Five "democrats" voted for the draconian cut and cap measure. They are:

[ooglymoogly]

Dan Boren (OK-2)
Jim Cooper (D - TN).
Jim Matheson (D-Utah)
Mike McIntyre (D – NC)
Heath Shuler (D - NC|)

These are the kinds of "democrats" that need to be burned into our conscious and defeated.

These are the kinds of "democrats" that give folks pause to ask..."what is the difference between the two parties?"

These are the kinds of "democrats" we have to target.

[Richardo]

1. Given that roster of states, I'd say it's fortunate the Dems have those seats at all.

Primary them out - see how fast those seats flip to the GOP.

[avaistheone1]

3. If Dems like this vote with the GOP, there is not much value in them

sitting in their seats pretending to be Democrats. May as well try to get real Democrats in those positions.

[Richardo]

21. It's all ABOUT seat count.

Unless you LIKE having a GOP Speaker (and I'm not suggesting you do).

[ooglymoogly]

31. You might have a point in the Senate.

but the loss of five seats in the house does not make it any worse than it is, especially when those house seats are Dino's and vote pug anyway.

One has to choose the evil he supports carefully.

Sleeping with the devil for nothing but a charade, just does not make any sense and sells the Democratic party and its principals down the river.

[socialist_n_TN]

4. Wrong about Cooper in Nashville

I was surprised to see his name on there actually. But this town is pretty progressive. More progressive than Jimmy is.

[asjr]

16. Yes, I was very surprised to see Cooper's

name on this. I think he was my rep at one time.

[socialist_n_TN]

32. One of my contacts said his COS told him

(my contact) that he did it because he knew it wasn't going anywhere and he wanted to show the Republicans that he was willing to work with them. So, it was a symbolic vote. Yet when I asked him TO HIS FACE why he didn't vote for or support the People's Budget he said that it didn't have any chance of passing. IOW, he was willing to take a "symbolic" vote on a CRUEL budget, but he wasn't on one that was fairer AND BALANCED THE BUDGET FASTER.

What bullshit. We're going to have to see what redistricting brings, but ole Jim will probably have a primary challenger.

[KamaAina]

5. Two of them are from NC. NC voted for Obama.

Obviously you're not going to get a Jim McDermott elected there, but Shuler in particular is as useless on Capitol Hill as he was across town at RFK. :eyes:

[NoodleyAppendage]

12. Aside from Asheville, Western and Middle NC are VERY conservative areas.

Liberal regions are fairly limited in NC to Chapel Hill/Carrboro, Durham/Raleigh, and Asheville/Boone. Otherwise, you need to remember that NC used to be home to Jesse Helms and tends to be conservative, particularly in rural regions to the middle and west.

[KamaAina]

17. And who does Shuler represent?

Isn't it Asheville?

[WorseBeforeBetter]

19. The City of Asheville is liberal but...

the Asheville area (Buncombe, Madison, Haywood and Henderson counties) is full of conservatives and those "independent" mountain folk not loyal to any particular party. At least that's my take on it.

McIntyre was up against that lunatic Ilario Pantano in 2010, to give folks an idea of what's going on at the other end of the state.

[FBaggins]

30. It isn't important who he represents...

...it's who WILL he represent after the recent redistricting.

And while his existing district was not a blue stronghold... his new one will be particularly difficult to run in (as a D).

[WorseBeforeBetter]

18. Obama won NC by only about 14,000 votes.

Teabaggers are Koch-funded and loaded for bear headed into 2012.

[ooglymoogly]

6. What the hell is the diff. It gives the Dem's a bad name and makes

them synonymous with the pugs. They are just Trojan horses and a danger to the party. Better to take our lumps and have a real, true to our ideals, Democratic party.

[Dappleganger]

24. +1000

[queenjane]

7. The ones in NC likely will flip to the GOP

Haven't had too much time to check out the new Pug redistricting maps, but do know David Price and Brad Miller, both real Dems, have been put in the same district. Brad may consider moving to another district so he & David won't have to run against one another.

The Pug takeover of our legislature last November is going to destroy NC for generations.

[damntexdem]

22. I see nothing fortunate about it.

Is a viper in one's own bed better than one in a snake pit?

[southerncrone]

33. Yes. These seats could easily become RED.

I'm rather shocked at Jim Cooper, though a more conservative Dem, he usually shows some sense.
This is unfortunate.

[lonestarnot]

36. Given a choice between the imitation and the real thing, they will vote the real thing every time.

[mike_c]

39. where's the "fortunate" part if they vote against democratic ideals...?

If they vote like republicans, then they're effectively republicans.

[xchrom]

2. recommend

[atreides1]

8. The Last of the Blue Dogs

Boren isn't running for re-election...Shuler has a real fight on his hands with the Tea Baggers putting up a candidate to run against him...not sure who the other 3 are...but it's fair to say they are the last of the Blue Dogs that did so well in the last election...

[Scuba]

9. Grass roots efforts will primary them. C'mon Progressives!!!

[fredamae]

10. My Rep is a Blue Dog-I just called and

Thanked him for not being Stupid! :)

[Sportsguy]

11. Those Are Democrats?

Who knew?

[Ganja Ninja]

13. Yup. When Republican's say "but Democrats voted for it too" these are the culprits. n/t

[Freddie Stubbs]

14. Perhaps Dennis Kucinich should move to one of their districts and run there

He can show them what a 'real' Democrat is.

[elocs]

20. Dennis Kucinich will only go to a Liberal district where he is sure to win.

You know that is as true as I do.

[southerncrone]

35. That's a good thing. We NEED him up there for us!

!

[Kingofalldems]

25. Perhaps you should stop attacking Kucinich with the same post

over and over.

[Freddie Stubbs]

26. Mr. Kucinich has stated that he is considering moving out of Ohio to run for Congress in

another state. The OP seems to think that these Blue Dog Democrats need to be defeated. A Kucinich candidacy in one of these districts would be a win-win, unless you fall for the corporatist DLC neo-con Blue Dog conservadem DINO meme that only moderate Democrats can win in these districts.

[Kingofalldems]

27. The thread wasn't about Kucinich--and don't try to BS me

[Freddie Stubbs]

29. The OP specifically mentioned replacing five Blue Dog Democratic members of Congress

If you have some input as to who should replace them, please feel free to chime in. Or would you prefer that these Democrats be replaced by Republicans?

[Forkboy]

28. Not even a good diversion.

That would be like me bringing up your support for prison rape a couple years ago.

Perhaps you can show us what a "real" Democrat is.

[flamingdem]

15. cretins all nt

[Dappleganger]

23. I hope they rot in hell

as well as the stupid fucking voters who put them there!!

[Major Hogwash]

34. Why do they run as Democrats? Why don't they run as Assholes? The Asshole Party needs candidates too

Seriously, do any of those boneheads even have a clue as to what is going on in Washington??

[Blue Owl]

37. JUDAS x5

n/t

[AtomicKitten]

38. B-holes one and all.