Liz Warren kicking ass on Rachel!!

[Ruby the Liberal]

Good grief - she is showing her moxy HUGE!!

Yes, she wanted the job. She lays the blame squarely at the feet of the Republicans doing everything they can think of to kill the agency - and said it is their fault that she would never be able to lead it. The agency is more important to her than the opportunity to lead it.

GOD I LOVE THIS WOMAN!!! :applause:

[aquart]

1. Yes, she was quite transcendantly beautiful.

Moral strength and courage is gorgeous.

[Ruby the Liberal]

3. The fire in her eyes just made her whole face light up.

There was such a defiance in her eyes that they simply sparkled.

I hope she does take that vacation with her grandkids and rest up. Something tells me she is just getting started.

[aquart]

6. Good lord, she's a grandmother????

It's time, Senator Warren.

[Ruby the Liberal]

8. Yeah - she wrote a couple of books with her daughter

about responsible personal finance. Her daughter lives out on the west coast with her DH and kids. Elizabeth said this afternoon that she is exhausted and just wants to take her grandkids to LEGOLAND.

:D

[JDPriestly]

43. President Warren.

She would make a far better president than any other potential contender.

[madokie]

46. I would like to see that in 2016

The glass ceiling is broken, Barack Obama shattered that. I don't know if that is the right phrase to use but the 235 year 'good old white boy' hold on our Presidency is no longer. The next step is to elect a woman to the office. I'd love to see Elizabeth Warren in the oval office. Can I go ahead and place my vote early, like now?

[Erose999]

49. Why wait?

[Doctor_J]

53. She seems to think too highly of the prez to primary him

I wouldn't mind her reclaiming Ted Kennedy's senate seat from Playgirl Scott. The rumor is that she's interested.

[madokie]

55. In a lot of ways that seat would be better for us in the long run

Well maybe not better as she's a very capable woman who dearly loves what America is supposed to do. The grand mother in her would make damn sure whatever we did would have our grand children in mind. That would pretty much fix our problems if the pol's would worry about the world they're leaving behind we wouldn't be in this mess.

[indepat]

70. Why indeed wait?

:patriot:

[JDPriestly]

65. Elizabeth Warren is 62.

She should run for the presidency in 2012 at age 63.

It would be good to have someone in the White House who has not been corrupted by years of collecting campaign contributions.

[madokie]

68. I'll vote for her in a heart beat if and when she runs

Not many people in the position to be a next president who has the everyday joes and janes closest to their heart than her. I'm not sure there is anyone that even comes close. Personally I'd like to see more women in our elected offices. Being a mother and/or grand mother does something to these girls that would be good for our country.

[Enthusiast]

73. She knows we want her as Senator.

I hope that makes her feel good. I would take her as president in 2012.

[somone]

2. Too bad she's not in the Oval Office

[Gold Metal Flake]

4. Not yet.

Give it time. She's going places.

[liberalla]

15. She would be a great President.

[FailureToCommunicate]

24. Obama/Warren 2012 ?

Interesting.

[Lorien]

66. Sanders/ Warren 2012. nt

[Fearless]

72. +100000

[Enthusiast]

74. Better.....nt

[Lugnut]

34. I'd vote for her in a minute.

:kick:

[WCGreen]

5. She's got balls that I wish the other people around Obama would...

She doesn't care about image or advancing in an administration, she is more about doing her job.

Too many other people are career government and a sycophantic in their approach, ON BOTH SIDE OF THE AISLE!!!!

[Raine]

7. Yeah it's alway the repugs fault, everything is.

:eyes: Democrats are always the victims of the evil doers. :shrug:

[Ruby the Liberal]

9. I take it you missed the segment.

She laid out all of the legislation and dirty tricks they were trying to kill the agency. As a party. Unified.

[immoderate]

22. I get it. Into each life...

--imm

[Volaris]

38. I think, maybe not so much victims of the evil doers, so much as too afraid of their

own power "...to do Great and Terrible things." Sometimes, defeating "evil doers", takes the WILL (as opposed to just the political SKILL) to inflict blunt-force trauma to their collective heads; its the only rebuke they understand. The Dems, I think, know all too well what that feels like, and maybe because of it have too much empathy for the wrong sets of people.

just my opinion, others are always welcome.

Peace,

[Marr]

54. Yeah-- why no recess appointment then?

Seems the blame spreads a bit beyond the official GOP itself.

[frylock]

76. because she didn't want the job..

at least that was the meme floating around here until warren made it clear that she DID want the job.

[LanternWaste]

62. I imagine it's easier for you to dismiss a claim...

I imagine it's more convenient for you to merely dismiss a claim rather than validly counter it... :shrug:

[Zenlitened]

10. She's got a fighting spirit that really inspires and connects with people.

I love the way she spells it all out so plainly.



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[Kind of Blue]

12. I love her!

:loveya: KnR!

[peace4ever]

13. ok, so what were those folks talking about who said she didn't want the job?

boy do they have a terrible track record for getting the facts straight.

:shakes-head:

[Ruby the Liberal]

14. Rachel asked her directly if she wanted it.

I paraphrased her response. The fire in her eyes when she was expressing what she has gone through trying to keep the Republican party at bay over this was stunning. You could tell that she really believes in this agency and is energized by the fight for it.

Video should be up on msnbc in a few hours if someone doesn't post it to YouTube first. I can't WAIT to watch it again.

[gateley]

16. Did she want the job that was just awarded to someone else? Or

was she referring to the job of setting up the agency (as she did)?

I'm one of the ones who was under the impression (NYT? Can't remember where I read it...) that she didn't want the full-time "real" gig, she really wanted to get back to teaching at Harvard.

Did I misread her (highly likely) or did she change her mind?

Thanks! Missed Rachel so I won't be able to watch until the wee hours when they replay it.

[Ruby the Liberal]

17. It was in context of the Cordray nomination. Rachel asked her

if she wanted that job. Her response was about the Republican obstructionism preventing her from being able to have it. She laid the blame 100% on them and their actions (which she enumerated).

[Ruby the Liberal]

18. Should note that it would not be surprising to have trial balloons that she didn't want it

because she knew it wasn't going to happen and wanted to get out in front of it. Now that there is a nominee, she can speak her mind, and trust you me, she did just that tonight.

:woohoo:

[gateley]

31. Thanks -- and thanks again for the link!! nt

[roxiejules]

39. From the transcript

"I want to be clear, the reason I cannot run this agency is because of those people. They've made it perfectly clear they will not let the agency go forward if I'm there, fine. I can step away from this."

- Elizabeth Warren

[tavalon]

80. That was a great interview

And Rachel and Elizabeth both rock!

[alcibiades_mystery]

26. Oh, the "fire in her eyes" told you

Okay then. We have confirmation.

[Ruby the Liberal]

27. Watch the video and decide for yourself.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/ns/msnbc_tv-rachel_maddow_show/#43803229

[roxiejules]

42. It appears that Rahm, Geithner and Daley didn't want her

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/18/republican-opposition-to-elizabeth-warren_n_902165.html


Obama, while often publicly praising Warren, was never committed to nominating her as head of the Bureau of Consumer Financial Protection.

The internal debate that led to President Barack Obama passing her over as head of the agency, commonly known as the CFPB, pitted one set of advisers -- longtime confidantes Valerie Jarrett and David Axelrod -- against the trio of Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner, former White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel, and current Chief of Staff William Daley.

Jarrett and Axelrod supported Warren, not least because of the impact she’d have on the Democratic Party’s liberal base, sources said. Geithner, Emanuel and Daley opposed the idea because of a variety of factors, both personal and political.

Emanuel took the temperature of the administration on Warren's nomination and reported back to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid that it was cool, according to Senate sources with knowledge of the call.

“We don’t like her either,” the then-White House chief of staff told the Nevada Democrat.

[Doctor_J]

47. Another clue as to the direction the prez wants to take the country

:puke:

silly me. when I worked and voted for him I thought I was voting against the Bushies.

[roxiejules]

56. You are right, yet it is hard to get a Dem to discuss it

It was eye opening to read about what was going on behind the scenes with the Warren nomination.

[Scottybeamer70]

19. rec.

Goooooooooooo Elizabeth!!!

[October]

20. I am a total fan of Elizabeth Warren!

Brilliant, articulate -- witty...and she holds her own in every interview.

[bvar22]

21. Are you SURE she said she wanted the job?

Because the Centrist Cover Story at DU is that she didn't want the job.
.
.
.
I wonder if there will be any apologies for the disinformation.



Who will STAND and FIGHT for THIS American Majority?
You will know them by their WORKS,
not by their excuses.

[Ruby the Liberal]

23. Based on several other posts, it seems a bunch of us heard the same thing

I have YT and Rachel's msnbc site open in other tabs watching for the video to be posted.

[Blue_In_AK]

28. I watched the interview,

and it sure seemed to me like she would have been thrilled to have the job but she knew the Republicans would never ever confirm her. In fact, they're unlikely to vote to confirm anyone.

[Ruby the Liberal]

29. Video online now

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/ns/msnbc_tv-rachel_maddow_show/#43803229

[chill_wind]

32. +100

She made it clear the Republican obstructionists were the impediment. Never once did she state that it was never her intention in the first place to take a permanent role. That was a perfect time and opportunity to clarify and confirm that and say "It was never my desire." It would have removed a lot of speculation. She didn't.

[WillyT]

69. Bwahahahahahaha !!!

Oh yeah, sure... any minute now.

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

Cue the tape of The Fonz trying to say "I'm sorry."

:evilgrin:

:bounce:

:hi:

[guruoo]

78. Barney Frank said she didn't want the appointment (link)

:shrug:

Elizabeth Warren Didn't Want Permanent Appointment To CFPB: Frank
First Posted: 09-16-10 04:06 PM | Updated: 09-16-10 04:15 PM

Elizabeth Warren made it clear to the White House while it was debating her nomination to the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau that she was not interested in a five-year term to run the agency. Barney Frank, a Warren ally, delivered that message to the White House, he told HuffPost in an interview Thursday.

"She always said she didn't want to be there as a permanent director. Some of the liberals are worried about it. It's almost an insult to Elizabeth. She wouldn't take this if there was the slightest impediment to her doing the job," he said.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/09/16/warren-didnt-want-permane_n_719932.html

[Ruby the Liberal]

25. VIDEO now online. Link:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/ns/msnbc_tv-rachel_maddow_show/#43803229

[slipslidingaway]

30. knr nt

[BNJMN]

33. Keep throwing rocks--->Hope she gets elected in MASSACHUSETTS Senate! N/T

[girl_interrupted]

35. "Republican Opposition To Elizabeth Warren Allows White House To Duck Uncomfortable Questions"

WASHINGTON -- "Thanks to united Republican opposition to Elizabeth Warren as the permanent head of the consumer protection agency she dreamed up and shepherded through Congress, the administration is largely able to avoid the uncomfortable discussion about just how much support she had within the White House."

Obama, while often publicly praising Warren, was never committed to nominating her as head of the Bureau of Consumer Financial Protection, people familiar with the internal decision-making process said. There were a variety of factors holding her up, from the administration's perception that she was prone to speaking her mind publicly -- even if her position contrasted with that of the administration’s -- to the intense opposition she generated from Democrats and Republicans in Congress, and from certain parts of the financial services industry.

The internal debate that led to President Barack Obama passing her over as head of the agency, commonly known as the CFPB, pitted one set of advisers -- longtime confidantes Valerie Jarrett and David Axelrod -- against the trio of Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner, former White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel, and current Chief of Staff William Daley.

Jarrett and Axelrod supported Warren, not least because of the impact she’d have on the Democratic Party’s liberal base, sources said. Geithner, Emanuel and Daley opposed the idea because of a variety of factors, both personal and political.

Ultimately, it was Obama’s call. Sources said an anecdote about a 2010 meeting provides clues to Obama’s thinking.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/18/republican-opposition-to-elizabeth-warren_n_902165.html


I remember when she criticized Obama's Credit Card "Reform" bill. She was right. Bernie Sanders had presented a much better bill that was actually fair to consumers & put a stop to usury.

Love Liz Warren.

Thanks for nothing President Obama.

[roxiejules]

40. Geithner, Emanuel and Daley opposed her?

That figures...


Remember when Greenspan, Summers and Rubin railroaded Brooksley Born (who was trying to regulate deriviatives)out of office?



http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x600885

[Dappleganger]

57. That is very telling...

and of course guess who the president chooses to listen to?

[roxiejules]

41. 'We don't like her either'....said Rahm

Last July, the night before a Senate vote on the administration-backed bill to reform financial regulation, Sen. Ben Nelson (D-Neb.) told reporters that he was still unsure how he’d vote and was concerned about who might be named to run the soon-to-be-created consumer unit.

Hearing the news, Emanuel took the temperature of the administration on Warren's nomination and reported back to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid that it was cool, according to Senate sources with knowledge of the call.

“We don’t like her either,” the then-White House chief of staff told the Nevada Democrat.

Ultimately, it was Obama’s call. Sources said an anecdote about a 2010 meeting provides clues to Obama’s thinking.

Last summer, during a White House meeting with first-term Senate Democrats, Sen. Bernie Sanders, an independent from Vermont, asked Obama whether he'd nominate Warren for the role.

Obama held up a half-full glass of water and told him: "That's the problem with you progressives. You see this as half-empty."

[ProfessionalLeftist]

36. She should run for the Senate - take Kennedy's place then in 2016

The Presidency.

[MrMickeysMom]

71. There is a "draft movement" for this!

Here: http://act.boldprogressives.org/survey/survey_warrentdraft_nl/?akid=4399.268401.IVCJsk&rd=1&source=e1-rest-sign&t=2

[Volaris]

37. I just watched the clip. My prediction is that

she is going to run for that Senate seat. And she will win it, because she knows how to fight. THAT is why she is hated. And I have the feeling she is one of the rare few who will WELCOME that hatred.

She is going to be the first female President of the United States, you mark my word.

[robdogbucky]

51. I'm with ya on this

as long as she doesn't get Wellstoned on the way.

[Lionessa]

44. She's great, but you show disrespect giving her a nickname she doesn't

seem to choose for herself. My daughter's name is Katherine and she's called everything from Kat and Katie to Cath and Cathy, but she just wants the respect of people respecting her actual name. Elizabeth Warren has never been reported by anyone that I've heard as "Liz" and your taking that leeway upon yourself is disrespectful in my opinion. Just a thought.

[Doctor_J]

50. What a bizarre intrusion on ths thread

:shrug:

[Lionessa]

63. Perhaps, but when I saw "liz," I just

thought how f'ing disrespectful! But as explained my daughter fights this all the time, so do Jonathon's, and Williams, and so many others. Just struck me that on the one hand trying to laud Elizabeth Warren, and on the other being entirely careless with her desire to be called Elizabeth, since not one talking head nor article nor nothing has been calling her "liz," indicating to me that it isn't what she want's to be called.

[Dappleganger]

58. lol wut?

[Le Taz Hot]

45. So, she DID want the job!

Post after post by the Cheer Squad INSISTING that she did not want the job when she clearly did. She was the logical choice. Now, if someone with a backbone would have just fought for her . . .

[Doctor_J]

48. Of course she did. I hope you're not standing behind the DLC propagandists

there is going to be a stampede of backpedaling today.

[bvar22]

52. There won't be any backpeddling.

They will simply ignore that they were dead fucking wrong
and spamming DU with baseless dis-information,
and pretend the whole thing never happened.

[Lorien]

67. Wash, rinse, repeat on the next Big Issue on which they are dead wrong

(and know it).

[roxiejules]

60. +1

n/t

[nobodyspecial]

59. Do the math

Would have never happened no matter how much backbone was involved.

I really hope she runs for Senate. I think she would win and be a great asset. And although she won't lead the agency, she certainly is not a woman who will be silenced -- thankfully.

[chill_wind]

61. I wonder what the math on Cordray is going to be?

Math is easy. Fightin predictable Republicans on it is hard.

[JCMach1]

64. Yes, she did... Would love to see Senator

and maybe someday President Warren.

She rocks!

[Firebrand Gary]

75. So I caught her interview yesterday, I got goosebumps! We desperately need Liz Warren out in front.

I think she could pull off a successfull Senate campaign against Brown.

[Dystopian]

77. KandR

She is awesome!


peace~

[Marr]

79. Where are the people who insisted over and over that she didn't want the job?

Where? Disappearing again?