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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 05:18 PM
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Cenk Uygur And The Ethos Of Corporate-Owned Media - By Glenn Grennwald/Salon
Cenk Uygur and the ethos of corporate-owned media
BY GLENN GREENWALD - Salon
THURSDAY, JUL 21, 2011 09:22 ET

<snip>

Before being named six months ago as interim host of MSNBC's 6:00 p.m. program, Cenk Uygur blogged at liberal sites, hosted a popular Internet and radio show aimed at a young audience (The Young Turks), and had a regular segment on Dylan Ratigan's MSNBC show called "The Daily Rant." As one might expect, his style was combative, irreverent, and even at times angry, and he was often highly critical of both political parties and President Obama (though his anger at Democrats was typically due to what he perceived as excessive capitulation to the GOP). Last night, despite what The New York Times called "solid" (but not "stand-out") ratings, it was announced that MSNBC was replacing Uygur with Rev. Al Sharpton; Uygur -- in a 17-minute YouTube segment on his Young Turks show (posted below) -- then announced that he had rejected MSNBC's apparently lucrative offer to stay on in various other roles and explained what happened and why.

Although the NYT somewhat sensationalistically hyped the innuendo that the White House had complained about Uygur to MSNBC, there's no evidence that that's true; for multiple reasons, I seriously doubt that's true and I don't think Uygur is claiming there is evidence for it (though it's hardly unheard of for White Houses in general, and this one in particular, to complain to networks about criticisms of the President). Moreover, there are obvious factors that would cause MSNBC to make this move that have nothing to do with Uygur, including the growing criticisms the network faced over its blatant lack of diversity in its prime-time line-up and the fact that Sharpton is a highly recognizable celebrity -- a "star" in TV parlance -- who can single-handedly generate substantial media attention (unlike Uygur, Sharpton has also been a vocal and steadfast defender of President Obama from critics such as Cornel West). Nonetheless, there are revealing aspects to Uygur's removal worth examining.

As The New York Times notes, "MSNBC is home to many hosts who criticize President Obama and other Democrats from a progressive point of view, but at times Mr. Uygur could be especially harsh." Uygur added: "I am by far the hardest on the Obama administration" at the network (though, as Uygur subsequently noted, MSNBC's afternoon host Ratigan is likely as hard on Obama, but prime-time shows are more visible). But it isn't the quantity or even intensity of his criticism that distinguished him, but rather the style in which he expressed it.

Uygur often refused to treat members of the political and media establishment with deference and respect. He didn't politely imply with disguised subtleties when he thought a politician or media figure was lying or corrupt, but instead said it outright. In interviews, he was sometimes unusually aggressive with leading Washington figures, subjecting them to civil though hostile treatment to which they were plainly unaccustomed. As Uygur put it in explaining last night why he rejected MSNBC's offer to stay on:


I said on the air that most politicians are corrupt. And I remember, my guest was like: "What - how can you say that? These are honorable gentlemen" I am not going to do a show where I pretend that most of the politicians in Washington are honorable gentlemen. Hell no.


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Much More: http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2011/07/21/uygur/index.html

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CherylK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 05:59 PM
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1. K & R!!!
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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 06:07 PM
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2. Good riddance.
The guy had absolutely nothing positive to bring to the table.

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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 06:19 PM
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4. Well... The Truth Isn't Always Positive...
Sometimes the truth hurts, and is necessary to hear.

:shrug:
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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 08:11 PM
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10. lol
The arrogance in this place is unreal. Apparently the only "truth" around here is anything that discourages votes for Democrats. It's all the rage at the new DU.

It's amazing how many will glom onto an idol who presents the "truth" under the guise of being a "former" repig.

Whatever...

If you all get your way, then karma is sure to bite at least half your asses off.

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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 08:20 PM
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11. And Yet... By YOUR Theory... We Should All Lock Arms In Unison...
We should put all of our blood, sweat, and tears, into Obama's re-election, NO MATTER WHAT HE DOES.

Sorry... I do not work for him... I may, or may not choose to support him, but I do not work for him.

He works for me, for you, and for the American people... and if we feel he has not lived up to our standards... at least a simple majority of us can fire him, or any other politician.

It's right there in the Constitution.

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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 08:28 PM
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13. Only to be outdone by your arrogance. Karma already bit us on the ass. We voted for this failure.
And you're complicit for pushing this country to the right by calling his policies acceptable.
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Remember Me Donating Member (730 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 06:24 PM
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5. On the contrary, I think Cenk is the best
I like Rachel as well, but she's more cerebral. Again and again, Cenk has articulated exactly what I'm thinking and feeling. More than any other host -- more even than Olbermann, Schultz or Maddow.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 06:39 PM
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6. + 1,000,000,000... What You Said !!!
EXACTLY !!!

:applause::applause::applause:

:yourock:

:hi:

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 08:28 PM
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 08:31 PM
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16. Dude... This Board Is Filled With...
um... people with opposing opinions.

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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 08:33 PM
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17. SO first checkbox it isn't even funny.
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 06:16 PM
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3. k and r
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MedfordTim Donating Member (254 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 06:56 PM
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7. Wait....what?
"... including the growing criticisms the network faced over its blatant lack of diversity in its prime-time line-up..."

So, one of the reasons Cenk was let go is because of the hordes of Turkish (or other "mid-east types") representation in the media? The quota is full?

Inigo Montoya wants a word with Glenn about the meaning of "diverse"...
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 07:48 PM
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8. But Tim, it's not like Limbaugh, Coulter and others constantly mocked Cenk's 'non-American' name...
Edited on Fri Jul-22-11 07:50 PM by ihavenobias
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 07:51 PM
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9. Dude...
:yourock:

:bounce:

:hi:
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 08:24 PM
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12. This is an excellent column, I believe this half sentence along with Moyers' insights sums it up.


'Uygur explained that, several months ago, he was summoned to a meeting with MSNBC boss Phil Griffin and told that while it is fun and enjoyable to be an "outsider," that is not what MSNBC is for. Instead, Griffin told him, MSNBC is "part of the establishment," and Uygur must conduct himself in accordance with that reality. It's perfectly fine in establishment discourse to express contempt for one of the two political parties. It's equally fine to periodically criticize your own. But what is most assuredly not fine -- particularly in a high-profile nighttime spot and without having a real power base that comes from mammoth ratings -- is to be aggressively adversarial to the political establishment itself and the financial interests that fund, own and control that political system. That is what Uygur was, and while there's no evidence that this was the primary cause of his removal, it was clearly a serious source of dissatisfaction with the station's executives, including MSNBC's chief."




Insofar as the corporate media is concerned the "financial interests" trump the peoples' interests, and it really makes no difference whether this is pertaining to the blatant sock-puppet FOX "News" Network, the more subtle somewhat liberal/progressive leaning MSNBC or for that matter the other networks as well.

The corporate side or point of view gets to hammer it heavy while the people side gets told to tone it down.

This is why corporate supremacy has been and is increasingly taking hold in the U.S. and this is why we have a morphing, growing 21st century form of slavery with the for profit prison industry, while mega-corporations gain ever greater control over our "We the People's" Government.

Thanks for the thread, WillyT.

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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 08:30 PM
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15. No... Thank YOU Uncle Joe !!!
:yourock:

:bounce:

:hi:
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