Has Obama Caved Yet?

[Jack_Dawson]

I keep reading conflicting reports. It seems that America haters Eric Cantor and James DeMint are on record as figuring he will - just don't know if it's happened yet and in my wildest dreams I hope Obama stares down these traitors until they blink. For love of country.

:beer:

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[dennis4868]

2. according to DU

it already happened...hahaha...even though the facts don't say that.

[slipslidingaway]

6. White House Says It Cut No Deal With Drug Makers -

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=439&topic_id=1540037&mesg_id=1540271

The past makes people skeptical.

[dennis4868]

19. right....

but they thereafter made an agreement with big pharma wherby the pharmaceutical industry agreed to dedicate $80 billion to lowering the price of medicines sold to seniors....http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/06/22/AR2009062200349.html

Are you saying any agreement with big Pharma is bad? WTH?

[slipslidingaway]

21. Wrong, look at the dates in the articles. Candidate Obama's HC plan called for ...

Medicare to negotiate drug prices.

When rumours began to surface that the 80 billion dollar deal also included the promise to not push for drug price negotiation the WH initially denied the speculation, only to find out later that the speculation was indeeed correct.

Which is more 300 billion or 80 billion - WTH?

Could we save another 220 billion in addition to the 80 billion using VA prices...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=8667526&mesg_id=8667647


BARACK OBAMA AND JOE BIDEN’S PLAN TO LOWER HEALTH CARE COSTS
AND ENSURE AFFORDABLE, ACCESSIBLE HEALTH COVERAGE FOR ALL

"...Allow Medicare to negotiate for cheaper drug prices. The 2003 Medicare Prescription Drug
Improvement and Modernization Act bans the government from negotiating down the prices of
prescription drugs, even though the Department of Veterans Affairs’ negotiation of prescription drug
prices with drug companies has garnered significant savings for taxpayers.32 Barack Obama and Joe
Biden will repeal the ban on direct negotiation with drug companies and use the resulting savings, which
could be as high as $30 billion,33 to further invest in improving health care coverage and quality..."


White House Affirms Deal on Drug Cost
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/06/health/policy/06insure.html?_r=5&hp

"Pressed by industry lobbyists, White House officials on Wednesday assured drug makers that the administration stood by a behind-the-scenes deal to block any Congressional effort to extract cost savings from them beyond an agreed-upon $80 billion.

Drug industry lobbyists reacted with alarm this week to a House health care overhaul measure that would allow the government to negotiate drug prices and demand additional rebates from drug manufacturers..."

[CleanGreenFuture]

3. On the public option? Or was it the bush tax cuts? Which cave are you talking about?

Oh, then I saw the body of your message.

Nevermind.

[Doctor Hurt]

5. The public option? I'm glad that shit failed

a net plus for Obama.

[riderinthestorm]

16. yeah, well, welcome to DU... enjoy your stay.

:puke:

[Critters2]

20. Yeah! Fuck the poor! Jerk.

:eyes:

[KittyWampus]

4. The Reactionary Screamers sure seem to thinks so. Though all they've got is shit stirring rumors &

their own hateful prejudice to go by.

[Creideiki]

7. I wish he'd cave to Democrats for a change

But a guy can hope, right?

[Jack_Dawson]

8. Well said.

:toast:

[polichick]

9. What a welcome change that would be!

[unkachuck]

10. "Has Obama Caved Yet?"

....he's working on it....it takes time and a lot of hard work to cave properly....

[Ruby the Liberal]

11. Have you seen this?

Whats your take on it, Jack?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1542869

[Jack_Dawson]

14. Oh Christ....Nooooooooo

Please say it ain't so.

The thing that Obama can't seem to figure out, is America respects fighters. Whether I agree or disagree, I at least respect the fact that you actually stand for something.

The more he caves, the more they laugh at him and make ridiculous demands. That they know he'll cave to.

:beer: :beer: :beer:

[Ruby the Liberal]

15. Sounds like your glass is half empty on that report as mine is.

:scared:

[upi402]

12. which cave?

I'm losing track already

[treestar]

13. So what are you saying?

We should allow Republicans to let us default on the debt?

[global1]

17. If Obama Does Cave On This ......

he better find a cave to hide in because he's going to be one lonely guy.

[mitchtv]

18. maybe you should change the "yet"

to "again"

[piratefish08]

22. too early to tell...... the 3rd Act of "Debt Ceiling Crisis - America Crumbles!" is about to start.

shhhhhhhh........... the lights are dimming..............