Another cosmological oops, brought to you by the people who should know better.

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http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/00current.htm


Active galaxies (red crosses) in new study that disproves the proven theory
of galaxy mergers. Credit: CFHT/IAP/Terapix/CNRS/ESO


>>For many years, the only acceptable explanation of high galactic x-ray output accompanied by high redshift was mergers of galaxies. The universe became a bumper-car arena where every presumed high-energy event was proof of a collision.

Proof has just collided with disproof in a new study that examined 600 high-redshift active galaxies. A team of astronomers identified the active galaxies from observations with the XMM-Newton x-ray telescope.<<

snip:
“The team found that most active nuclei reside in galaxies with masses about 20 times larger than the value predicted by merger theory.” Viola Allevato, the lead author of the paper reporting the results, said, “They indicate that black holes are usually fed by processes within the galaxy itself..., as opposed to galaxy collisions.”

Oops.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

1. I tried to tell them.

But would they listen?

[HysteryDiagnosis]

3. But how did you present it to them?? Gently I hope with room for error on your part

so that they didn't feel too threatened.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

6. It was a gentle 5000-page treatise

with 3000 footnotes and 1000 graphs, plus a sample
of cosmic string with encoded examples of galaxy mergers
that were rejected by the universe. I left one small room
for error on my part that was the size of a broom closet.

[HysteryDiagnosis]

7. Well then these may apply to you personally....

“I am acutely aware of the fact that the marriage between mathematics and physics, which was so enormously fruitful in past centuries, has recently ended in divorce.” —Freeman Dyson

“Science is one thing, wisdom is another. Science is an edged tool, with which men play like children, and cut their own fingers.” —Sir Arthur Eddington

[some guy]

2. Yea science.

I don't really care how often they get things wrong, because they don't just stop and say done.

They keep pushing and exploring and sometimes stumble into better information and knowledge.

Completely the opposite of religion.

[HysteryDiagnosis]

4. They start with an answer such as, redshift equals recessional velocity and then create

the math to make it fit. Not bad work if you can get it.

[some guy]

8. Not really.

they start with an idea of an answer, and try to make the math fit. If it doesn't fit, they try something else.

[HysteryDiagnosis]

9. Actually, you are correct, they try to make the math fit and that seems

unreasonable.

[Mz Pip]

5. And they work on mulitple explanations

I've been watching the new season of Through the Wormhole on the Science Channel. It's really incredible what astro physicists are working on. Facinating stuff. I can't even come close to understanding most of it but really appreciate the different theories that are out there.

We will probably never fully understand the universe but that doesn't stop us from trying.