socalled dem that picks |
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lark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 11:35 AM Response to Reply #133 |
203. Everything he's done since then |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 01:03 AM Response to Reply #17 |
142. You want our votes? |
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chervilant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 02:53 AM Response to Reply #17 |
148. hmm... |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 05:30 AM Response to Reply #17 |
159. You are "very confused".............. |
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iamthebandfanman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 09:47 AM Response to Reply #17 |
178. so you do believe the election was stolen, |
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VeryConfused (725 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 10:32 AM Response to Reply #178 |
187. If the Nader voters had voted for Gore, Bush would have |
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BlueJac (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 12:21 PM Response to Reply #17 |
212. I disagree with you......... |
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FiveGoodMen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 12:41 PM Response to Reply #17 |
215. Your name is appropriate |
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kenfrequed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 01:52 PM Response to Reply #17 |
220. BS argument |
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Hawaii Hiker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:18 PM Response to Reply #13 |
126. And Obama has nominated pretty much all moderates to the courts, ZERO liberals |
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MNBrewer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 01:47 PM Response to Reply #8 |
47. What difference would that even make? |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:32 PM Response to Reply #8 |
127. If you read Du for any length of time you would know that MF is about issues |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 12:50 AM Response to Reply #8 |
136. The Republican base is seniors and not all of them are rich. |
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WillYourVoteBCounted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 12:51 AM Response to Reply #8 |
137. Cracked Mag on Why is gay marriage such an important issue right now?" |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 05:29 AM Response to Reply #8 |
158. LOL |
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AlabamaLibrul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 05:37 AM Response to Reply #8 |
161. "The poor get health insurance" lol n/t |
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Dept of Beer (957 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 09:26 AM Response to Reply #8 |
176. Yes, make sure he/she signs the party loyalty papers. |
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Bobbie Jo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 02:09 PM Response to Reply #4 |
56. Dems controlling "all 3 branches?" |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 02:17 PM Response to Reply #56 |
59. We did. Obama had the House and the Senate of his own party for two years. |
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Guy Whitey Corngood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 02:37 PM Response to Reply #59 |
62. Actually they controlled the legislative and executive. The 3rd branch would be the judicial. I know |
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Bobbie Jo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 02:38 PM Response to Reply #59 |
63. Just to clarify.... |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 12:52 AM Response to Reply #59 |
138. And they did not change the tax code. |
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butterfly77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 02:35 PM Response to Reply #4 |
61. Don't you mean.. |
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julian09 (418 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 07:37 PM Response to Reply #4 |
112. Control of the senate was held by the minority republicans |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 12:57 AM Response to Reply #112 |
139. If they had felt voter pressure, the Demconservatives would |
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MadMaddie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 09:09 PM Response to Reply #4 |
116. We all know that Blue Dog Dems sabotaged the Senate |
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kickysnana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 12:56 PM Response to Reply #2 |
9. Your name is very appropriate. welcome to DU. |
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VeryConfused (725 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 12:58 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. I don't accept that excuse. The GOP is doing horrible things yet |
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Dappleganger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 01:13 PM Response to Reply #12 |
27. You believe the GOP is given a free pass on DU? |
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VeryConfused (725 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 01:15 PM Response to Reply #27 |
32. Maybe you should check out the greatest page once in awhile |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 01:17 PM Response to Reply #32 |
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Nay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 05:44 AM Response to Reply #32 |
162. Are you on crack? |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 03:23 PM Response to Reply #12 |
68. you are more than very confused. |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 11:07 PM Response to Reply #12 |
130. So do you hate liberals or all of DU? Make up your mind. nm |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 01:02 AM Response to Reply #12 |
141. Very Confused, you have only been here for a few months. |
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chervilant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 03:05 AM Response to Reply #12 |
149. OIC... |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 05:36 AM Response to Reply #12 |
160. A free pass? |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 12:56 PM Response to Reply #2 |
10. I think you overstate the significance of a poster on DU. |
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VeryConfused (725 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 12:59 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. Yes it is very helpful to them. It's certainly welcome news to them |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 01:05 PM Response to Reply #14 |
20. Criticizing bad policy is not "tearing down elected Democrats". |
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VeryConfused (725 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 01:06 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. How is it not tearing them down? |
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Dappleganger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 01:12 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. You are indeed, very confused. |
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VeryConfused (725 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 01:12 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. Yes by liberals tearing down Democrats |
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Dappleganger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 01:14 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. Democrats who are pushing republican agendas. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 01:16 PM Response to Reply #29 |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 01:34 PM Response to Reply #21 |
44. Madfloridian criticizes bad policy from the left, from the position |
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VeryConfused (725 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 01:42 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. Exactly what part of the speech was bad policy? |
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lark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 11:46 AM Response to Reply #46 |
205. Proving you agree with Repug policies & talking points |
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plantwomyn (779 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 12:14 PM Response to Reply #46 |
211. The part about including Social Security. |
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Dappleganger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 01:11 PM Response to Reply #14 |
23. The only democrats she is criticizing are those who are tearing down long-held democratic |
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VeryConfused (725 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 01:13 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. That's not the case. It does make a nice sounding excuse though |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 01:15 PM Response to Reply #26 |
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dana_b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 01:25 PM Response to Reply #35 |
41. maybe someday you will be as upset |
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VeryConfused (725 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 01:30 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. Maybe someday when the Dems are actually worse than the GOP |
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Flubadubya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 01:56 PM Response to Reply #42 |
51. I've got one right here in my district who is worse... |
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Fuddnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 04:16 PM Response to Reply #51 |
82. And we've got a Democratic Senator in Florida, who's indistinguisable from a Repuke. |
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Art_from_Ark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 09:48 PM Response to Reply #51 |
121. I've noticed that Mike Ross often votes with the R's |
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Hand_With_Eyes (197 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 07:57 AM Response to Reply #42 |
172. When Democrats frogmarch rightward, they are worse than the GOP |
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SusanaMontana41 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 09:26 PM Response to Reply #42 |
227. Ben Nelson in Nebraska is the epitome of a DINO. n/t |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 01:15 PM Response to Reply #26 |
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BulletproofLandshark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 06:45 PM Response to Reply #14 |
110. Nobody forgot a goddamned thing! |
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lark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 11:43 AM Response to Reply #14 |
204. WTF? |
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Aerows (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 12:57 PM Response to Reply #2 |
11. No one expects better from the GOP |
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VeryConfused (725 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 01:00 PM Response to Reply #11 |
15. Lip service isn't any better |
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ljm2002 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 03:59 PM Response to Reply #15 |
75. So what's stopping you... |
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Fuddnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 04:19 PM Response to Reply #15 |
83. Sometimes we focus on the enablers who are taking over our party. |
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chervilant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 03:11 AM Response to Reply #15 |
151. Well, now, |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 01:00 PM Response to Reply #2 |
16. all the raw partisanship is part of our problem in this country.... |
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VeryConfused (725 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 01:02 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. I think the problem is the ideologues on both sides |
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Hand_With_Eyes (197 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 07:58 AM Response to Reply #19 |
173. What is the Democratic ideology |
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Dappleganger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 01:09 PM Response to Reply #2 |
22. They are everywhere--just read her journal. |
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VeryConfused (725 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 01:14 PM Response to Reply #22 |
28. I judge things on cold hard facts |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 01:19 PM Response to Reply #28 |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 03:31 PM Response to Reply #28 |
72. the cold hard facts are that you know very little about d.u. |
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chervilant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 11:50 PM Response to Reply #72 |
228. And, |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 02:00 PM Response to Reply #2 |
52. The GOP is and always has been the enemy of SS. That |
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Fuddnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 04:08 PM Response to Reply #2 |
78. You are very confused, aren't you? |
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Logical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 06:26 PM Response to Reply #2 |
105. So you are saying Obama = GOP? |
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Mimosa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 06:37 PM Response to Reply #2 |
109. We ALL hold the GOP accountable. So why collaborate with them? |
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pam4water (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 11:47 PM Response to Reply #2 |
135. It wasn't the Republicans calling Social Security a sacred cow. Obama is supposed to be defeining |
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chervilant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 02:51 AM Response to Reply #2 |
147. hmm... |
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pecwae (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 10:47 AM Response to Reply #2 |
191. Why not start your own thread |
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pam4water (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 11:48 AM Response to Reply #191 |
206. Great point. I'm sick of all the "More Democrat than thou" BS around here. |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 12:43 PM Response to Reply #2 |
216. Buy a star and do your own search. There's no excuse for sloth. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 12:53 PM Response to Original message |
3. Do you have a quote on the specifics surrounding SS and Medicare? |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 12:54 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Look up the transcript mzmolly. It will be up soon. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 01:01 PM Response to Reply #5 |
18. Will do. |
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pscot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 12:55 PM Response to Original message |
6. Politicians need to sign a pledge |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 12:55 PM Response to Original message |
7. Trusting politicians is akin to trusting guys selling Rolex's in alleys. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 01:17 PM Response to Reply #7 |
36. I agree.. |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 01:23 PM Response to Reply #36 |
40. In a democracy we aren't supposed to "trust" the people we hire to do a job. |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 01:32 PM Response to Original message |
43. I'm certainly not going to take the word of a blogger over my |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 01:49 PM Response to Reply #43 |
49. ? The blogger I quoted was years ago. |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 02:31 PM Response to Reply #49 |
60. I don't believe that and I hope he can extend payroll tax cuts. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 02:57 PM Response to Reply #60 |
64. I'm sorry. I am no good at all with talking points. Bottom line: |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 03:10 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. Mad, those are not "talking points." I'm repeating exactly |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 03:20 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. How have you redefined "trim benefits"? |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 03:24 PM Response to Reply #66 |
69. You heard something I didn't hear and I've listened to the |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 03:23 PM Response to Reply #65 |
67. Of course it is sustainable. We really disagree on that. |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 03:27 PM Response to Reply #67 |
70. All baby boomers have known for years ss was going to be |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 04:28 PM Response to Reply #70 |
86. That is exactly why I included the 1994 stuff on Cowan. |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 04:32 PM Response to Reply #86 |
88. Mad, WE won't be affected. The boomers WILL get theirs!! |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 05:09 PM Response to Reply #88 |
90. Read this NPR article. He is already endangering us and the future boomers. |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 05:26 PM Response to Reply #90 |
91. You mean those from 1960-64. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 05:43 PM Response to Reply #91 |
94. Not what I heard. |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 05:47 PM Response to Reply #94 |
97. That's certainly good news for us. By 2036 I'll either be gone |
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roxiejules (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 09:24 PM Response to Reply #91 |
118. SS does not run OUT of money,,, |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 11:15 AM Response to Reply #118 |
197. 77% is what is predicted. n/t |
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chervilant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-13-11 12:05 AM Response to Reply #118 |
231. Disaster Capitalism |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 01:15 AM Response to Reply #91 |
145. They will not run out of money if they tax all income and end |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 06:00 AM Response to Reply #91 |
166. It is sustainable. |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 10:20 AM Response to Reply #166 |
180. Not when Washington keeps investing trust fund money and |
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bread_and_roses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 06:51 AM Response to Reply #91 |
169. what nonsense. There ARE alternatives to raising age of eligibility - |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 11:20 AM Response to Reply #169 |
200. It may be blah blah but it's a fact of life. Few people can afford |
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bread_and_roses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 12:33 PM Response to Reply #200 |
214. False choice. We don't need to do either. |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 01:02 PM Response to Reply #214 |
217. I said, "few people can afford to live on ss alone." Retirement |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 01:14 AM Response to Reply #88 |
144. Our children and grandchildren are going to be more worried |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 01:12 AM Response to Reply #70 |
143. The generational bump has been known for years and was dealt |
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chervilant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 03:18 AM Response to Reply #70 |
152. hmph! |
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chervilant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 03:24 AM Response to Reply #70 |
153. Hmph! |
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chervilant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 03:39 AM Response to Reply #70 |
155. So, |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 05:57 AM Response to Reply #70 |
165. Why do you take a Republican position on SS? |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 11:57 AM Response to Reply #165 |
208. Now you know on a message board nobody cares how |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 05:51 AM Response to Reply #65 |
163. You couldn't be more incorrect |
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chervilant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 11:57 PM Response to Reply #65 |
229. Sigh... |
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chervilant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-13-11 12:14 AM Response to Reply #64 |
232. Here's a great resource |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 05:55 AM Response to Reply #60 |
164. Extending payroll tax cuts |
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chervilant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-13-11 01:10 AM Response to Reply #164 |
233. Won't be voting, |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 01:48 PM Response to Original message |
48. Deleted message |
Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 01:55 PM Response to Original message |
50. Great work Mad, Thanks |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 02:14 PM Response to Reply #50 |
58. Thank you, Tom. |
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jtown1123 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 02:01 PM Response to Original message |
53. Very well done. Articulates pretty much everything I'm feeling right now. |
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dissidentboomer (321 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 02:06 PM Response to Original message |
54. Nice post. I'm done with both parties. They are BOTH BOUGHT AND PAID FOR. |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 05:32 PM Response to Reply #54 |
92. I agree completely. nt |
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woo me with science (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 02:07 PM Response to Original message |
55. Great post. K&R nt |
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Starry Messenger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 02:13 PM Response to Original message |
57. recommend. |
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tnlefty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 03:28 PM Response to Original message |
71. I wish that I could understand all of this, but I don't. |
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DemocracyInaction (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 03:32 PM Response to Original message |
73. Bravo---your point about what they are putting the elderly through |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 05:44 PM Response to Reply #73 |
95. I don't they have a clue about the stress, and I don't think they care. |
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chervilant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 11:50 AM Response to Reply #73 |
207. Well, now... |
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Blue_In_AK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 03:58 PM Response to Original message |
74. Right on, Mad Flo |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 04:32 PM Response to Reply #74 |
87. I love your Northern Vision pictures. I look at them often. |
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Blue_In_AK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 04:46 PM Response to Reply #87 |
89. Oh, thank you so much. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 07:47 PM Response to Reply #89 |
226. I will do that. |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 04:10 PM Response to Original message |
80. Been politial since I was 13 and Ronald Wilson Reagan was in office. |
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Jefferson23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 04:15 PM Response to Original message |
81. I believe it is important to understand that this proposal is Obama's idea. He did not need to make |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 05:43 PM Response to Reply #81 |
93. Which proposal? n/t |
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Jefferson23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 05:56 PM Response to Reply #93 |
99. Social Security. |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 06:05 PM Response to Reply #99 |
101. He could kick the can down the road but like I've said, |
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Jefferson23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 06:10 PM Response to Reply #101 |
103. The concern is that he is even suggesting it. It is a bad and unnecessary idea. n/t |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 06:33 PM Response to Reply #103 |
106. It's not unnecessay. Due to the boomer generation it is not |
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Jefferson23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 06:53 PM Response to Reply #106 |
111. Top 5 Social Security Myths |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 01:25 AM Response to Reply #106 |
146. You are utterly wrong. |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 06:12 AM Response to Reply #106 |
167. Why do you keep repeating a Republican lie? |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 10:41 AM Response to Reply #167 |
189. It would be sustainable if the fed would stop investing these |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 05:47 PM Response to Original message |
96. Setting a new record... |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 05:49 PM Response to Reply #96 |
98. Cause it's not true, yet. n/t |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 09:09 PM Response to Reply #98 |
117. Yes, it is quite true. |
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roxiejules (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 11:19 PM Response to Reply #117 |
131. NYT: Barack Obama wants a right-leaning deficit deal |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 11:17 AM Response to Reply #131 |
198. Thanks for the article. |
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chervilant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 12:01 PM Response to Reply #117 |
209. Looks like |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 02:07 PM Response to Reply #209 |
222. I just don't have knee-jerk reactions. n/t |
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chervilant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 02:09 PM Response to Reply #222 |
224. Bwahahaha! |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 02:19 PM Response to Reply #224 |
225. I know what you mean. n/t |
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Jefferson23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 06:07 PM Response to Reply #96 |
102. It is similar to Obama's education policy approach, damage the unions by vilifying the teachers. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 06:17 PM Response to Reply #102 |
104. Yes, it is. |
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Jefferson23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 06:35 PM Response to Reply #104 |
108. I read your journal on education mads for the details and I along with |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 06:01 PM Response to Original message |
100. Good, sad post, |
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Dystopian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 08:19 PM Response to Original message |
113. KandR |
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pmorlan1 (763 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 08:44 PM Response to Original message |
114. Excellent Post |
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Samantha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 08:59 PM Response to Original message |
115. These guys say provocative things to get the spotlight on themselves |
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Blecht (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 09:29 PM Response to Original message |
119. This is when paying attention really sucks |
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chervilant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 03:43 AM Response to Reply #119 |
156. NO DUH!!! |
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TacticalPeek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 09:47 PM Response to Original message |
120. This. |
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Major Hogwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:02 PM Response to Original message |
123. The entire agenda of FDR is for sale on Obama's table. Whatcha' got? |
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tcaudilllg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:09 PM Response to Original message |
124. It is quite clear from this post that Mr. Cowan is to be hated deeply and intensely. |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:15 PM Response to Original message |
125. REC. The Democrat leaders know EXACTLY what they are doing. They are doing |
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saras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:35 PM Response to Original message |
128. Is a blue dog worse than a Republican? Is a traitor worse than an enemy combatant? |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 11:23 PM Response to Original message |
132. The President |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 11:47 PM Response to Reply #132 |
134. Sounds like he tossed it in for good measure. |
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rosesaylavee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 07:49 AM Response to Reply #134 |
170. I looked at this speech in light of who he was talking to... |
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chervilant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 03:49 AM Response to Reply #132 |
157. hmm... |
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midnight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 12:58 AM Response to Original message |
140. "There is no excuse for the stress our own party is putting on seniors by including benefit cuts in |
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inna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 03:11 AM Response to Original message |
150. K&R - and *huge* appreciation and respect for your efforts |
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fasttense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 03:36 AM Response to Original message |
154. Vote for Obama cause he wont cut your meager Social Security and health care as much as a RepubliCON |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 10:19 AM Response to Reply #154 |
179. Yes, Obama's politics of hope have proven themselves a sham. |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 06:13 AM Response to Original message |
168. "Greedy Geezers" demanding that they get paid back for 40 years |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 10:22 AM Response to Reply #168 |
181. You think THAT'S unfair? What about those who died before |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 11:34 AM Response to Reply #181 |
202. That was part of the agreement. |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 12:07 PM Response to Reply #202 |
210. Some had dependent children some didn't and those people |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 01:31 PM Response to Reply #210 |
218. SS is a pension that terminates on your death with limited survivor benefits |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 01:47 PM Response to Reply #218 |
219. Nobody said it was a "savings account" nor did I imply that it |
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OwnedByFerrets (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 07:54 AM Response to Original message |
171. great post |
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TransitJohn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 08:24 AM Response to Original message |
174. Wouldn't it be nice if elected Democrats |
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colsohlibgal (670 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 08:59 AM Response to Original message |
175. They count On An Easily Manipulated Population |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 09:35 AM Response to Reply #175 |
177. Trouble is there is no party in which people want Social Security messed with. |
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chervilant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-13-11 12:01 AM Response to Reply #175 |
230. Yeah, |
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Emelina (47 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 12:32 PM Response to Original message |
213. Pure psycopaths! |
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