"Republican Candidate" Extends Lead vs. Obama to 47% to 39%

[robcon]

Source: Gallup

"Registered voters by a significant margin now say they are more likely to vote for the "Republican Party's candidate for president" than for President Barack Obama in the 2012 election, 47% to 39%. Preferences had been fairly evenly divided this year in this test of Obama's re-election prospects."



Read more: http://www.gallup.com/poll/148487/Republican-Candidate-Extends-Lead-Obama.aspx

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I think this is an overreaction to Obama... in actuality, none of the actual Repug candidates have a chance against Obama, since none appeal to independents. They're all small people with small minds and narrow followings.

It's a repudiation of the president, however, as his negatives have spread out in the last two months.

[PoliticAverse]

1. And if the Republicans actually had a generic candidate to run...

they might be in good shape. Unfortunately for them they have their current crop...

[Evasporque]

34. ding ding ding...Fantasy Perfect Republican Wins!....lol

[Tesha]

2. If the Republicans are sane enough to nominate Romney, he will easily defeat Obama.

And Obama did most of the damage to himself.

Tesha

[Cereal Kyller]

3. Romney? HA!

Picture of the entire wingnut base staying home.

[robcon]

6. I believe Republicans will vote for the Republican candidate.

No basis to believe they won't. Like McCain, it may not be enthusiastic support by some Repubs (reduced contributions, for example) but I'm convinced they will vote for the Repub nominee.

[Cereal Kyller]

16. But haven't ya heard?

He's one o them Church of Cheese 'n Crackers of Labor Day Sales people! I can't see Hoosiers/Alabamans/West Virginians lining up.

[Tesha]

31. Not likely.

Here in New Hampshire, people who still have wingnut stickers from
the 2010 election are now seen sporting "Romney" bumper stickers.

If they think he can win, they'll vote for him in the NH Republican Primary
and if he wins the nomination, they'll *CERTAINLY* vote for him in the
General Election.

Tesha

[BlueCaliDem]

5. Mittens doesn't have a chance in hell against President Obama.

Mittens raised $12 million.

President Obama already broke all records, even his own, this moment in his campaign at $86 million.

Surely, you can NOT be serious? :rofl:

[FLAprogressive]

20. That amounts to nothing but happy talk. He has consistently polled the strongest of any of them

against Obama and to discount him is pure hubris.

[emulatorloo]

24. Romney made his millions by shuttering companies and firing workers.

That is his record as a businessman and "job creator"

He is running on his business " expertise." Once people begin to find out about his actual record, I am not so sure what his polling numbers will look like.

[FLAprogressive]

29. Low-info voters just see the word "CEO" and instantly get a boner. Look at Rick Scott. People didn't

look closely into his record, they just saw "OOOH HE RAN A BUSINESS" and voted for him. Low-info voters buy the GOP rhetoric that government should be run like a business because it sounds great on paper but it never, ever works.

[BlueCaliDem]

53. No. To give Mittens this much deference is pure hubris.

Polls-schmolls. Fact remains, polls can be accurate, but that's usually close to election day. Before that, and until then, it's just another genius marketing ploy by monied interests working to frame opinion in order to dis-or-encourage voters.

Because how do you explain 2008 Barack Obama constantly polling 20 points behind HRC? And yet he won one state after the other. Monied interests were hoping HRC won because she, according to their internal polling, could be easily beat by McTeaBagger.

This is the United States of America. It's always all about the money. Money is key to everything, thus with $86 million raised against Mittens' paltry $12 million - and he being the CONServatives' front-runner - it's clear Mittens is the one corporations are touting heavily in the hope we'll be gullible enough to believe he has a snowball's chance in hell against the president.

Always keep in mind: figures don't lie. Liars figure.

[Tesha]

33. And the Calendar Boy couldn't beat Coakley.

Until he did.

Surprise!

Tesha

[Ikonoklast]

41. Coakley ran a shitty campaign.

Brown was all in, Coakley thought it was a walk until too late.

[Tesha]

42. "Coakley thought it was a walk until too late."

My point exactly.

An awful lot of people here think Obama will win in a walk.

An awful lot of people also thought we'd win in 2010.

And Coakley was sure she'd win.

But she didn't.

Tesha

[Ikonoklast]

48. Mr. Obama will not run a shitty campaign.

Nor do I think he believes that anything is guaranteed, and will run his campaign accordingly.

[BlueCaliDem]

54. And Obama is just like Coakley.

:rofl:

You need to try harder, Tesha.

[Joe Bacon]

8. Romney will NOT be nominated.

Romney will get slaughtered in Jesus Land. Right now, I really believe that Bachman is going to be the nominee!

[Tesha]

35. After Romney wins Iowa and New Hampshire (NH by a landslide), ...

...Jesusland will see the writing in the temple walk and
fall in line behind a candidate who can defeat their arch
enemy.

Tesha

[Demeter]

18. If only by default

A case of the Democratic voter staying home and taking her vote with her....in disgust and despair.

[emulatorloo]

23. Read about Romney's record as a "successful businessman"

And get back to us.

[Tesha]

37. Important clue, missed by *MANY* Democrats:

*IT DOESN'T MATTER* what you and I have read about Romney.

What will matter is what the great unwashed know about him and
they will only know what Faux News and a billion or more dollars
in Republican ads have told them: in other words, they won't know
squat that's true but they'll know he's one Helluva guy!

Tesha

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[Tesha]

38. If all you have on your side are personal attacks against me, you've already lost. (NT)

[joeybee12]

45. I think you're right...and this administration is praying for Bachmann...nt

[nevergiveup]

4. We are in day to day economic chaos.

No president would be getting good numbers under the present circumstances.

[BlueCaliDem]

7. And let's not forget it's pro-Republican Gallup.

They only get it right sometimes...like just before the election. But that's only to keep a semblance of credibility as a pollster.

[robcon]

9. I think that's nonsense, BlueCalDem.

Gallup is a very reliable pollster.

[ellenfl]

11. you forgot the sarcasm emotie . . . eom

[FreakinDJ]

10. How are they so "Out of Touch" with all the other polling

"If the 2012 election for president were being held today, and the candidates were Barack Obama the Democrat and the Republican, for whom would you vote?"

Barack Obama 47% Mitt Romney 41%



http://www.pollingreport.com/wh12gen.htm

[robcon]

14. Pretty dismal example, FreakinDJ. Gallup asked a VERY DIFFERENT question.

And they got a very different answer.

I believe every Republican candidate would lose handily to Obama. But "Republican Candidate" in the abstract, is ahead of Obama at this point.

If the Repugs had any candidate with broad appeal, Obama would be sunk (at least at this time.) But they don't, and as the OP states, Obama will win easily.

[FreakinDJ]

17. Check out the link I posted - many different polls all showing

the same thing with the exception of 2

and YES they asked the question correctly and Obama still shows a strong lead

"If President Obama runs for reelection in the year 2012, do you think you will probably vote for President Obama or probably vote for the Republican candidate?"

Obama 45%

Republican 40%

NBC News/Wall Street Journal Poll conducted by the polling organizations of Peter Hart (D) and Bill McInturff (R). June 9-13, 2011. N=1,000 adults nationwide. Results below are among registered voters, except where indicated.

[Tesha]

39. Remember, the Presidential election is actually 50+ separate elections, won or lost individually.

In New Hampshire Romney is starting to out-poll Obama (and we were
part of Obama's winning coalition in 2008).

Tesha

[w4rma]

12. It happened right after he said he's comprimise on Social Security and Medicare. (nt)

[still_one]

21. If that is the case, which one of those idiots who said they would vote for a generic repuke over

Obama believes that repukes will save social security and medicare, when the entire platform of the repug party is for the destruction of both programs.

WI appears to be having buyers remorse from the midterm election as the repukes they nominated are doing exactly what they said they would, destroy labor

Florida retirees and others are having buyers remorse from the midterm elections, as they hear republicans talk about privatizing social security and medicare, and rejecting millions in revenue and job creation, by rejecting the high speed rail

Same with New Jersey and other states

There is a huge disconnect between reality and what is happening I guess

[w4rma]

52. Obama nullifed the issues that folks were voting for him on, so they chose other issues to vote on.

And one of those issues is likely how much they can trust his campaign promises after getting burnt.

[emulatorloo]

26. "Generic Republican" has a stellar reputation of protecting SS and Medicare, right?

[madrchsod]

13. gallup is as reliable as fox news

[robcon]

15. Gallup is the most reliable pollster, IMO.

n/t

[beac]

19. And I'm sure they'd prefer a unicorn over Obama too.

As long as people can "vote" for the magical, perfect, IMAGINARY candidate of their choice, some will certainly choose to do so. When the ultimate victor of the GOP Biggest Loser contest emerges, I think he/she is going to come up a little short against that oh-so-dreamy "Republican Candidate."

[emulatorloo]

27. Expressed perfectly n/t

[Kingofalldems]

22. Unrec for constant flow of negativity about Democrats

[still_one]

25. I could understand how they would not want any candidate, but after all the country has been through

mostly caused by the repukes, and to still say they would vote for a generic republican only reflects the disconnect and stupidity of those that took part in the poll

[kctim]

28. Cuts to the core

"in actuality, none of the actual Repug candidates have a chance against Obama, since none appeal to independents"

Add the independent votes and he wins.

Add the far-left votes, who say 'Other' right now, and he wins in a small landslide.

Good observations robcon.

[Evasporque]

32. So a fantasy "generic" Republican is the GOP's best candidate....

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.......

[gkhouston]

36. This poll is good

for filling column inches. Otherwise it's meaningless. Until "Republican candidate" has an actual name, these polls are article fodder but not actual news, IMO.

OTOH, if Colbert has just changed his name to "Republican candidate", then the President's in deep shit. :P

[McCamy Taylor]

40. Meaning if the Republicans select someone about whom the public has no feelings one way or the other

then that candidate will win. That is where "Hello, I'm Rick Perry. You've probably never heard of me, but I am the governor of Texas" comes in. His only negative is "Texas" as in Bush---and the MSM is playing along with the fiction that Texas has evaded the recession.

[backscatter712]

43. This poll doesn't mean much. What is a "Republican candidate"?

The independents in their minds may have an idealized idea of a Republican candidate that's sane, smart, and won't sell the country to the highest bidder.

:rofl:

Now take a look at the real Republican candidates - Romney, Bachmann, Palin, Perry, Huntsman, etc. You see them being remotely similar to that imaginary idealized GOP candidate that the independents have in mind? No.

[NNN0LHI]

50. Daddy figure

[lifesbeautifulmagic]

44. if Americans are stupid enough to elect a repub prez

and continue with a repub house, and a weak dem senate, they will deserve the misery they will bring onto themselves.

It breaks my heart that the rest of us will suffer too. Goodbye SS, medicare and hello to the most extreme supreme court in the history, not of the US, but of the world. hello to war as an income generating venture.

[ChiciB1]

46. I Can't Say I Go With Polls All the Time, BUT I Will Say That I KNOW Many

people who DO NOT want to vote for Obama again. My daughter & her husband have both told me they WILL NOT vote for him again, even though they were the ones that got me to campaign for him the last time. We did a LOT of campaigning too.

I have tried to tell them that by not voting it will be worse, but for right now they aren't budging. They are THAT upset with him, as is their 20 year old son! Unfortunately he has turned off a LOT of good Democrats. I have decided I have no choice at this point in time, but I do wish I had another option.

Right now any Repuke is worse than him, but I would LOVE to have Democratic nominee that I didn't think was so compromising and right leaning. Color me very disappointed.

[Zorra]

47. From the posted article: " the results more than a year ahead of the election do not

have a large degree of predictive ability"

That's nice to know, but nevertheless, Prez Obama really needs to hear and totally get this:

Dear Mr. President:

"Given the choice between a Republican and someone who acts like a Republican, people will vote for the real Republican all the time"
- Harry S. Truman

[Rex]

49. And we can automatically take 30 points off that number when

we have a GOP actual. :rofl:

[MilesColtrane]

51. He still destroys all of their candidates, but Romney...who he edges.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/president_obama_vs_republican_candidates.html