Remember the time the White House said to ignore the rumors that they sold out on the public option?

[markpkessinger]

From AmericaBlog:

Thursday, July 21, 2011

Remember the time the White House said to ignore the rumors that they sold out on the public option?

by John Aravosis (DC) on 7/21/2011 03:09:00 PM

Obama White House's Dan Pfeiffer on rumors that they sold out the public option:

A rumor is making the rounds that the White House and Senator Reid are pursuing different strategies on the public option. Those rumors are absolutely false.

In his September 9th address to Congress, President Obama made clear that he supports the public option because it has the potential to play an essential role in holding insurance companies accountable through choice and competition. That continues to be the President's position.

We all know how that went.

Obama White House on the rumors that the President has sold out on the budget deal:

A White House spokesman called the claims from aides "not credible" -- the result of having a "3rd hand version of the facts."

Read entire article at: http://www.americablog.com/2011/07/remember-time-white-house-said-to.html

[Armstead]

1. I sure wish this fact wpuld sink in to tnose who are now saying..,Trust Obama without question

[rurallib]

2. remember it quite well

my senator, Tom Harkin, went out day after day saying the president was strong on the public option.
and then zip, the rug gets pulled out from under him.

[Brickbat]

3. No need to be hasty! Let's wait and see what crap will be set before us and called a feast!

[Cherchez la Femme]

25. And not complain until it's a done deal, signed & delivered!

THEN will be the right time to discuss it,

after it's already law!

:banghead:

[ProSense]

4. Obama

should have vetoed his own health care bill to prove that he was serious about the public option, right? Everyone would have been happy: no health care law.

When health care reform failed in the 1990s was it because Clinton secretly didn't want it?

Obama Singles Out Drug Companies for Savings

But what about the secret deal?

[markpkessinger]

5. I think you're missing the point...

... It's about the credibility of the White House whenever tells us to "pay no attention to those rumors."

[TheWraith]

7. As opposed to the rumor mongers who have repeatedly been proven either wrong or lying.

But hey, I'm sure the Republican-funded FireDogLake is one hundred percent trustworthy. :eyes:

[frylock]

13. the rumor mongers were dead fucking right about the public option..

seems the defenders of the faith got the bush tax cut extension wrong as well. but you were saying....?

[bvar22]

19. The "Rumor Mongers" were also dead fucking right about...

...Extending the Bush Tax Cuts,
and a number of other betrayals.

[frylock]

23. yep. the rumour mongers are well ahead of the curve..

it's almost funny to watch people try and rewrite history around here.

[_ed_]

15. Can you remind me what happened on the following:

-closing GITMO
-Public Option
-Drug importation
-Bush tax cuts

[slipslidingaway]

12. Could we save another 220 billion in addition to the 80 billion using VA prices...

This deal from 2009.

:shrug:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=8667526&mesg_id=8667647

"...Candidate Obama, citing a paper by Roger Hickey, Jeff Cruz, and Dean Baker of the Institute for America's Future, put the savings at $30 billion a year, which over a decade would be roughly twice the $156 billion savings envisioned by the energy and commerce committee. (Hickey, Cruz, and Baker proposed matching not Medicaid drug prices but those negotiated by the more straightforwardly socialist Veterans Administration.) By this reckoning, Tauzin swindled not $76 billion from President Obama but $220 billion. That's nearly half what the House health reform bill expects to raise with its proposed surtax on incomes above $350,000! ..."


BARACK OBAMA AND JOE BIDEN’S PLAN TO LOWER HEALTH CARE COSTS
AND ENSURE AFFORDABLE, ACCESSIBLE HEALTH COVERAGE FOR ALL

"...Allow Medicare to negotiate for cheaper drug prices. The 2003 Medicare Prescription Drug
Improvement and Modernization Act bans the government from negotiating down the prices of
prescription drugs, even though the Department of Veterans Affairs’ negotiation of prescription drug
prices with drug companies has garnered significant savings for taxpayers.32 Barack Obama and Joe
Biden will repeal the ban on direct negotiation with drug companies and use the resulting savings, which
could be as high as $30 billion,33 to further invest in improving health care coverage and quality..."


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=385&topic_id=420430&mesg_id=420457

From a speech in late 2008

Candidate Obama ...

"And we are tired of watching as year after year, candidates offer up detailed health care plans with great fanfare and promise only to see them crushed under the weight of Washington politics and drug and insurance lobbying once the campaign is over.

That is not who we are, that is not who we have to be, enough is enough, it time for us to change."


Obama's $80 Billion Deal with Pharma Is a Very Bad Deal for Us

By William Greider, The Nation. Posted August 8, 2009.

http://www.alternet.org/health/141856

"The White House has cut a deal with Big Pharma that smells like the same old rotten politics that candidate Obama regularly denounced.

So now we know why the president wants everyone to make nice in the healthcare debate. His White House has cut a deal with Big Pharma that smells like the same old rotten politics that candidate Obama regularly denounced and promised to end. The drug industry agrees to deliver $80 billion in future savings and the president promises the government will not use its awesome purchasing power to negotiate lower drug prices.

Wow. This is roughly the same deal that George W. Bush cut with the drug makers when he was legislating Medicare's new coverage of drug purchases. It is the same bargain that Democrats in Congress universally condemned as wasteful and corrupt. The deal does not smell any better now that a Democratic president is embracing it..."

[EOTE]

16. No, he should have been honest from the beginning.

And probably shouldn't have bullshitted the entire country trying to pretend that he intended to push forward with a public option. It was a lie, straight and simple. It was a sell out from the very beginning. Are you OK with that?

[slipslidingaway]

24. Crickets again on the Pharma deal nt

[Stinky The Clown]

6. "The Public Option" was bullshit cover for the dropped single payer option.

[Mimosa]

8. I remember it well

That's what ruined my trust.

But the song 'I Remember It Well' from GiGi is wonderful. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sISWPzEqHLQ

[myrna minx]

18. I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, but healthcare is when I jumped off of the

faith bandwagon. It was a really big burn.

[Gidney N Cloyd]

9. Someone needs to send this to "Big Ed" Shultz. He claimed Obama never

supported a public option on his show today.

[bvar22]

21. Video is FOREVER.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acc6Wn_BWlk

[Ruby the Liberal]

10. My memory is crystal clear on this.

He lost all capital with me on the 'trust me' level with that one.

[Mimosa]

11. Somebody should screenshot the OP White House link.

There will be people posting we had no reason to believe Obama would stand by the public option. :(

[Enrique]

14. "White House denies giving in on Bush tax cuts

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x4610751#4610762

"Axelrod emails:

There is not one bit of news here. I simply re-stated what POTUS and Robert have been saying. Our two strong principles are that we need to extend the tax cuts for the middle class, but we can't afford a permanent extension of the tax cuts for the wealthy.

And White House comm director Dan Pfeiffer adds:

The story is overwritten. Nothing has changed from what the President said last week. We believe we need to extend the middle class tax cuts, we cannot afford to borrow 700 billion to pay for extending the tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans, and we are open to compromise and are looking forward to talking to the Congressional leadership next week to discuss how to move forward. Full Stop, period, end of sentence."

[slipslidingaway]

17. kick nt

[democracy1st]

20. K & R liars

[Safetykitten]

22. But...but...he said, no, wait...you did not understand what he said.

[AllyCat]

26. Of course they wanted us to ignore them...they didn't want to make us angry until it was too late

I'm fed up with this whole group. There are a few that are good politicians and people. The rest of them can lose their jobs for all I care. I'd like to see a good primary challenger to Obama...this SS thing has to be putting people over the edge.