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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 11:26 AM Original message |
First it starts with raising SS age to 67... |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 11:27 AM Response to Original message |
1. indeed. nt |
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SharonAnn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-16-11 09:23 AM Response to Reply #1 |
88. Should be PAST tense. "It started in 1983 with raising SS age to 67." |
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PoliticAverse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 11:28 AM Response to Original message |
2. The SS retirement age was already raised in 1983. n/t |
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sinkingfeeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 11:31 AM Response to Reply #2 |
6. +1 |
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Divernan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 11:31 AM Response to Reply #2 |
8. Think OP meant to say Medicare coverage |
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BlueMTexpat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 11:52 AM Response to Reply #2 |
35. Yes, I was only able to receive full benefits when I turned 66 ... |
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Alameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-16-11 11:37 AM Response to Reply #35 |
92. It was raised 2 months for every year after 1937, until it go to 1943 |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 08:34 PM Response to Reply #2 |
71. Seems like a good enough starting point of a downward slide toward dismantling. |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 11:28 AM Response to Original message |
3. Yep. We are giving up what should be untouchable to the repukes. |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 11:29 AM Response to Original message |
4. I agree |
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A wise Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-16-11 07:44 AM Response to Reply #4 |
78. not necessary |
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kenny blankenship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 11:30 AM Response to Original message |
5. Jam the Third Rail up their ass! |
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bullwinkle428 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 11:31 AM Response to Original message |
7. End it with a whimper, rather than a bang, and perhaps the |
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Dappleganger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 11:31 AM Response to Original message |
9. Agreed, it is their foot in the door. |
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SnoopDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 11:32 AM Response to Original message |
10. They don't want to pay us OUR money - instead they want to give it... |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 11:33 AM Response to Reply #10 |
14. Big Insurance. |
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CleanGreenFuture (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 11:32 AM Response to Original message |
11. Yup, chip, chip, chip until we're dead before we can benefit from it. |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 11:32 AM Response to Original message |
12. The age for full SS was raised a long, long time ago. |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 11:38 AM Response to Reply #12 |
18. It was bad then and it's worse now... |
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bahrbearian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 12:09 PM Response to Reply #18 |
44. He is not just suggesting it ,he is pushing it. |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 03:31 PM Response to Reply #44 |
52. Oh I know... |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 07:49 PM Response to Reply #52 |
67. Plus people here are applauding statement that the price |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-16-11 07:44 AM Response to Reply #44 |
79. Yes he is. |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 11:33 AM Response to Original message |
13. 100% agreement. |
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JackDragna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 11:33 AM Response to Original message |
15. You got it. |
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global1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 11:35 AM Response to Original message |
16. Trying To Be Reasonable About This - Let's Face It....... |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 11:38 AM Response to Reply #16 |
19. You can retire at 62 with a percentage of your benefits. Full |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 11:39 AM Response to Reply #16 |
20. You can still start drawing SS at age 62, but you'll receive a |
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former9thward (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 11:41 AM Response to Reply #16 |
22. Your are not accurate. |
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global1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 11:57 AM Response to Reply #22 |
37. I Don't See This As Being Used Against Us Or Working Til We Drop Dead..... |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 12:04 PM Response to Reply #37 |
41. Thank you, global1! You said it much better than I did, obviously. |
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former9thward (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 01:01 PM Response to Reply #37 |
50. If you wish to work as long as you can that is fine. |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-16-11 10:09 AM Response to Reply #22 |
89. So then wouldn't FDR approve of setting SS full benefits at somewhere in the late 70s? |
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roxiejules (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 12:22 PM Response to Reply #16 |
46. Older people today look younger because of |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 12:50 PM Response to Reply #46 |
49. Cosmetic procedures are expensive and people have been |
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roxiejules (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 03:28 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. It was the 60's |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 06:10 PM Response to Reply #51 |
63. Ok. But that's still not it. n/t |
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right2bfree (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-16-11 02:49 AM Response to Reply #49 |
76. Nonsense! Many people are on medications now, and they are overweight too, compared to the past. nt |
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WorseBeforeBetter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 08:16 PM Response to Reply #46 |
68. Hair dye was used in ancient times. |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-16-11 10:11 AM Response to Reply #46 |
90. Also they live longer and have access to better healthcare |
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Kermitt Gribble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 12:27 PM Response to Reply #16 |
48. Because 44 years in the workforce is not reasonable, right? |
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Yo_Mama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 03:45 PM Response to Reply #16 |
53. IT'S ALREADY 67!!!! |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 03:59 PM Response to Reply #16 |
58. Maybe among the affluent |
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right2bfree (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-16-11 02:42 AM Response to Reply #16 |
75. Nonsense. I have seen classmates who look and act like they are 10 years older then me. Genetics. nt |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-16-11 07:54 AM Response to Reply #16 |
80. Oh, yes! 65 is young now! |
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eilen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-16-11 07:57 AM Response to Reply #16 |
81. Not necessarily |
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emmadoggy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-16-11 01:02 PM Response to Reply #16 |
93. Maybe - but... |
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SharonAnn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-16-11 01:05 PM Response to Reply #16 |
94. No, full Social Security retirement used to be 65. 62 was always a lesser amount. |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 11:36 AM Response to Original message |
17. If we sit down and let it happen while watching them chip |
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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 11:39 AM Response to Original message |
21. I Want To Go The Other Way... Let People Start Taking Benefits At 55 |
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DURHAM D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 11:41 AM Response to Original message |
23. If you meant to say Medicare (instead of SS) - |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 11:44 AM Response to Reply #23 |
24. Of course it's simple, but honestly |
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DURHAM D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 11:45 AM Response to Reply #24 |
25. Raise what cap? |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 11:47 AM Response to Reply #25 |
26. On the contribution to SS. |
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DURHAM D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 11:48 AM Response to Reply #26 |
27. I am not discussing SS - I was discussing Medicare contributions. |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 11:50 AM Response to Reply #27 |
31. And my post was about SS. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 11:54 AM Response to Reply #31 |
36. Deleted message |
DURHAM D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 11:52 AM Response to Reply #26 |
34. I see you have edited to cover your mistake. nt |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 11:49 AM Response to Reply #24 |
29. Full retirement age for SS for some of us is already 67. n/t |
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DURHAM D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 11:59 AM Response to Reply #29 |
39. I guess it is time to be more specific regarding SS/Medicare. |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 12:02 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. 1950 is also 67. n/t |
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DURHAM D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 12:05 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. Yes - everyone 51 and younger is already at 67. nt |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 04:23 PM Response to Reply #29 |
60. and why the fuck isn't that enough? If you feel spry and marketable then work till you die |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 11:36 PM Response to Reply #60 |
74. And some of us are just getting tired of working |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-16-11 01:10 PM Response to Reply #74 |
95. No doubt! |
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Yo_Mama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 03:56 PM Response to Reply #23 |
57. The tax needs to be raised a percent to 3.9% |
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Zen Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 11:48 AM Response to Original message |
28. You can still retire at 62 and get an increasing benefit up to the full benefit age. |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 11:50 AM Response to Reply #28 |
32. So far, means testing was only suggested for medicare. n/t |
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DURHAM D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 12:17 PM Response to Reply #28 |
45. In the beginning early SS trailed by 3 years. |
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Yo_Mama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 03:53 PM Response to Reply #45 |
56. It would cost more |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-16-11 07:58 AM Response to Reply #45 |
83. That's my sister. Never work, married a millionaire and now, at 62, getting a SS check. |
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DURHAM D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-16-11 09:09 AM Response to Reply #83 |
87. Does it piss you off? nt |
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Yo_Mama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 03:47 PM Response to Reply #28 |
54. Wealthy retirees already pay more for Medicare |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-16-11 07:57 AM Response to Reply #54 |
82. 'More ' is a cute way to put it. How much more? Answer |
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jwirr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 11:49 AM Response to Original message |
30. What they will end up with on the raising the age is that the number |
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Yo_Mama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 03:49 PM Response to Reply #30 |
55. That's why they didn't raise early retirement that much |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 04:04 PM Response to Reply #30 |
59. yup. |
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guitar man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 11:51 AM Response to Original message |
33. It's stealing |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 12:06 PM Response to Reply #33 |
43. Go get em!! n/t |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-16-11 08:06 AM Response to Reply #33 |
85. It is stealing and they know it and don't give a rat's ass. |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 11:59 AM Response to Original message |
38. Been trying to warn of this for over ten years but no one wanted to hear it |
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moondust (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 12:24 PM Response to Original message |
47. That's right. |
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eilen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-16-11 08:05 AM Response to Reply #47 |
84. Let's them? It's his plan!!!! nt |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-16-11 08:27 AM Response to Reply #84 |
86. Yes it is and he needs to be called on it! 2012 my ass! And NO, I am NOT in! |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 04:24 PM Response to Original message |
61. No changes. |
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bananas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 04:25 PM Response to Original message |
62. k&r nt |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 06:12 PM Response to Original message |
64. No, I wouldn't find it that worrisome. |
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WorseBeforeBetter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 09:01 PM Response to Reply #64 |
73. "Tinker"... |
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myrna minx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 06:13 PM Response to Original message |
65. K&R n/t |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 06:44 PM Response to Original message |
66. Well, the sensible Centrists have always claimed that Obama... |
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kenny blankenship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 08:20 PM Response to Reply #66 |
69. Incrementalism explained: |
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MichiganVote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 08:29 PM Response to Original message |
70. K&R |
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sarcasmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 08:41 PM Response to Original message |
72. Working till you drop the American way. |
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Cereal Kyller (400 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-16-11 07:37 AM Response to Original message |
77. K |
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Cherchez la Femme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-16-11 11:15 AM Response to Original message |
91. Completely accurate, except |
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