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somone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 10:19 AM
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Why is a Democratic president talking like a Republican about "saving" Social Security and Medicare?
He should be talking about defense spending.

He should be talking about tax cuts for the rich.

He should be talking about JOBS.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 10:20 AM
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1. He is.
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spedtr90 Donating Member (459 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 10:22 AM
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2. That's great, but he is the one who is insisting on including entitlements
Edited on Fri Jul-15-11 10:24 AM by spedtr90
in the debt ceiling talks. They should not be.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 10:46 AM
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14. That's what I heard coming from him. He was also eluding to it as an idealogical
sticking point.
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 10:23 AM
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3. "I want to cut defense spending"
I heard that, just now.

Also that 80% of the people support revenue side solutions along with cuts (meaning tax increases).

And he told Chuck Todd to shut the fuck up (with his eyes).

:P
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 10:29 AM
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7. good, I can't stand that pud
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 10:34 AM
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10. then he said he can't cut it because of the 2 wars, 3 sir, I mean 3 wars
So excuse Chuck Todd if he's as lost as me listening to this.
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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 10:24 AM
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4. because he CAN, without being blamed, criticized, or voted against by a large sector of the pop.
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jtown1123 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 10:25 AM
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5. Agreed.
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 10:28 AM
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6. The pain
So all the GOP would actually lose would be tax beaks Bush put in when the breaks were already too high for the health of anything.

Dems would sacrifice something from the social nets, the wars and banking nonsense would continue, etc. etc. and even the left here at DU would breathe a sigh of relief of having a) escaped economic Armageddon once again b)that the bleeding of the dying commons was not as bad as one feared and some incremental reform was actually accomplished.

The Dems would go back to beefing up the GOP as worthy and respectable rivals so that they would not get any power to wean them away from token incrementalism and sustaining the murderous injustice of our basic money corruption.

The business would go back to raping America. It's cronies in Congress would grow larger as it is set to do with the Niagara of corporate money eventually getting its way to a more honest total power. People would bleed and die by the millions as untended natural disasters multiply from global warming and dead ended, open ended oil wars.

The momentary crisis of default will pale before the new crises gathering in strength from responsibility deferred.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 10:29 AM
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8. Unrec because you're obviously not listening to what he's saying
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 10:33 AM
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9. He's all over the place today, I'm lost.
He likes cuts to domestic spending and keeping those wars.

He just said we fought two wars, like some how they are over? Then says we are fighting one, winding down another. Libya isn't a war so he has to pretend it doesn't exist :)

Can he stop talking about the cat food commission and how the American people L O V E it. Wait he just said Americans are mad because people don't understand it and are unhappy about it. He than says he's for it then says he isn't for any parts of it like cutting medicare, cutting social security etc... My head explodes. I don't understand what the * he's talking about. He's all over the place. Americans love it, hate it, he embraces domestic cuts of the Simpson debt talks are in then says won't do things clearly supported by it... where are we man? Only thing I get is he supports conservative ideas but conservatives don't support them. He said it enough.

Oh boy he is going to put Americans back to work with free trade deals. 3 of them! Wait he just said the hold up is job assistance for people displaced. Why would people be displaced if it created jobs. Err...
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whatchamacallit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 10:55 AM
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19. Only caught the end, and yeah, he was all over the map.
Perpetual disappointment...
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CrossChris Donating Member (641 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 11:25 AM
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21. Just follow the triangle.
That's the path I believe he was following.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 10:40 AM
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11. If you would not have jumped the gun to criticize, you would have
Edited on Fri Jul-15-11 10:41 AM by Kahuna
heard him address every one of those issues. :eyes:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 10:44 AM
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 10:47 AM
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16. He isn't even bothering with playing one on tv anymore either.
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slay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 10:44 AM
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13. I just posted a reply saying the same thing in GD:P
for all the good it will do over there. :eyes:
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 10:46 AM
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15. I distinctly heard him talk about those things
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 10:50 AM
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17. Wow a fact-free OP.
You should be listening because obviously you're not.

"Why is a Democratic president talking like a Republican about "saving" Social Security and Medicare?"

Republicans always talk about "saving" Social Security? Don't you mean "destroying"?

Do Republicans always talk about this?

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 12:12 PM
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 12:15 PM
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25. LOL
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 10:55 AM
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18. He did. n/t
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 11:28 AM
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22. Because "saving" SS and Medicare is like "saving" Iraq, Afghaistan, Libya, Somalia.
Or, that village that needed "saving" in Vietnam.
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 12:04 PM
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23. Because that's the Republican agenda. Which apparently is the priority.
His appointment of the deficit commission guaranteed it would dominate it.
That genie's never going back in the bottle.

It didn't matter that hundreds of sane economists everywhere said jobs, not deficits. Jobs will have to wait until forever. Millions more will have to lose their homes and continue watch their meager savings, if any left, continue to be gutted.
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