No, President Obama, "Tough choices" would be ending the wars and taxing your donor base

[n2doc]

Not screwing over the middle class and poor with medicare and social security cuts, wiping out government services and research with agency cuts, and rewarding the rich with an income tax rate cut.

This tough choices bullshit rhetoric makes me ill.

The American people know what "tough choices" really are.


http://www.newsdaily.com/stories/tre7646s6-us-usa-debt/
Obama vows "hard choices" on debt as Democrats fume
By Matt Spetalnick
and Thomas FerraroPosted 2011/07/22 at 1:12 pm EDT

WASHINGTON, July 22, 2011 (Reuters) — President Barack Obama insisted on Friday he was prepared to make "tough choices" for a sweeping deficit-reduction deal to avert a U.S. default, despite being warned by Democrats not to make too many concessions.

With the deadline to raise the debt ceiling now just 11 days away, Obama appealed for compromise by both parties as he and the top Republican in Congress, House of Representatives Speaker John Boehner, pursued a plan for up to $3 trillion in spending cuts over the next 10 years.

"I'm willing to sign a plan that includes tough choices I would not normally make, and there are a lot of Democrats and Republicans in Congress who I believe are willing to do the same thing," Obama said at a townhall-style meeting at the University of Maryland.

[alsame]

1. Kind of amazing how they

ignore the wars and tax cuts and just blame SS and Medicare, isn't it?

It reminds me of how Bush shifted the focus from Bin Laden to Saddam Hussein.

[dennis4868]

4. Ignore the wars?

Wars ending in Iraq and Afghanistan and this whole damn debate is because Obama wants to end tax cuts for the wealthy....WTF are you talking about.....I LOVE DU because you guys crack me up with all the hyperspeculation and just flat out making shit up...hahaha!

[whatchamacallit]

27. The more you post, the more your avatar becomes you. n/t

[dennis4868]

2. ummmm....

he is ending the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and wants to raise taxes on his bog donor base (corporations) and taking away those tax loopholes...Obama makes the tough choices no politician has wanted to have to make for years....we are lucky to have that man in the WH! :-)

[n2doc]

5. Please give me a date for the pullout in Afghanistan?

And for removing the last 50,000 'advisors' in Iraq? Please? Because all I have ever seen is, we have to stay there until (xxx) and then that date gets pulled back further. And then the amounts spent keep going up. And the number of countries we are bombing with drones and aircraft keeps going up. And so does the military and security budgets.

Are you aware that last month was the deadliest in Iraq since Obama became president? Some pullout!

[dennis4868]

7. it's already started....

my nephew just came home for good....what r u talking about?

[n2doc]

11. Good for you and your nephew

However, I sure as hell don't see any signs of a pullout down here in the south. Just as many troops heading out as usual. And there are no news reports saying any significant pullout is happening anytime soon. I don't consider 10K out of over 100K in Afpak a pullout.

[dennis4868]

18. it has started...

and that will be ramped up big time in the next month....this accordign to my nephew who was just there....

[TheKentuckian]

26. Replacing troops with mercs is not ending the war.

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[frylock]

23. i'm glad to hear that your nephew didn't get greased like those "advise and assist" troops are

[mike_c]

29. no one really wants a pullout....

What we want is to be out. The present "pull out of Afghanistan" is nothing more than a change in deployments. It's not over until it's over, and talk about a pull out is just smoke and mirrors. I don't give a rat's buttocks that the pull out "has already started." I'll be happy when it's OVER, when American troops are no longer occupying Iraq and Afghanistan, when they're no longer killing goat herders in Waziristan from dark little cubicles in the U.S.

As long as there are American troops in those countries, or as long as we bomb them from above, we remain involved in unnecessary and immoral wars of aggression. "Pulling out" is meaningless. It's just a convenient way to describe "still there."

[eilen]

32. If it is winding down, why are the budget requests going up? nt

[Rageneau]

3. tThe only way to make Obama act like a Democrat is for one to challenge him.

Obama (and we) NEEDS a primary opponent from the left. That's the only thing that will bring him back to where he belongs. The one thing NO politician can stomach is to be thrown out.

Y'hear that, Doctor Dean? Senator Sanders? Senator Franken? Congressman Kucinich? George Clooney?

[n2doc]

8. Dean so far sounds like he is in O's pocket

Sanders isn't a democrat. Franken won't do it, unfortunately. I do wish someone would but hold no hope that the electorate will go for them over the Icon. The general election is a different story.

[Lorien]

9. He'll only "act" like one during a campaign. If he's willing to screw us this badly the

year before an election, then how badly would he f*ck us over during a second term?

[adhd_what_huh]

17. Clooney.......really?

Please try to have some perspective.

[Lorien]

6. There is no "debt crisis"; there is only endless greed and cruelty. nt

[bullwinkle428]

10. All depends on who that choice is "tough" for.

K&R.

[aquamarina]

13. Ding, ding, ding. We have a winner.

[aquart]

14. But that would take real courage.

Because those bastards can afford the best assassins.

[LWolf]

15. Thank you. nt

[myrna minx]

16. K&R n/t

[blindpig]

20. He dances with them what brung him.

That wasn't those who voted for him, by the way.

Speaks volumes, doesn't it?

[The Big Vetolski]

33. It do. nt

[xchrom]

21. Recommend

[ladjf]

22. Yes, nt

[slay]

24. K&R

it's what needs to be done - what should be done - but it is very obvious Obama is NOT the man to do it. I really hope somebody primaries his ass.

[Ignis]

25. Oh, did you take those campaign slogans seriously?

Yeah, well ... don't feel bad, a lot of us believed them.

[mike_c]

28. standing up to the MIC and the wealthy....

Those are evidently too tough for both branches of government right now.

I am utterly disgusted by the sideshow circus that U.S. political leadership has become. Remember that old Tom Clancy novel-- I think it's Tom Clancy-- in which a terrorist attack or something kills virtually the entire congress and all the top white house executives, including the president, vice president, and most of the immediate line of replacement, necessitating what amounts to a total national do-over? Or am I confusing novels?

Anyway, a national do-over is the only hope for significant change now. One big meteor, or one small asteroid would do the trick. Or how about a 100 percent fatal disease that is transmitted by hot air and self importance?

[Nothing Without Hope]

30. YES! Well said. K & R n/t

[Poll_Blind]

31. Thank you.

:thumbsup:

PB