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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 01:28 PM
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As Keith pointed out last night
There have been some comments made from the left side of the spectrum that were wrong.

But the difference is those comments were not a concerted effort by the Democratic Party and Left media to tarnish and brand Republicans as Un-American Commie Enemies of the State. The Republicans and Right media have used these words as a tool to incite violence.

I think there is enough evidence out there to prove this point.
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 01:33 PM
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1. We don't make maps with gun sights.
And we don't advocate using bullets over ballots at any time. We don't yell, 'Kill Him!' in our gatherings. We don't fucking bring guns to our rallies - more often than not, we get shit thrown at us by right wingers or punched when we are at our peaceful protests. You won't find racist verbiage or imagery on our blogs or rally signs. There is no comparison.
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 01:34 PM
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2. I am not making a comparison. That should be clear. nt
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 01:34 PM
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3. There is no comparison between using random over the top hyperbole
occasionally and knowingly using the rhetoric of assassination habitually.
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 01:35 PM
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4. Again, who is making a comparison. I was drawing a distinction. nt
Edited on Sun Jan-09-11 01:36 PM by boston bean
or maybe you were just agreeing with me!

sorry! ;-)
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 01:41 PM
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10. I was agreeing. Just before Keith taped his interview with Josh
they were twittering back and forth and I said to them that I hoped they could find the guts to avoid using "they both do it" as a rationale because it lets the real offenders off the hook.

If you look at the interview, there are two or three moments when Josh struggles to describe the situation and he just doesn't say anything and they move on. Neither of them, in that segment, said "they both do it".

And after watching that, I was struck by how saturated we are with that false equivalence -- which makes it possible for the right wing to engage in actual terrorism with barely a peep out of anyone in response.

It's a really destructive and enabling justification.
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 01:44 PM
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11. That is a very good point. It's the only time the Right wants bi-partisanship....
I do agree that the false equivalency is enabling the right to continue on.

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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 01:44 PM
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12. Precisely
:hi:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 01:54 PM
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14. Good morning, lady.
You know, I decided last night the the first sentence of a piece I'm working on is going to be "I fucking hate Ronald Reagan."

lol

:hi:
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 01:36 PM
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5. So far no Lefty has pulled out a gun and shot a GOP rep. See
the left likes to TALK (mostly about the TRUTH) and the right likes to KILL (abortion doctors and now a congresswoman). If those difference are cast aside, then we live in a not so free society.
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 01:37 PM
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7. I agree.
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 01:36 PM
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6. Whatever I have said about the traitorous, thieving, racist, lying, theocratic, bigoted
pieces of shit is exactly what I meant and was probably too kind.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 01:39 PM
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8. Yes and even if you said horrible things about said person
you don't have the compulsion to go out a KILL SOMEONE. I Think that is the difference the M$M is trying to cover-up so badly.
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Little Star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 01:41 PM
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9. Yes, the Republican Party (especially since the birth of Palin &
the tea parties)uses over the top, inciteful language to rally people. I know that the Democratic Party has on occasion used unfortunate language. The difference to me is the consistent and repetitious way the other side of the isle assaults their own supporters with this rhetoric.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 01:53 PM
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13. Ronald Reagan opened his presidential run in the town where 3 civil rights workers
were tortured and killed. He did it on purpose and he spoke in code to the audience.

It's a Republican tradition to rally hate.
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Little Star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 01:59 PM
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15. Yep, you are right! But it has..
become so much more direct and in your face since Palin & The Tea Parties don't you think?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 02:01 PM
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16. Sure. They encouraged people to take guns to political discussions.
That's grossly irresponsible, all by itself.

There was this kind of talk when President Kennedy was elected. I don't remember anything like it since then until now.
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