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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 07:01 PM
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The Flag, flying in the dark, rain, snow, etc on a house always reminds me there is a person
Edited on Sun Jan-09-11 07:02 PM by 2Design
who disrespects the flag and is most likely a right winger who thinks they are a patriot while treating the flag disgustingly. It is a constant reminder of the disease and sickness in our society and the ignorance. Those who are on medicare protesting government health care are another face of that. News people and the right refusing to listen that their threats and signs inflame others to do violence is another face of that.

It is hard to stomach Palin's America when it is so sick and detrimental to the health of democracy. The party of NO is another face of that sickness. They say NO to everything that is good for the people. They are part of the problem.

To have people continue to try to say it is both sides - is sickening because it is not. It dismisses the harm that the right has done and continues to do to this democracy. The corporations are part of the problem too. The high pensions of public employees at the top and the congress salaries are part of the problem.

When I see their flags in the dark as I drive home or out every day in tatters, they remind me they are a disease.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 07:02 PM
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1. i keep my flag up 24/7.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 07:08 PM
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2. I'm old school too... taught that was disrespectful...
But someone told me the "rules" had changed in recent years. Can anyone confirm?
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 09:10 PM
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15. It may be flown at night if illuminated /nt
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northoftheborder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 07:09 PM
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3. Respect for the flag
We were taught in school that the U. S. flag should never be flying at night (unless lit), in the rain or other elements such as ice and snow, should never be allowed to touch the ground, be folded properly when not being used, should not be flown if it is tattered or faded, and should not be used as clothing. Also, the only appropriate way to dispose of the flag when worn out, is to burn it. Every school had a flag, and only the best behaved students were allowed the honor of raising and lowering the flag every day.

I don't think anyone honors those customs any more. It especially bothers me to see the flag worn as clothing.

Guess I'm a fuddy duddy.
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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 07:15 PM
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4. Yes clothing 2 I hate them flying on cars especially dealerships
they took the flag and commercialized it after 911 - same disrespect as those who say there is a Real America
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Still Blue in PDX Donating Member (633 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 09:00 PM
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14. That would make me a fuddy duddy as well, as those are the "rules" as I learned them.
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 09:13 PM
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16. I find the "flag as clothing" thing offensive

The phrase "to wrap oneself in the flag" is pejorative for a reason, and I'm amazed there are people who just don't get it.
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lunasun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 09:41 PM
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18. Only when hippies did it was wearing the flag clothes wrong
''Real Americans'' have their own set of rules havent you noticed????
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 09:18 PM
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17. Back in "our day" most boys & girls were in Scouting & flag respect was taught
Edited on Sun Jan-09-11 09:18 PM by SoCalDem
and part of every meeting, so we all learned it..

That was before all the new activities for kids that are around today

On scout day at school most kids wore their uniforms to school, and some troops met in the school basement or at a fellow student's house we walked past on our way home.

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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 07:15 PM
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5. If you want to fly the flag you shouldn't be so lazy
that you leave it up continually, that is so disrespectful.
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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 07:19 PM
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6. neighbor next to me takes it in every night and if it rains - treats it with respect
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sailor65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 07:25 PM
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10. My flag stays up 24/7
Because I actually know what is respectful and what isn't. I fly an all-weather flag, and it is lit at night.

Try actually reading the flag code. Or if need be, have one of your kids read it to you.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 07:28 PM
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12. Mine does, too.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 07:22 PM
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7. Flag idolatry is a uniquely American--and
uniquely stupid--tradition.

Jesus, it's a piece of cloth. In the British Navy they use their old Union Jacks for polishing the brass.
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Last_Stand Donating Member (247 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 07:27 PM
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11. This. n/t
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sailor65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 07:22 PM
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8. Hardly anyone knows there is a flag code anymore,
much less reads it.

Flags are permitted in inclement weather under the code, provided an "All-Weather" flag is used.

But at least you got the dark part right.
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handmade34 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 07:24 PM
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9. I think flag etiquette is important
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 07:59 PM
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13. I have several die-hard Democrat friends in CA who fly their flags 24/7. They know the rules for
flying flags but they have their own agenda.

I agree with them, If it's legal to burn the flag then it's legal to fly it 24/7.

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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 09:48 PM
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19. At UC Berkeley the flag is raised every morning
One of the people who take care of the grounds raises it. I assume someone else takes it down in the evening.
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